Form and Function of MOA and MIL​

TLDR

• MIL single-digit rounding is more comfortable and faster.
• Dialing MILs is simpler.
• Speed Dope is useful in many applications.
• MILS align to range much simpler than MOA
• WIND in MILs is far easier than in MOA.

Introduction​

When it comes to long-range precision shooting, the debate between MIL and MOA scopes can feel as old as time. Articles continue to pop up saying the exact same thing, never daring to step out of the well-worn track of last week’s article on the same subject. Most of these articles are filled with mathematical gobbledygook, and others don’t dare offend one camp or the other. The common responses often leave so much to be desired that I find myself wishing I had the time back from reading the latest article to spend doing something more useful – like watching YouTube.

So instead of waiting for the next version of the exact same thing, we are going to write what we have wanted to read but never found. Let’s break down the origins, modern applicability, and practical advantages of MIL and MOA with the precision we expect from our rifles, and not leave ourselves saying “the wind screwed us” again.

I have an ATACR 1-8 and really like it (really like the new Fc-Dmx reticle). I’m wanting to outfit another 16” AR and really want another one .., but don’t want pay ATACR money though.

I really only use it on 8 power to be honest. How disappointed will I be with the NX8? I’ve read the eye box is horrible, 1 power is horrible ect ect ect

Posting to help out a friend. Local to DFW in TX, specifically Terrell, TX. I can vouch for my friend who will handle shipping the rifle, etc. I will handle communication on here and payment details. I accept PP F&F, Zelle, Venmo or cash in person.

This is a PRS Ready Rifle, details below:

- Terminus Zeus QC Short Action .308 BF. SOLD
- Foundation MG2 (Dark Distressed) w/ Arca Rail and Hawkins Bottom Metal (Short Action M5 DBM) SOLD
- Barrel Choice: Proof Prefit 26" 6 GT barrel w/200 rounds fired ..... OR ..... 6.5 Creedmoor with 562 rounds fired (will update with barrel manufacturer and length ASAP) SOLD
- Triggertech Special Trigger: 2 Stage, Flat Shoe SOLD
- APA Little Bastard Muzzle Break (will update with generation and caliber ASAP) SOLD

***Please note***

- scope, rings, bipod, mag, or anything not listed above, not included
- not interested in trades
- looking to sell as a package, but willing to separate for the right price

$3,300 plus shipping CONUS. $3,200 local pickup. Local to DFW in TX, specifically Terrell, TX. SOLD

Any questions, please let me know. Thanks y'all!

Dave

God, Sam was ahead of his time!

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Hello,

I'm selling my 3 Gun/SPR project rifle. MEGA AR15 MML Billet Upper Receiver with 12" M-LOK Handguard, thermal fit WOA 16" SPR 1/7 .223 Wylde barrel, 1/2x28, 500 rounds down the tube. The upper & barrel look new. Great accuracy with Sierra 223/55gr hpbt and AAC 556/77gr matchking
Barrel has 1/2x28 - 5/8x24 thread adapter with Pierce (I believe) 6mm muzzle brake.
New JP low mass stainless bolt carrier, JP bolt and firing pin, JP low mass rifle buffer.
Billet BDX T15 lower, ACE SOCOM stock, JP trigger (lower has around 200 rounds of 6.5 Grendel)
All you need is to replace the clamp on gas block with an adjustable one and charging handle for a sweet shooting rig.

$1350 $1260 shipped and insured to your FFL, discrete pp f&f, PM with any questions or pictures

$775 shipped without BCG or charging handle

Thanks for looking

So after crying for years they are broke and seeing their redistribution congestion pricing plans go down the drain what is their next move.To give FREE MTA cards to teenagers in an attempt to, get this now, stop them from turnstile jumping and evading fares.You cannot make this shit up. We are now overpopulated with low life irresponsible losers who the government cant or wont control but would rather appease with other peoples money.I am betting by 2050 we will be a European/SouthAmerican socialist style nation.

I saw a "shielded" 1911 safety on an Atlas and decided to try one on a regular 1911. Wow! This thing is great, it allows me to hit the safety without needing to be as precise on my thumb placement. It feels a bit like the safety on a sig sao. This one is DLC coated. It also rides high and allows for an immediately high grip. It does slightly interfere with the rear cocking serrstions but thats too be expected.

One small nit pick.
I wish it used a King style extended hammer pin.

Wife sent this over, and thought pretty darn funny

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SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD Vortex Razor HD 4.5-27 EBR-7C MRAD with Tenebraex caps. Perfect shape, not even mounted. I bought two and never used the second, that second one is the one I am selling. $1550.00. I have the sunshade. Using Guntabs or Paypal goods and services for payment. Best deal you will find by far.

I have a mounted but never used Area 419 zero press. It will come with everything as it came from the factory including shipping in the factory box. Its heavy so firm on $1150 shipped to your door. Will also include 4 new Redding competition shell holders, #1 x2, #5, #13. This press is a beast and the best on the market. I just have zero time to shoot let alone reload.
Thanks Jeff

Yes in Poland yes last November. But hey. https://www.businessinsider.com/eco-activist-mauled-bear-poland-2023-11

Cheap enough.
Sucks it’s 100 rounds per order, but 100 rounds is 100 rounds….. Go and make AJ proud.

Almost makes you wonder if it’s not eldest son being sold by some anti-2A group, considering the price and limited quantity per order, and country of origin. lol

RFK Jr. says he may need to apologize to past women for alleged sexual assault: 'Had a very rambunctious life’
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rfk-j...ged-sexual-assault-had-very-rambunctious-life

Does anyone else have that little voice inside their head thats saying'They will never allow Trump to win?" I am hearing it louder and louder now. When Joe was in there even before his debate performance I knew something was up but didnt think they would flip to Hairyass that quickly.They knew Joe might have lost all 50 states they way things were going so they were relying on one of Trumps legal cases to derail him.When that unraveled the Crooks maybe was a surprise but maybe not either way he failed so they pulled the rug out from under Joe and now Cumallova is in.What bothers me is they do internal polls so they kinda have an idea what will work or what may work OR what they will do to get it to work.I just dont see the real people behind the election letting Trump get anywheres near the WH not even if he pays for the tour.I hope I am wrong but since they were totally caught off guard in 2016 they have upped their game and the Repubs and RINOS are just sucking wind.

This would be more fun than shooting fish in a barrel!

Governments won't do anything about it. How about the private sector?

Anyone else want to sign up!

Sirhr

Snoop Dogg is seemingly everywhere during the Paris Olympics, but on Friday morning you could catch him carrying the Olympic torch ahead of the opening ceremony.
He was one of the final torch bearers of the Olympic flame, which was lit in April in Greece and slowly has journeyed toward Paris since. Snoop Dogg’s leg was in Saint-Denis, a suburb of Paris.
In an interview earlier this week, the multihyphenate expressed gratitude toward the U.S. and France for the opportunity.
“I look at this as a prestigious honor and something I truly respect. I would have never dreamed of nothing like this,” he said. “I’m going to be on my best behavior. I’m going to be on my best athleticism. I’ll be able to breathe slow to walk fast and hold the torch with a smile on my face, because I realize how prestigious this event is.”
Snoop Dogg is in Paris to help cover the Games for NBC, part of the U.S. broadcaster’s bet to boost ratings by infusing coverage with pop culture.

WTF!!!

Moving along some scopes before they grow rifles.

Payment via PayPal F&F, Zelle, Venmo, or USPS MO.

1. Leupold Mark 4 M1-16x with mildot reticle. 2007 manufacture, glass is clear, scope in good condition except for the windage know which has wear on the turret cap. $825 shipped. SOLD

2. Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x32 Mil turrets Mildot reticle. Very good condition, glass is excellent, has a dent on the objective bell housing. $1100 shipped SOLD

3. Schmidt and Bender 3-12x50 P3L with double turn windowed turret. CCW elevation. Excellent condition with only a few minor rub marks. $1850 shipped. SOLD

Only trades would be an NXS 3.5-15x50 C142 (mil/mildot) or C360 (mil/md2.0), or Pantone 5-25 S&B








Nightforce Objective Bell

I have two Manners Mini-Chassis/ Proof Sendero channel- both have seen bench shooting only and have no cracks, no chips, and are in overall excellent shape. Both have flush cups on bottom side of stock front/Rear.

These stocks are from 2020'ish - they were the EH1 or elite tacticals with M5 DBM Gen 2 Mini Chassis. I am looking for the receipts, but they were both around $1450 shipped from Altus.

** please read** - I am only selling ONE stock - I love both colors so you choose - First I will take it gets it.
Scorched earth has the 2 bullet holder - I can remove it or leave it on.

$1250 shipped & Insured

I am looking for a top tier piece of glass to complete my custom 6.4# .300 PRC built on a Defiance AnTi action. This rifle will primarily be used for backpack elk hunting in the mountains. I just purchased a ZCO 5-27 intending to put it on this rifle. While the scope is awesome, it is way too big and heavy. I'm going to return it and try something else. I am currently waffling between a NX8 4-32 or an S&B PMII 3-20. The NX8 is lighter, cheaper, and has better magnification range. Presumably, the S&B has better glass and has a smaller form factor. Is it worth an extra 4 ounces for the S&B? They likely both have bomb proof reliability. Which of those scopes would the Hide recommend and what other options should I be looking at? Is the March 4.5-28 a viable alternative? My ideal list of requirements is below.

Weight- <32 ounces
Ideal mag range- 5-25x
FFP
Target turrets with capped/ lockable windage
Illumination is required
Reticle that allows me to hold for wind

Hi,

I am looking to replace my stock trigger in my Remington 700 and would like some advice on which trigger company to use?

Thank you in advance,

Jonathan

Should I be making fun of this product or not. Not sure. But the advertising surly seems over the top. Price, I think $80.00. (Unless you purchase two or three or more than they give a discount.).

Somehow, it just seems a bit too true to be any good.

How is this legal?

This just has to be done!

Next SH T-shirt?

233pcs new brass primed with cci 450
67pcs once fired that are wet tumbled
All are the same lot number

Asking $375 shipped