Xero C1 Pro - v3.30 update

[vanrichten]

Last weekend I shot 20 rounds of 6.5 suppressed off a tripod with the Xero rifle mounted. Captured all 20 shots without issue. On version 3.32.

Pics of where the Xero is mounted and how far far back from the suppressor it was actually sitting.

 

[CavReconScout]

FWIW I logged another 10 today with no problems. That makes around 230 rds logged since March, divided between air rifle pellets, hand gun rounds, and rifle rounds. Slowest was 85 fps, fastest was 3344 fps. I used both the included tripod and the Area 419 arca mount. I have installed the updates as they came out, and haven’t had any missed shots or any other issues.

 

[BigJimFish]

I really thought I had dodged a bullet not having installed the 3.30 update. The last one I did was 3.27 and I did that one only at the end of my review cycle when I was making sure I had investigated the various software features thoroughly as I didn't use the app for my own use. Turns out I was wrong. I had not used the Garmin at a crowded indoor range since early in the review process with the original firmware. At that time it worked great. It didn't pick up a single shot from my neighbors and picked most of mine despite the position on the table being a bit further from the bore than recommended. This time... Yikes. I couldn't stop picking up neighboring shots. It even occasionally picked up one from two lanes over. You would think it would be keen to pick up all mine as well wouldn't you. Not so! The Garmin was dropping shots right and left. It wasn't even just the .22lr shots either, it was even dropping 9mm shots which are super easy for chronos to pick up. Meanwhile, the new Athlon didn't miss a shot all day and only picked up one neighboring lane shot...

Hopefully fully updating the Garmin will restore it somewhat to sanity but I really just want the original firmware back. It worked great with that firmware. If it doesn't ima have to update the review. The function today was significantly diminished from the original firmware. Fingers crossed for 3.32.

 

[Mike Casselton]

3.30 dropped 4or5 out of 27.

I’m on version 3.32 now. It pick up all 29 shots from my last outing, no failures

29 shots?
How can you live with yourself?

Can you really go home with a single, unfired round on a row?

Come on man! Fire that #30 and even those rows out.

 

[Mike Casselton]

Manta suppressor cover

A buddy has one of the manta covers.
I used to send him images of this stuff when I would see it at construction projects. It was usually 36"-48".
The cover works very well.

 

[Schw15]

Mine is back to normal not missing any shots at all. I think I shot 70 ish rounds today with 2 rifles

 

[SS8UUP]

29 shots?
How can you live with yourself?

Can you really go home with a single, unfired round on a row?

Come on man! Fire that #30 and even those rows out.

Haha to make up for that single, I put another ~150 shots on the version 3.32 xero over the past week and it didn’t miss any

 

[deertroy1]

My only gripe about the Garmin is that I'd like to be able to change the display so that the "AVERAGE" velocity is what is shown "LARGE" instead of the last shot fired. I'm to the point where I need reading class to see close range and I don't always have them at the range. I can see fine to shoot or at distance. Connecting to a cell phone isn't the answer as I'm in rural Canada where cell service is the exception not the rule.
I can't be the only up close visually challenged shooter out there.

 

[Garmin]

We are not seeing any missed shots in our testing since v3.32. If anyone is still having issues with missed shots, could you please provide the following information?

• SW Version (from the Settings | About page on the device, not the app)
• Number of shots taken vs recorded
• Indoor vs Outdoor
• Was the Xero C1 placed within the specified distance behind the muzzle and laterally from the barrel?
• Caliber and rough expected speed
• Are you willing to do a factory reset on the device? If yes, does that resolve the issue? Sync to the app first to avoid losing any saved sessions.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Schw15]

We are not seeing any missed shots in our testing since v3.32. If anyone is still having issues with missed shots, could you please provide the following information?

• SW Version (from the Settings | About page on the device, not the app)
• Number of shots taken vs recorded
• Indoor vs Outdoor
• Was the Xero C1 placed within the specified distance behind the muzzle and laterally from the barrel?
• Caliber and rough expected speed
• Are you willing to do a factory reset on the device? If yes, does that resolve the issue? Sync to the app first to avoid losing any saved sessions.

Thanks for your help.

Are you guys still against putting the garmin on the rifle?

 

[Jcarpenter223]

We are not seeing any missed shots in our testing since v3.32. If anyone is still having issues with missed shots, could you please provide the following information?

• SW Version (from the Settings | About page on the device, not the app)
• Number of shots taken vs recorded
• Indoor vs Outdoor
• Was the Xero C1 placed within the specified distance behind the muzzle and laterally from the barrel?
• Caliber and rough expected speed
• Are you willing to do a factory reset on the device? If yes, does that resolve the issue? Sync to the app first to avoid losing any saved sessions.

Thanks for your help.

I did do a factory reset when I was running into issues and the newest update remained. And continued to miss shot on and off rifle. It was indoors however

 

[Holliday]

Doing load development- 26 rnds multiple sessions, on the tripod on bench. No missed shots. Version 3.32

 

[G1Grandeur]

Are you guys still against putting the garmin on the rifle?

I don't think they are going to say it's safe to mount. because it was never designed to be that way. I am sure it's same way for other brands as well.

 

[Garmin]

I did do a factory reset when I was running into issues and the newest update remained. And continued to miss shot on and off rifle. It was indoors however

A factory reset will not change the software version. Are you on v3.30 or v3.32 now? Have you had a chance to try it outdoors? Is there any difference?

 

[Jcarpenter223]

A factory reset will not change the software version. Are you on v3.30 or v3.32 now? Have you had a chance to try it outdoors? Is there any difference?

3.32. Will try outdoors next weekend at a match.

Before the update to the 3.32 it read all shots in both indoor ranges I go to

 

[Southpaw357]

We are not seeing any missed shots in our testing since v3.32. If anyone is still having issues with missed shots, could you please provide the following information?

• SW Version (from the Settings | About page on the device, not the app)
• Number of shots taken vs recorded
• Indoor vs Outdoor
• Was the Xero C1 placed within the specified distance behind the muzzle and laterally from the barrel?
• Caliber and rough expected speed
• Are you willing to do a factory reset on the device? If yes, does that resolve the issue? Sync to the app first to avoid losing any saved sessions.

Thanks for your help.

@Garmin - As follows:
- SW Version: 3.32
- Number of shots taken vs recorded: I have made several detailed reports in this discussion thread over the last month or two. Please review them. They were posted here for Garmin to read.
- Outdoor vs Indoor: Always outdoor, mostly alone on the firing line.
- Xero Placement: Early strings after software update, the unit attached to rifle with several missed shots. So transitioned to ground mounted on factory provided tripod and I still miss shots. Pictures posted in this thread previously with tape measure showing placement. So yes, it is placed within the specified distance.
- Caliber & Speed: 6.5 Creedmoor at 2835 and 300 PRC at 2900
- I will try a factory reset and report back. But I don't have my hopes up. Perhaps my unit needs warranty repair/replacement.

 

[TBK]

We are not seeing any missed shots in our testing since v3.32. If anyone is still having issues with missed shots, could you please provide the following information?

• SW Version (from the Settings | About page on the device, not the app)
• Number of shots taken vs recorded
• Indoor vs Outdoor
• Was the Xero C1 placed within the specified distance behind the muzzle and laterally from the barrel?
• Caliber and rough expected speed
• Are you willing to do a factory reset on the device? If yes, does that resolve the issue? Sync to the app first to avoid losing any saved sessions.

Thanks for your help.

@Garmin
I had missed shots yesterday. It was frustrating because it was during load development. I did not realize that shots were missed until I was done so the session and ammo was wasted. It missed 2 out of 30 shots.

SW Version: 3.32
Number of shots taken vs recorded: 30 taken, 28 recorded
Indoor vs Outdoor: Outdoor, 78F, 72% humidity, cloudy, no wind.
Was the Xero C1 placed within the specified distance behind the muzzle and laterally from the barrel?: Yes, attached via a solid base to the Arca rail so the position was the same for every shot.
Caliber and rough expected speed: 6.5 Creedmoor, ~2765 fps (Berger 144gr HLRT bullets, target at 100 yards, flat terrain)
Are you willing to do a factory reset on the device? If yes, does that resolve the issue? Sync to the app first to avoid losing any saved sessions:: Yes, willing to try a factory reset and report but I will not be able to get to the range for two weeks.

EDIT: One more odd thing--shots 19 and 20 report identical speeds. So do shots 21 and 22. Duplicates?? I have never seen duplicates before.

Putting them in as spreadsheet and aligning similar speeds under a charge (while keeping the recorded values in order), it looks like shots 17 and 27 were missed.