Why the stigma on local militias?

[TurboTrout]

I just never got this, I know people are dumb and many take the word of the state or TV as the word of god however

Join the local volly FD: great, thanks for giving back

Join the local volly EMS: great to give back with that education in health

Volunteer at the local VFW: good you’re helping vets

Kid joins ROTC: it’ll make a fine young man of him!

Talk about starting or joining a militia: oh my lawrd!!!! Someone call the fags at the FBI!!!


I don’t get it, I mean the founding fathers spoke highly of the militia, they serve a good purpose, why has the state and TV tried to vilify that arena of civic duty?

 

[Milf Dots]

Americans should deport Democrats and RINOs. That is all.

 

[TexPatriot]

Because well armed militias are what tyrannical governments fear most, as was the founders intent.

 

[hlee]

‘A militia’ has a different meaning than ‘the militia.’ The militia is the collective population of fighting-age men (its 2022 so we’ll add in wiminz, boy-girls, girl-boys, and all the other genders too- just to be inclusive) within a given citizenry. A militia is an unsanctioned paramilitary organization; rightfully or not associated with vigilantism/nationalism/xenofobism/ and all the other -isms.

 

[HeavyAssault]

Cause those that are part of the Federal Militia know the real answer.

For reference:

Definition of militia​

1a: a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
b: a body of citizens organized for military service
2: the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service
3: a private group of armed individuals that operates as a paramilitary force and is typically motivated by a political or religious ideology specifically : such a group that aims to defend individual rights against government authority that is perceived as oppressive

 

[muzzleloader]

Alphabet bois and the lame stream media linked any and ALL militias to Oklahoma City and white supremacy and low IQ consumers of garbage data internalized it and after a few years in the liberal echo chamber it’s fact or settled science or some shit.

 

[TurboTrout]

Cause those that are part of the Federal Militia know the real answer.

For reference:

Definition of militia​

1a: a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
b: a body of citizens organized for military service
2: the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service
3: a private group of armed individuals that operates as a paramilitary force and is typically motivated by a political or religious ideology specifically : such a group that aims to defend individual rights against government authority that is perceived as oppressive

How old is that definition? Like how the definition of “anti vax” and “fascist” have been changed recently


Seems 3 is the most valid, but the other ones don’t seem to fit the founders era of what a militia actually is

 

[Milf Dots]

Governments, and their jackboot thugs, want a monopoly on violence and no domestic opposition against their glowies.

 

[wade2big]

Government only wants it’s own brainwashed fools to have guns and congregate in numbers for obvious reasons. Simple as that. Blows my mind that otherwise decent men carry guns and otherwise empower corrupt governments that are at war with the people that it’s supposed to serve.

The propaganda that government uses to vilify militias is no different than the propaganda used to prop up and give fake prestige to their own foot soldiers. There is no honor in working for and empowering the criminal organization we call gov’t. Both examples are equal deceptions.

 

[Milf Dots]

Cause those that are part of the Federal Militia know the real answer.

For reference:

Definition of militia​

1a: a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
b: a body of citizens organized for military service
2: the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service
3: a private group of armed individuals that operates as a paramilitary force and is typically motivated by a political or religious ideology specifically : such a group that aims to defend individual rights against government authority that is perceived as oppressive

Almost all publishers of definitions- Merriam Webster, Randomhouse, Oxford, are left wingers.

 

[Milf Dots]

Cause those that are part of the Federal Militia know the real answer.

For reference:

Definition of militia​

1a: a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
b: a body of citizens organized for military service
2: the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service
3: a private group of armed individuals that operates as a paramilitary force and is typically motivated by a political or religious ideology specifically : such a group that aims to defend individual rights against government authority that is perceived as oppressive

Here in our American Republic, WE citizens are the Militia envisioned and enshrined by the Founding Fathers.

 

[FatBoy]

The CMP was founded to train the citizenry to shoot current style military weapons (and later vintage rifles for sport) to 600 yards and allow said citizens in good standing to purchase inexpensive government turn in rifles and ammunition. It was founded to keep the citizens armed and capable if called to service hear or abroad.

Now, we’ll, now it’s more of a money making operation but like most things, we had some good programs to actually help attain what the founders intended.

The issue isn’t the definition, or the government or the media. The issue is that our populous is willfully fat, lazy and stupid. More concerned with reality Tv than saving the republic that has handed them more than any other in recorded history.

 

[mewillis]

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.
George Mason

 

[UKDslayer]

The issue isn’t the definition, or the government or the media. The issue is that our populous is willfully fat, lazy and stupid. More concerned with reality Tv than saving the republic that has handed them more than any other in recorded history.

Think that's changing. Even lazy fatties are waking up. There aren't militias openly organizing because they are overtly stigmatized and vilified by our federal government, and probably state governments as well.

 

[W54/XM-388]

The problem is that "militia" as a description has been taken over by private groups of people who like to dress up and parade around with weapons and make bold statements about how one day they are going to essentially become the new even more brutal oppressors and "make everyone do what they say".

Many of those simply have great plans and delusions to become the local brutal warlords and use violence, and threats to intimidate citizens the moment the bigger gang of government paid folks is out of the way.

Originally in the days before a large standing army or large police oppression force, the "militia" was essentially every able-bodied man. Something bad went down, all the local male citizens showed up with their guns ready to help protect the common good. Usually under the direction of the current already established government or local military leadership. That was the "militia". Many states had this organized in the early days so if the call up was done, people already had an idea where to report to and what the ranks were.

It is a world away from all these "militias" that you see running around besmirching the term. Many of whom you would actually wind up having to fight against and wipe out in the event of actual trouble, in order to protect your family and local community.

You think the government and police are bad?

Wait until they are gone suddenly, and all these "militias" aka private warlord groups start deciding to enslave the population.

As at least one member here admitted, their traveling group are going to be happy to kill and take what they want if people don't give it to them.

That's what's going to happen with many of these "militia" groups if central government vanishes. They will start going around looting, killing, taking what they want and enslaving and terrorizing the citizens.

So given that the term has been hijacked by the opposite of what it should be, it would be wise to avoid using that to describe yourself or your friends.
Kind of like you may like adorning your house with the ancient symbol of harmony still widely used by the Buddhists and others in the east, but since a group of very bad socialist types gave a similar looking symbol a very bad name, you probably best avoid it unless you want to have to endlessly explain the differences.

 

[hlee]

The problem is that "militia" as a description has been taken over by private groups of people who like to dress up and parade around with weapons and make bold statements about how one day they are going to essentially become the new even more brutal oppressors and "make everyone do what they say".

Many of those simply have great plans and delusions to become the local brutal warlords and use violence, and threats to intimidate citizens the moment the bigger gang of government paid folks is out of the way.

Originally in the days before a large standing army or large police oppression force, the "militia" was essentially every able-bodied man. Something bad went down, all the local male citizens showed up with their guns ready to help protect the common good. Usually under the direction of the current already established government or local military leadership. That was the "militia". Many states had this organized in the early days so if the call up was done, people already had an idea where to report to and what the ranks were.

It is a world away from all these "militias" that you see running around besmirching the term. Many of whom you would actually wind up having to fight against and wipe out in the event of actual trouble, in order to protect your family and local community.

You think the government and police are bad?

Wait until they are gone suddenly, and all these "militias" aka private warlord groups start deciding to enslave the population.

As at least one member here admitted, their traveling group are going to be happy to kill and take what they want if people don't give it to them.

That's what's going to happen with many of these "militia" groups if central government vanishes. They will start going around looting, killing, taking what they want and enslaving and terrorizing the citizens.

So given that the term has been hijacked by the opposite of what it should be, it would be wise to avoid using that to describe yourself or your friends.
Kind of like you may like adorning your house with the ancient symbol of harmony still widely used by the Buddhists and others in the east, but since a group of very bad socialist types gave a similar looking symbol a very bad name, you probably best avoid it unless you want to have to endlessly explain the differences.

So, a gang who’s colors are FDE and OD, with coyote accents…

 

[TexPatriot]

The problem is that "militia" as a description has been taken over by private groups of people who like to dress up and parade around with weapons and make bold statements about how one day they are going to essentially become the new even more brutal oppressors and "make everyone do what they say".

Many of those simply have great plans and delusions to become the local brutal warlords and use violence, and threats to intimidate citizens the moment the bigger gang of government paid folks is out of the way.

Originally in the days before a large standing army or large police oppression force, the "militia" was essentially every able-bodied man. Something bad went down, all the local male citizens showed up with their guns ready to help protect the common good. Usually under the direction of the current already established government or local military leadership. That was the "militia". Many states had this organized in the early days so if the call up was done, people already had an idea where to report to and what the ranks were.

It is a world away from all these "militias" that you see running around besmirching the term. Many of whom you would actually wind up having to fight against and wipe out in the event of actual trouble, in order to protect your family and local community.

You think the government and police are bad?

Wait until they are gone suddenly, and all these "militias" aka private warlord groups start deciding to enslave the population.

As at least one member here admitted, their traveling group are going to be happy to kill and take what they want if people don't give it to them.

That's what's going to happen with many of these "militia" groups if central government vanishes. They will start going around looting, killing, taking what they want and enslaving and terrorizing the citizens.

So given that the term has been hijacked by the opposite of what it should be, it would be wise to avoid using that to describe yourself or your friends.
Kind of like you may like adorning your house with the ancient symbol of harmony still widely used by the Buddhists and others in the east, but since a group of very bad socialist types gave a similar looking symbol a very bad name, you probably best avoid it unless you want to have to endlessly explain the differences.

Until the demographics change where I live, I don't think we will suffer warlords anytime soon.

I would rather trust my local militias, made up of fellow God fearing, Trump voting, volunteer firefighting, 'white supremacists' that pull over and help you fix a flat and go into the honor system when a red light malfunctions, than the government and their police.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Until the demographics change where I live, I don't think we will suffer warlords anytime soon.

I would rather trust my local militias, made up of fellow God fearing, Trump voting, volunteer firefighting, 'white supremacists' that pull over and help you fix a flat and go into the honor system when a red light malfunctions, than the government and their police.

There will be good ones and bad ones.

The good ones will be very useful and a service to the local communities and help protect everyone.

The bad ones will be the opposite.

In my area there is going to probably be 3 or 4 different competing sides if things go down and it's going to be a total mess that I hope to be able to stay out of the way of.

 

[TurboTrout]

I’d trust the average militia over average PD

 

[Hobo Hilton]

Obviously, you are speaking to the wrong people...
Extend the timeline and your Milita will get some "Thank You's"....
Spend more time with "Like Minded Individuals".... Less time with the Koolaid drinkers.
Don't start a Milita, just find the one that has been established a long time....

EDIT: I've thought on this for 24 hours and something else comes to mind. In the OP there is a listing of organizations in the public eye. A man / woman involved in that many organizations and who brags about his / her involvement is a security risk. Any organization with proper OPSEC will seek out the "Gray Man"...... Go take a class, pay attention to the people... Some ideas below

Max Velocity Tactical

maxvelocitytactical.com

brushbeater.wordpress.com

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www.patreon.com

 

[pmclaine]

Oldest organized militia in the country…..

National Lancers – National Lancers

nationallancers.org

 

[TurboTrout]

Oldest organized militia in the country…..

National Lancers – National Lancers

nationallancers.org

A bunch of fudds with horses… sigh

No

 

[pmclaine]

A bunch of fudds with horses… sigh

no

Actually.

What do you think the militia would be?

Sounds to me you seek LARPs

 

[TurboTrout]

Actually.

What do you think the militia would be?

Sounds to me you seek LARPs

A well trained group of locals with proper weapons.

If/when the regime goes full retard it’s going to be more than geriatrics with ponies that will be required

 

[pmclaine]

I’ll take a geriatric that knows medicine, maybe a guy with a beer gut that is genius with engines, perhaps the nerd that can make a radio from a coke can.

 

[TurboTrout]

I’ll take a geriatric that knows medicine, maybe a guy with a beer gut that is genius with engines, perhaps the nerd that can make a radio from a come can.

Check his links, those old statist would rat you out to the regime right quick, bunch of geriatric statists playing my little pony

They’d probably outlaw ARs at a appleseed

 

[pmclaine]

I was good friends with the former leader.

Guadalcanal Marine, died during the lockdown at 99, hardcore Patriot.

His nephew runs it now.

His niece is a member.

All have had to qualify with M-16 and they are supported by big Army.

Kondritiuk is a general in the guard.

Sure the 19th century Polish uniforms may be pageantry but those dudes playing Paul Revere do more to make young kids think about service and sacrifice than many that call themselves the militia.

You trying to attract glowies with this thread?

 

[TurboTrout]

I was good friends with the former leader.

Guadalcanal Marine, died during the lockdown at 99, hardcore Patriot.

His nephew runs it now.

His niece is a member.

All have had to qualify with M-16 and they are supported by big Army.

Kondritiuk is a general in the guard.

Sure the 19th century Polish uniforms may be pageantry but those dudes playing Paul Revere do more to make young kids think about service and sacrifice than many that call themselves the militia.

You trying to attract glowies with this thread?

Supported by big army?

Do you understand what the militia are for?

Big predatory gov is what the militia are sposed to protect against

You’re from MA, so you worship big gov eh?


It’s sad how the birth of this great nation will end up its death

 

[pmclaine]

Supported by big army?

Do you understand what the militia are for?

Big predatory gov is what the militia are sposed to protect against

You’re from MA, so you worship big gov eh?


It’s sad how the birth of this great nation will end up its death

They get access to the latest gear.

And no the militia is supposed to be our national defense in time of need , be that need foreign or domestic.

Washington was the one that argued most eloquently for a standing Army.

When told it’s size was to be limited to 5000 he said to wit “fine as long as any enemy was limited to 3000”

We would get more bang for our buck taking back the schools than creating militias.

Sadly timeline right now favors militias.

 

[TurboTrout]

They get access to the latest gear.

And no the militia is supposed to be our national defense in time of need , be that need foreign or domestic.

Washington was the one that argued most eloquently for a standing Army.

When told it’s size was to be limited to 5000 he said to wit “fine as long as any enemy was limited to 3000”

We would get more bang for our buck taking back the schools than creating militias.

Sadly timeline right now favors militias.

Militia is a defense against DC

 

[pmclaine]

Militia is a defense against DC

Militia is defense of the Constitution.

Enemies of it foreign and domestic.

Each of us is the militia.

If you argue for organized militia you gut the second amendment.

 

[TurboTrout]

Militia is defense of the Constitution.

Enemies of it foreign and domestic.

Each of us is the militia.

If you argue for organized militia you gut the second amendment.

I agree

 

[FatBoy]

Think that's changing. Even lazy fatties are waking up. There aren't militias openly organizing because they are overtly stigmatized and vilified by our federal government, and probably state governments as well.

I think that’s right but I see SO many younger people who get 100% of their info from tic tok, etc. these are professionals who work at well paid jobs but they just drank the cool aide young and getting them to open their eyes is seemingly impossible. The left has done a wonderful job of being fun and engaging with their propaganda, even though their crazies come out in force when their status quo is threatened. For whatever reason that shit is dismissed or somehow validated. (I do encourage peaceful protest)

And since .gov and the compliant media is who is defining the language, if me and 5-6 of my buddies trained together and had a plan to defend each other’s families and homes in the event of a natural disaster or mass civil unrest we would likely be labeled a militia or extremist group simply because we are armed, have commo (for now) and most of my friends happen to be white.

Ultimately, IMO, I think it’s up to us as individuals to make the choices that we feel are going to directly, positively impact our families, communities and country. People will disagree with methods, especially those who put faith in government instead of themselves and their brothers and sisters, but that’s Ok. As long as we are free make our best lives I’m ok with that.


Edit: for the guys who talk shit about horses, has this current oil shortage taught us nothing about contingency planning? I wish I had the space for a few horses.

 

[TexPatriot]

Think that's changing. Even lazy fatties are waking up. There aren't militias openly organizing because they are overtly stigmatized and vilified by our federal government, and probably state governments as well.

Yup. Thats the reason I quit watching Yellowstone, Hollywood's direct attack on militias, stigmatizing them as child kidnapping zombies armed with NV, thermals, body armor, assault rifles and flying the Gadsden Flag. They covered it all, what they're afraid of.

Fuck Kevin Costner, government dicksucker.

 

[TurboTrout]

I think that’s right but I see SO many younger people who get 100% of their info from tic tok, etc. these are professionals who work at well paid jobs but they just drank the cool aide young and getting them to open their eyes is seemingly impossible. The left has done a wonderful job of being fun and engaging with their propaganda, even though their crazies come out in force when their status quo is threatened. For whatever reason that shit is dismissed or somehow validated. (I do encourage peaceful protest)

And since .gov and the compliant media is who is defining the language, if me and 5-6 of my buddies trained together and had a plan to defend each other’s families and homes in the event of a natural disaster or mass civil unrest we would likely be labeled a militia or extremist group simply because we are armed, have commo (for now) and most of my friends happen to be white.

Ultimately, IMO, I think it’s up to us as individuals to make the choices that we feel are going to directly, positively impact our families, communities and country. People will disagree with methods, especially those who put faith in government instead of themselves and their brothers and sisters, but that’s Ok. As long as we are free make our best lives I’m ok with that.


Edit: for the guys who talk shit about horses, has this current oil shortage taught us nothing about contingency planning? I wish I had the space for a few horses.

I got no issue with horses, with some more land and time I wouldn’t mind having a few.

However that token gov approved militia, it’s more a honor guard for the state, I mean they just play with horses, they don’t train for anything useful, no first aid, no marksmanship, disaster relief, etc, just prancing their ponies, which is cool but don’t go calling yourself a militia

 

[TurboTrout]

Yup. Thats the reason I quit watching Yellowstone, Hollywood's direct attack on militias, stigmatizing them as child kidnapping zombies armed with NV, thermals, body armor, assault rifles and flying the Gadsden Flag. They covered it all, what they're afraid of.

Fuck Kevin Costner, government dicksucker.

If I had a 10yr old daughter, I’d feel more relaxed for her to spend a weekend doing outdoors stuff with a militia vs spending the weekend unsupervised with biden and hunter.

 

[Haney]

Yup. Thats the reason I quit watching Yellowstone, Hollywood's direct attack on militias, stigmatizing them as child kidnapping zombies armed with NV, thermals, body armor, assault rifles and flying the Gadsden Flag. They covered it all, what they're afraid of.

Fuck Kevin Costner, government dicksucker.

Haha More realistic than the shit you produce here . I bet your mom took your remote away and you are just pissed because of that .

 

[Haney]

 

[TurboTrout]

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One of the reasons I fully support abortion within the first 15wks or so. Encouraging the idiots to make more idiots isn’t a winning move.

It’s often not the smart women who can’t seem to manage their own crotch.

 

[TexPatriot]

One of the reasons I fully support abortion within the first 15wks or so. Encouraging the idiots to make more idiots isn’t a winning move.

It’s often not the smart women who can’t seem to manage their own crotch.

Haney was aborted by his lot lizard mother in a truck stop commode but he somehow managed to crawl out.

 

[TurboTrout]

Haney was aborted by his lot lizard mother in a truck stop commode but he somehow managed to crawl out.

God loves a good fighter! Lol

 

[Flyingbullseye]

Cause those that are part of the Federal Militia know the real answer.

For reference:

Definition of militia​

1a: a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
b: a body of citizens organized for military service
2: the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service
3: a private group of armed individuals that operates as a paramilitary force and is typically motivated by a political or religious ideology specifically : such a group that aims to defend individual rights against government authority that is perceived as oppressive

Does a slow look at the physical disposition of the average American............ahhhhhhhhh

 

[Hobo Hilton]

If you think someone is coming to save you...
Please share that info with the rest of us.

 

[FatBoy]

If you think someone is coming to save you...
Please share that info with the rest of us.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

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... and that answered so many of the questions / comments above....
The thought that no one is coming to save your ass tips people over into denial of the bad situations developing.
Oh, it will all be OK....

 

[Dirty D]

Some local girl here in Anthem AZ organized an abortion rights protest yesterday at the same park that has the veterans memorial and some online trolls convinced a local patriot group that ANTIFA was going to show up and trash the monument. The local patriot group as well as some Proud Boys and 3%ers showed up in force and most were well behaved enough but more than a few were just looking for a fight and they are the ones that always end up on the evening news. A bunch of fat dudes LARPing in FDE tac gear just looks silly to anyone who had to wear that shit on duty and looks scary to the soccer mom crowd. In the perception war most militias are their own worst enemies.

 

[BAMCIS]

Then and now...

AMERICAN PIONEER CORPS

www.americanpioneercorps.org

 

[accurate obsession]

Definition of militia​

3: a private group of armed individuals that operates as a paramilitary force and is typically motivated by a political or religious ideology specifically : such a group that aims to defend individual rights against government authority that is perceived as oppressive

Yes, this group, we have much interest.

 

[Llatikcuf]

I think the word was stigmatized during the Clinton administration. My former in laws, who were old fashioned laber union Democrats, didn't like it if somebody called their 40 acre spread with multiple shops and out buildings a "compound".

 

[TurboTrout]

Some local girl here in Anthem AZ organized an abortion rights protest yesterday at the same park that has the veterans memorial and some online trolls convinced a local patriot group that ANTIFA was going to show up and trash the monument. The local patriot group as well as some Proud Boys and 3%ers showed up in force and most were well behaved enough but more than a few were just looking for a fight and they are the ones that always end up on the evening news. A bunch of fat dudes LARPing in FDE tac gear just looks silly to anyone who had to wear that shit on duty and looks scary to the soccer mom crowd. In the perception war most militias are their own worst enemies.

Yes, compared to these Greek gods who wore it “on dutaaa”