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World's Greatest Drag Race. 2011 Supercars.

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I would have thought that the vet would do better. Nice work from the Nissan gt-r
 
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Those GT-R's are engineering marvels. Interesting though,its top speed on the 1/4 mile was not as high as some of the other. Stretch it out to half a mile and you some very different results.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 0481</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would have thought that the vet would do better. Nice work from the Nissan gt-r</div></div>
It would have if the idiot driver had switched off traction control (put it into competition mode). If you look at the start it lost almost three car lengths at launch. Typical with TC engaged. It also was a Z06 not a ZR1.
 
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from what i understand is gtr has to shift right before the 1/4 mile marker giving them a lower speed. Not sure what the evora was doing there it only has top speed of like 160 more of a track car.
 
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Funny that some of the 1/4 mile times in this event were quite different than the ones posted in their magazine. Maybe they should have one driver just do the quarter on each car and post those numbers. Who knows what idiot staffer they had driving what car.

Lotus? Ok but a 1 Series and not an M3/5?
 
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I would rather have the Ferrari 458 any day over any of those other cars!
 
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Don't vehicles with awd have different 1/4 mile speeds than those with rear wheel?

A GTR launches like a monster, however that rwd 458 tracked it down quite well for what it was worth. Wouldn't the 458 be going quicker than the GTR in order to be tracking it down still?

If that were the case, than anything that would eventually beat the GTR in let's say a 1/2 mile race would have a higher speed in theory through the 1/4 mile, even though they didn't win by position.

At least that's how i've always understood 1/4 mile speeds. Speed is irrelevant to time in essence, although there is a lot to be said about the speed as well.

- Brandon

- Brandon
 
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If you gave me a any of those cars, I would sell it, and buy the GT-R. I LOVE THOSE CARS! SKYLINE FTW!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BALLISTIC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you gave me a any of those cars, I would sell it, and buy the GT-R. I LOVE THOSE CARS! SKYLINE FTW! </div></div>

Just don't use the launch control or you'll throw the warranty away
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the ZR1 corvette wold smoke all of those cars. It gets 10.98 back to back.

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As a z06 owner (x2) I am partial to the vettes. Hard to argue with the proper management of two turbos and AWD though. Money aside, I'd take the gt3 rs followed by the 458.

Another thing, You don't see a whole lot of gtr's at the track days. You will however see vettes all over the place, some of with dozens and dozens lapping days over many seasons with nothing but normal maintenance. I don't think the gtr can do that. At least the earlier r35's couldn't
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BALLISTIC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you gave me a any of those cars, I would sell it, and buy the GT-R. I LOVE THOSE CARS! SKYLINE FTW! </div></div>

Just don't use the launch control or you'll throw the warranty away
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Not any more:</span>

"The GT-R user's manual states that turning off the VDC is only meant for escaping low-traction situations such as mud or snow. Nissan has re-programmed the 2010 model year GT-R to reduce the engine speed at launch to around 3,000 to 3,500 rpm with VDC enabled, which is meant to improve acceleration times. The new programming was also installed on old 2009 vehicles still in Nissan's inventory, and is available for existing 2009 vehicles.[34] <span style="font-weight: bold">The new facelifted GT-R however now has a launch mode, which Nissan calls "R-Mode Start", and is activated by setting the Transmission and VDC to "R" mode (the Suspension settings can be left in normal mode), holding the brakes, then the throttle, and finally releasing the brakes. The engine speed is now held at 4,000 rpm in this mode, <span style="text-decoration: underline">and it no longer voids the warranty.</span> However, the system allows a maximum of 4 consecutive hard launches before locking itself out, after which it can be unlocked by driving normally for 1.5 miles. </span>Tests by Edmund's Inside Line have shown the 2012 GT-R to achieve 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds with R-Mode Start activated and did the 1/4 mile in 11.2 seconds going 122.7 MPH".
 
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Or...or....

you could just go buy a couple of years old Dodge Viper and...well...kick all their asses back to Momma?

BMW? Check!
Por(s)che? Check!
Lotus? Check!
Kick ass 1/4 mile All American Beast? Not so check....

Performance (2008 base model) What was that? 2008? Seriously? But this is 2011?

The 8.4 Viper V10 Engine with dual throttle bodies/intake manifolds and 600HP

Dodge Viper fourth generation, phase II

0–60 mph (0–97 km/h): 3.4 sec [15]
0–100 mph (0–160 km/h): 7.6 sec [15]
<span style="font-weight: bold">quickest quarter mile: 10.92 sec @ 127.79 mph (205.66 km/h) [16]</span>
top speed: 202 mph (325 km/h)
slalom: 74.2 mph (119 km/h)+
skidpad average acceleration: 1.06 g (10.4 m/s²)
100–0 mph (160–0 km/h): 270 ft (82 m)

<span style="font-weight: bold">16 (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/25/one-fast-snake-stock-2008-dodge-viper-runs-10-second-quarter-mi/)</span>

I did however really enjoy seeing all those pretty cars! Zooooom....

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now take that American Steel and start wrenching!

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I buy a used c6 take it to DP cheaper than they paid and tell them all to bring it with over 1,400 BHP. <object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jd2yWjDhLiI?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jd2yWjDhLiI?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>
 
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My car right around 550+ hp as they are rating them BHP without 15% or so drivetrain loss.,I'm in a battle with myself to buy an ax or a YSI vortech.<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Rtg749WDenA?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Rtg749WDenA?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>
 
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And just for the vett sucks people here is a video of what a stock z06 can do,with someone who can really drive.My friend has a z06 and runs 11.1-11.2's @ 124-125 all day every day.<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ct_RxkWp41g?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ct_RxkWp41g?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>
 
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The British TopGear showed the GTR to be pretty quick.I'm all for made in America,but the Vet got beat.Did I not see something?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AWE2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The British TopGear showed the GTR to be pretty quick.I'm all for made in America,but the Vet got beat.Did I not see something? </div></div>The guy driving the vett needs to get out of the seat and let someone else drive.Running 11.90's in a z06 is about like someone shooing a 1.5 MOA group @ 100 with an AI OR Gap and saying thats how they shoot.
 
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ZR-1 9.81 AT 154MPH street tires pump gas
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Mechanic...Oh, your talking about the World Record for Vettes.

I was talking about the friggin World Record.

7.99 @ 177...A full second faster...
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Gonna be tough in a vette when your missing some cylinders! We are talking about drag racing here, not going out for groceries...

Oh yea, this was on pump gas....full weight...pump gas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEeo6l3a6s





 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mechanic...Oh, your talking about the World Record for Vettes.

I was talking about the friggin World Record.

7.99 @ 177...A full second faster...
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Gonna be tough in a vette when your missing some cylinders! We are talking about drag racing here, not going out for groceries...

Oh yea, this was on pump gas....full weight...pump gas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEeo6l3a6s


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I see your 7 and I raise you a 6
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8.975 GT-R, NOT A DRAG CAR!!

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I'm loving all of these videos and numbers for different cars. However it'd be awesome if we could keep it street legal. Street tires and potentially pump gas. That's where I see the comparisons being fair and useful.

That barely not 9 second GTR i'd give my firstborn for. And my kidneys.
 
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GT-R WHO LOL <object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/u1Onk8CfiJs?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/u1Onk8CfiJs?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>
 
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Why no Cadillac CTS-V???
Not saying that it'd beat "all" of the others, but it'd spank more than a few of the choices!!!

I find it funny that others are tryin to bring modded or specially (non-factory) vehicles into their equation!
 
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Yea the modded ones got out of hand,I was just trying to show that the driver who ran the 11.90 needed to be replaced.The CTS-V hands down is one of the coolest cars that has been made to date.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: slowkota</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why no Cadillac CTS-V???
Not saying that it'd beat "all" of the others, but it'd spank more than a few of the choices!!!

I find it funny that others are tryin to bring modded or specially (non-factory) vehicles into their equation!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: slowkota</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why no Cadillac CTS-V???
Not saying that it'd beat "all" of the others, but it'd spank more than a few of the choices!!!

I find it funny that others are tryin to bring modded or specially (non-factory) vehicles into their equation!

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Any time you mix the gtr with an American v8 there are sparks betweenthe fans. The gtr is an amazing car especially when you consider the weight. Nissan hit that one out of the park.

Taking performance road cars and comparing them in a drag race on a dirty runway is apples to oranges. I take it with a grain of salt. It was an entertaining watch, nothing more.

Regarding the z06. My 07's z06 would be hard as hell to launch on that dirty concrete runway. Im not a drag racer and i would certainly be in and out of the throttle all the way through third. It is NO surprise that the two AWD cars and the one with great launch control topped the rest.

The driver makes the car not the other way around. Not unlike rifle shooting.
 
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There is one area the American v8 trumps all,the ability to get back at the guy next door when his dog barks all damn night long.Wake up at 3 am open my electric dumps and let him hear my big ass cam damn near beat the windows out of his house for about 30 min.just saying got to let it warm up good so I don't break a valve spring .
 
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That was only a simple drag race. Doesn't mean jack or shit to a die hard gearhead. Let's see how they perform on a road course(results will be very different), then take them out onto a flying two mile to see where they fall then(again, the results will be very different).
We also know one thing about the cars that were in that little drag race:
There were a mix of 'classes', ie, Performance Indexes, running against one another. Weight:Horsepower dictates what PI a car falls into. Some of those cars are B Stock, some are A Stock, and some are S Stock. None of them are prepared to the limit of their class, and this makes any race between them totally irrelevant as to total performance.

If anyone gave me one of those cars, I would sell it in a hot second, and put the money into a sweet little C Prepared Alfa(V8 class killer), or maybe even an old school vintage car like my '66 Mustang(B Sedan, possibly low A Prepared when Pop gets done with it), or even a class killing Nissan 200-240 SX or a 510, or C110. Either way, that race was only a rolling car show and not very indicative of total performance, so it rates nothing more than a slight,"meh..."
 
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Notice the "G" meter even with stock tires. Love it on one of the last turns coming off the straight doing 182 miles an hour in a turn at 7:19
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The GT-R might have won, but my favorite part of the video was the engine sound of the 458...
 
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WELL, My Daddy's Cadillac V would smoke most of them....
 
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Ok got to give the Dodge guys thier props on this one. Looks like the Viper just broke the record at Nürburgring. Freaking amazingly fast. Check out the downforce from the wind at speed at the right of the screen and make sure to go full screen in HD.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That was only a simple drag race. Doesn't mean jack or shit to a die hard gearhead. Let's see how they perform on a road course(results will be very different), then take them out onto a flying two mile to see where they fall then(again, the results will be very different).
We also know one thing about the cars that were in that little drag race:
There were a mix of 'classes', ie, Performance Indexes, running against one another. Weight:Horsepower dictates what PI a car falls into. Some of those cars are B Stock, some are A Stock, and some are S Stock. None of them are prepared to the limit of their class, and this makes any race between them totally irrelevant as to total performance.

If anyone gave me one of those cars, I would sell it in a hot second, and put the money into a sweet little C Prepared Alfa(V8 class killer), or maybe even an old school vintage car like my '66 Mustang(B Sedan, possibly low A Prepared when Pop gets done with it), or even a class killing Nissan 200-240 SX or a 510, or C110. Either way, that race was only a rolling car show and not very indicative of total performance, so it rates nothing more than a slight,"meh..." </div></div>

Huh? Can you explain what "classes" you are talking about? NHRA stock?
 
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SCCA/NASA type stuff. Road Racing, Time Attack, you know, go as fast as you can driving at speed, turn left and right, over hills, downhills, off camber turns, in other words, real driving that demands skill and attention.
These venues and 'classes' are based on what is known as a Performance Index as seen here:
http://www.scca.com/documents/2011%20Tech/2011%20stock%20listings.pdf

Things like vehicle weight, horsepower, suspension mods, brake mods etc will dictate whether or not a vehicle falls into a stock prepared catagory, a modified catagory etc. If you have seen the Continetal Challenge or other road racing, you have seen ST, GT, GTS, DTP, LMP, and other classes race. Their is also a soon to be released B Sedan class for cars like the Fiesta, Fit, and Mazda 2 to race in with mild race prep.
 
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Swith, see Mechnics post above your last one...That is exactly that. Nürburgring is the gold standard. That car is a stock ACR, right out of the dealership.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Watch the driver's hands, Vette versus ACR, on that track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtRi9sqKPXw

Thanks but no thanks to driving the ACR at speed. It looks like it drives like a sustained crash.</div></div>
No doubt about that. It looked like a handfull to drive and he was "on the edge" the whole track. I would feel a lot safer in the ZR-1
 
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Having extensively driven in the new SRT 10, convert and coupe and the older Vipers. I can say it is a lot less forgiving driving in the Vettes and most modern sports cars. The Viper has very little driver aids. The car is barely civil to drive around town. Ever notice you almost never see Vipers with 50K+ miles on it? Not only are your legs jacked to the left, the pedals are super close to one another. I don't know how many times I have hit the brakes when going for the clutch. It's also hot as hell too. In traffic I would have to worry about overheating the car. It wold get close, but it's just a uncomfortable feeling to see the car about to boil over. Awesome car though. Quick enough for most people, looked great, (both the SRT and GTS version) and definitely has the "look at me" factor. But I would rather go with the Vette as it's a little more refined and just as quick.
 
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My SRT10 (RC truck, not a Viper) has never been close to overheating. Not even after a "sporty" driving session in 100+ degree weather. I can't argue with you about the rawness of the Viper V10. But that is exactly what makes the it appealing to some people, me included. IMO, Viper is was the last true muscle car.
 
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I wish it included the Corvette ZR1 and the Cadilac CTS-V. I've driven a couple CTS-V's and they are remarkable. 556 hp in a luxury sedan for under $70,000 is not bad. The world's fastest production sedan I think.