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Would you like to settle on Mars?

Maggot

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"
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    Would you like to move to another planet and be the owned slave of a Elitist megalomaniac.....
    Doesn't sound like an improvement over earth.
     
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    I just want it to get up and running so I can live out my days as a space pirate.


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    ALL of his books are recommended for ANYONE who appreciates the greatest epoch of American science fiction literature...
     
    Would you like to move to another planet and be the owned slave of a Elitist megalomaniac.....
    Doesn't sound like an improvement over earth.
    On the other hand, there's this take on it:

    Although they kinda became the elitist megalomaniacs, just with some pretty kickass spacecraft.
     
    Can we send all the leftist commie anti-gun fuck nuggets there instead? And no need to worry about shit like oxygen as they are a waste of it here as it is already.
    They'll actually blow so much hot air it'll cause the ice caps to melt and then millions of years later it'll have a sustainable M-class atmosphere.
     
    Why would I want to leave everything behind and spend the rest of my life building a new future only to have the left show up after the hard work was done and confiscate it all while telling me that "you didn't build that"?
     
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    Why would I want to leave everything behind and spend the rest of my life building a new future only to have the left show up after the hard work was done and confiscate it all while telling me that "you didn't build that"?


    Nah, the new Terran settlements will be built with autocannon turrets and their own 'social credit' system... If you ain't a contributing member of society, you can't come in. Wanna settle here? Prove yourself. Like "kill 2 Taliban with your father's AK-47" level proving yourself. American history from the 1940s to the present and how the leftists infiltrated and hacked the system is a lesson learned and not to be repeated again.

    I'll take old school style feudalism over globalism any fucking day.
     
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    Read what it's like to try to work in one of Musk's car factories before you decide if you want to live under his rule on his martian colony...
     
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    Unless I’m the first person to step on the planet Armstrong style..you can keep it

    People will prob have to live underground because up top has no atmosphere, your getting hit with radiation full time.
     
    Have you seen Mars? Nothing there. Super boring , can’t go outside can’t do anything
    Yeah but it's so open that you have basically unlimited range to go shooting and with the low gravity and no atmosphere just image the BCs. You could probably pop a Mars rover at 5 miles with ease.
     
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    Yeah but it's so open that you have basically unlimited range to go shooting and with the low gravity and no atmosphere just image the BCs. You could probably pop a Mars rover at 5 miles with ease.

    There is an atmosphere.
    The wind is wicked as hell
     
    Yeah but it's so open that you have basically unlimited range to go shooting and with the low gravity and no atmosphere just image the BCs. You could probably pop a Mars rover at 5 miles with ease.

    The atmosphere of Mars is mostly CO2, no oxygen. Powder wouldn't burn. Maybe there would be enough left over in the case if it was loaded in an O2 rich environment.

    Now, shooting catapults on Mars, that would be fun.
     
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    Less gravity = new ELR record. Sign me up. Not sure how my Kestrel will work with Coriolis though but I'll figure it out when I get there. Maybe I'll put in the request for FW 1.46.
    Smaller planet=more curvature. I'm guessing the horizon drops off before you get a new record. Just a guess. Someone else can do the math.
     
    The atmosphere of Mars is mostly CO2, no oxygen. Powder wouldn't burn. Maybe there would be enough left over in the case if it was loaded in an O2 rich environment.

    Now, shooting catapults on Mars, that would be fun.
    That's not how this works.

    That's not how ANY of this works.

    You've seen the video's of firearms 'functioning' underwater, right? Believe it or not, the 'exhaust gasses' of combusting nitrocellulose is to a large degree, Oxygen. Which promotes the burning rate, which produces more exhaust gasses, which promotes MORE burning rate, which produces MORE exhaust gasses.... and then the bullet leaves the barrel.
     
    Absolutley. Might die, might thrive. It's like planting an apple tree.
     
    Yes, of course.

    I’m curious to see what’s left of the last attempt to colonize it.

    Parallel realities create a veil of forgetfulness.

    I’m just embracing the sci-fi of it all!
     
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    i mean, it IS the “red” planet. methinks your idea has a lot of merit.
    Hmmmmm, being the 'Red' Planet, wouldnt that mean it leans towards conservatives. Or it could mean 'Commies' I suppose. We'll hold a rigged election to determine who gets it.
     
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    Elr central!!!!
    Can we get BC chart for mars?
    How much drop at 5000 yds??? .1 mil?
     
    Maybe in 200 years, but not now. I love Elon Musk’s sense of adventure, but that expedition is going to end badly. There’s 1000 things that can go wrong and they all end in a horrible death. That’s a one-way trip, the only question is when and how they die, not if.
     
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    Nope, never.

    Can't go outside, get fresh air, feel the wind, take my dog for a walk, listen to the birds chirp... then I have no interest.
     
    Maybe in 200 years, but not now. I love Elon Musk’s sense of adventure, but that expedition is going to end badly. There’s 1000 things that can go wrong and they all end in a horrible death. That’s a one-way trip, the only question is when and how they die, not if.

    Going to Mars is going to pretty much always be a one way trip as far as any colony level stuff goes (other than just like a small ship with a few folks like we did for the moon), due to how much resources it would take to bring folks back from Mars. Travel from Mars back to Earth probably won't really be done much until Mars is setup to produce some sort of rocket fuel, or we get nuclear powered rockets built.

    But for all their pie in the sky plans, I don't see anyone doing an actual proper test to see if ideas even work.
    Let's make it super easy....

    Parachute drop everything you would actually rocket to Mars for the first trip, onto one of the Himalayan mountain ranges, (as high up as you can find a plateau) Then parachute drop the people down there as well. Then tell them, good luck, in about 3 years we can send another supply drop and maybe more people. See how they do and if they become a thriving place?

    What mountain landing too hard...

    Okay make it practically cheating, we'll let them do the same thing in the center of Antarctica.
    Remember winter in Antarctica or at the top of the Himalayas would be a summer night on Mars.

    Figure out if they can actually live for 3 or more years like that with no supplies or people in and out, then ask those that survive, if they would like to go do it all over again on Mars.
     
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    Going to Mars is going to pretty much always be a one way trip as far as any colony level stuff goes (other than just like a small ship with a few folks like we did for the moon), due to how much resources it would take to bring folks back from Mars. Travel from Mars back to Earth probably won't really be done much until Mars is setup to produce some sort of rocket fuel, or we get nuclear powered rockets built.

    But for all their pie in the sky plans, I don't see anyone doing an actual proper test to see if ideas even work.
    Let's make it super easy....

    Parachute drop everything you would actually rocket to Mars for the first trip, onto one of the Himalayan mountain ranges, (as high up as you can find a plateau) Then parachute drop the people down there as well. Then tell them, good luck, in about 3 years we can send another supply drop and maybe more people. See how they do and if they become a thriving place?

    What mountain landing too hard...

    Okay make it practically cheating, we'll let them do the same thing in the center of Antarctica.
    Remember winter in Antarctica or at the top of the Himalayas would be a summer night on Mars.

    Figure out if they can actually live for 3 or more years like that with no supplies or people in and out, then ask those that survive, if they would like to go do it all over again on Mars.
    I agree with you, Mars may be the goal but why no long term training and vetting equipment and techniques in Antarctica and later the moon. Being first to Mars is big, but being first to Mars and not killing the entire expedition is even bigger.
     
    I have a few questions.

    1 - Is 'government' going with us?

    2 - Will I have the means to remove said government once we get there?
    Well you're basically going to be staying in government housing that is already there. So, probably not. I'm guessing you're going to be living in a very communist / socialist type of society.
     
    Going to Mars is going to pretty much always be a one way trip as far as any colony level stuff goes (other than just like a small ship with a few folks like we did for the moon), due to how much resources it would take to bring folks back from Mars. Travel from Mars back to Earth probably won't really be done much until Mars is setup to produce some sort of rocket fuel, or we get nuclear powered rockets built.

    But for all their pie in the sky plans, I don't see anyone doing an actual proper test to see if ideas even work.
    Let's make it super easy....

    Parachute drop everything you would actually rocket to Mars for the first trip, onto one of the Himalayan mountain ranges, (as high up as you can find a plateau) Then parachute drop the people down there as well. Then tell them, good luck, in about 3 years we can send another supply drop and maybe more people. See how they do and if they become a thriving place?

    What mountain landing too hard...

    Okay make it practically cheating, we'll let them do the same thing in the center of Antarctica.
    Remember winter in Antarctica or at the top of the Himalayas would be a summer night on Mars.

    Figure out if they can actually live for 3 or more years like that with no supplies or people in and out, then ask those that survive, if they would like to go do it all over again on Mars.

    I’m even more interested in Antarctica than I am Mars. Where do I sign?