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Firearms SAKO TRG-S, SIG CROSS, KIMBER TEN II, AERO SOLUS FOR SALE

Liquidating some that don't get used.

First up is a Sako TRG-S in 7mm Rem Mag. This hasn't seen much use. Round count unknown, but in excellent condition. The KRG Whiskey 3 it's installed in and the IOR scope rail have only been used for less than 40 rounds. Includes AICS magazine, which also has less than 40 rounds through it. Great rifle that just doesn't get used. Scope and mount not included. $1750

Second. Sig Cross in 6.5 CM with approximately 60-80 rounds through it. Added a Magpul MLOK bipod adapter, ARCA rail, and a couple Picatinny sections to it. I set this up for use with a clip-on NV, hunting off a tripod. Includes original box and all the contents. Scope and mount not included. $SOLD

Third. Aero Solus KRG Bravo chambered in 6mm Creedmoor.Threaded 26" Sendero contour barrel. Unfired. Includes box and all original contents. $SOLD

Last. Kimber Stainless Ten II Polymer double stack 1911 in 45 ACP. Great shape, light weight. Includes two Mec-Gar 13 rd magazines and the original hardcase. $700 shipped.

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Precision supressors

Looking to add another supressor to the stable. So far I have a gemtech tracker and a griffin armament sd30. Wanting to get a good supressor for precision shooting that won’t move point of impact too much and is known more for a precision rifle supressor. I was looking at the thunderbeast ultra 7 or the dead air nomad. I can’t get the ultra 7 (and can’t even see the price on SilencerShop right now because they are out of stock). Is the ultra 7 the best known for precision shooting? Or is there other ones I should look at, thanks for your opinions or help.

My First PRS Match: I Screwed Up!

After months of preparation I entered my first match yesterday at the Gadsden Shooting Center in central Missouri. I was the fifth shooter for our squad and had a chance to locate all five targets and watch others shoot. Members of my squad were helpful in locating targets and distances. The stage consisted of shooting all five targets off of a tripod that had a flat circular top. It looked as though I was using the same type of bag as everyone else, but I may not have taken enough of the fill out of it yet to make it sit well and provide a stable shooting platform on that flat, round top.

By the time I sighted the first target and loaded my round, the bag had begun to slip. The RO fortunately saw the bag begin to slip and alerted me right away. I moved my left hand (from above the scope) to below the front of the rifle and began to lift it while the bag fell. I then touched off an accidental discharge downrange into the hillside. I didn't feel my finger touch the trigger since it was 47 degrees and my hands were numb. Credit to the RO again for stepping in to offer help as I removed the mag and left the firing line.

In fifty years of hunting and shooting I have never unintentionally discharged a firearm, and I'll do everything necessary to make sure that never happens again. I'm posting this in the hope that it keeps someone else from making the same mistakes, which are:
  1. Be certain of the stability of your shooting platform. Stop and borrow a bag if needed. You have too many things to concentrate on to try and balance a setup.
  2. Don't risk cold hands or a shivering body. Dress appropriately in layers. Bring shooting gloves and/or hand warmers. If your fingers are cold at all you should not be shooting.
  3. Don't be pressured by the clock - especially if you are a new shooter - as this will drive mistakes. Take all the time you need to take every shot safely, and let your speed increase with practice and experience over time.
  4. If your shot is interrupted for any reason, flip up the bolt!
  5. Using a simple hunting reticle won't cut it. Our first stage included five different holdover distances and did not permit dialing elevation. I had each holdover written in inches before the match, but unless you know (and even if you do) the height of each target it is nearly impossible for a newbie to gauge that at distance. Have a scope reticle with markings that will put you on target with a holdover at a glance.
Kudos to the guy that ran out to my truck as I was leaving to encourage me not to give up. He let me know that the Match Director had only DQ'd me from the stage and not the match. I wasn't aware of that when I left the stage, but I knew that the PRS rules called for a match DQ. I told him that I was too cold and too afraid that it would happen again. He said to make sure I came back to another match, and I assured him that I would definitely do that after I had more practice safely moving in and out of stages and setting up many different shooting platforms.

Organisational View of PRS

G'day;

I'm looking for people's opinions from an organisational POV on Precision shooters participating in precision competition.

I've had the opportunity to discuss this matter with a couple of other instructors from different areas/organisations regarding their team participating in civilian precision competitions.

Generally speaking, higher fidelity type activities like Mammoth seem to get the nod, but PRS seems to be, no, they don't like it and don't encourage it for their members.

Primary concerns in short are;

Attitude:
1. PRS can encourage a lot of "dick measuring" and the other shooters and the competition can be toxic.
2. The mental game of the shooter is very important - PRS is a game and doesn't reflect a sniper's ability to perform their function in a professional capacity, but there's concern that if a shooter participates in civilian competition theres;
a. A level of expected competence from the shooter's perspective - ego
b. A level of competence perceived by other shooters due to the nature of their profession
If the professional is beaten by civilians, this can lead to a bruised ego and shaken confidence in their abilities.
A lot of civilian shooters can't separate their score on a score board with being a professional shooter, and this leads them to be over confident and talk down to the team guys if/when they beat them, again potentially eroding personal confidence.

Equipment:
The guns required to be competitive at the higher levels are built specifically for PRS and are becoming less reflective of a typical field rifle or duty rifle.
This can lead to bad habits and a loss of muscle memory, particularly of concern for areas and organisations that don't have the funds to maintain a higher level of range time for their shooters or are using older design type rifle's.

These were the primary areas of concern. There were some others that i believe either fall into one or the other category for the above. The primary concern was attitude.

I'm not sold one way or another but from my view in my arm chair here what i've seen either way are;

Pro
We've picked up some good pieces of kit as the competition world seems to be a really good T&E environment where in the guys chasing the points will gravitate towards the best piece of equipment - making it easy to choose which gear to upgrade to. Just look at what the pro's are running.

Con
I've seen a precision shooter running lighter 6mm ammo for competition come back and get on a 308 and have reduced accuracy as a result (Rifle is also lighter than the PRS gun). We experienced this as well when going to 22lr for training on the bolt guns. The 22lr let us get away with things the 308 wouldn't. We've seen guys go over to IPSC as well and step offline for mag changes resulting in getting pinged by RO's as well. Potentially a similar issue with PRS?

I'm stuck on the side line here and looking for experience.

Is civilian competition generally encouraged or discouraged?

Cheers

Carso

Briefcases and other fine leather goods

Has the Hide discussed this topic? I haven't been able to locate anything that quite fits the topic aside from the quality watch page. For us "office warriors" that roll into our workplace day after day and appreciate a fine piece of leather to be your briefcase, what manufactures/models have you settled on? Personally, I've spent an embarrassing amount of money with Saddleback Leather as an example.

-LD
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Someone Should Try This

I freely admit I'm a gun autist. There are certain things I like. Every piece of metal coated in something better than phosphate to prevent rust/wear. A supported tail bolt carrier to increase theoretical accuracy. CHF barrels give me the warm fuzzies, as does LW50 because it wears better than traditional stainless (allegedly). I like my AR builds to be tight as a tic without any rattle.

I'm also a mediocre shot. There's a reason I don't post groups here. I work 50+ hours a week and my days off are usually spent ticking off boxes on the hunny-do list. I don't have the time I'd like to get good. At least I admit it.

I have a pet theory about something that may (or may not, I'm an autist, not an engineer) increase accuracy (as Molon would say, technically precision) that I'd like to put out there for the Hide. Maybe one of you who does have the skills could test it and prove or disprove it.

Joe Carlos has data out there showing the efficacy of supported tail bolt carriers yielding an increase in potential precision and smaller group sizes. While he was at it, he also tested anti-tilt buffers. If memory serves, he didn't specify, but I believe he ordered it from slash buffers. He found it did not yield any increase in accuracy.

Here's where my theory kicks in. What if you combined the anti-tilt buffer with an anti-tilt buffer tube (along with a supported tail carrier like Lantac, SRC, Dirty Bird, Radian, etc)? The POF or PWS designs in particular come to mind.

The combination, in my mind, could remove enough of the slop in tolerance to possibly give better shot to shot consistency.

I could also see it negatively impacting reliability, but given that I long ago started as an AK guy, perhaps that's just unfounded paranoia.

In any case, perhaps one of you with the skill, time, resources, and also a touch of the 'tism can give this hairbrained idea a try. If it works, I've contributed something. If not, well, back to the drawing board.

Netflix World War II: From the Frontlines

I just finished this 6 episode series and think very highly of it. It's probably the best historical documentary on the topic that I've seen since "They Shall Not Grow Old" (albeit that covers WWI). I'm not sure what other folks experienced but while I was growing up it seemed like the one small "coal town" in PA where my father grew up in singlehandedly fought WWII and I had the privilege to meet & know many of those veterans. I recall when the movie "Saving Private Ryan" came out, I had an opportunity to interview a 1st wave D-Day veteran and in my youth foolishly squandered the honor of talking with the gentleman about his experiences by continually referencing the movie that had just been released.

Throughout the 90's, I had the pleasure of attending annual Veteran's banquets at the American Legion with my father & grandfather in that small Coal Town and drinking Coke while those WWII vets pounded drinks like "7&7" and never talking about their experiences from what I remember but rather a sense of "we did what we needed to" type of mantra. These folks were products of the Great Depression and some of them were real "characters" because of that. It's been years since I've thought of it but one of them used to sit in their house naked, not because they were nudist per say, but because they didn't see the point in "wearing out perfectly good clothes sitting at home". It's comical to me now but at the time I thought that fellow at least, was a bit "off his rocker". Maybe the majority of them were in hindsight, they didn't seem to complain but holy smokes did they ever drink. Of course they've all since passed away and now the Vietnam folks are as well but they didn't have the opportunity to share their contributions like the WWII crew did. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the Korea War Vets (still looking for a solid documentary about the "Forgotten War"). A couple of years ago I was able to spend a few hours with a Korea War Vet at the American Legion and resembled something like the "People Are Crazy" song if I were to be honest.

Guess the takeaway from the documentary, as well as why I wanted to discuss it at least, is I'm sure many of us here have the same memories & experiences and thought it'd be appropriate to honor their stories by keeping them still flowing and not resorting to waiting for either Memorial or Veteran's Day to share the stories as a passing glance.

Anyway, I'm derailing my own post- if anyone else appreciates WWII documentaries I'd highly recommend checking this one out (as well as the WWI documentary "They Shall Not Grow Old").

-LD
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Feedback Scammer alert! usp45ss

Tried to scam me off a WTB add. He provided a "selfie" pic with a license which I'll include but pulled the image of the barrel off the web on Rokslide. Make sure you do your DD before sending people your $! The paper in the timestamp pic is edited in....its actually good work. Lessons learned for sure...thankfully not the hard way!

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Excessive Reloading and Accuracy

I recently just finished off my first batch of 6.5CM with Peterson Brass. I took good care of the brass everytime I reloaded and got 12 reloads out of them. But I did notice that probably by the 8th relaod, now looking back, I wasn't hitting targets consistently out at 700 and beyond like I did before. I was fireforming my new brass yesterday, and it was was splashing low in the dirt out at 700. I assume could be new brass? I adjusted up to .3 mils and it was then on target. After that, I was hitting targets very consistently from 700 to 1000 with ease. Now, I was either just having a very good day, or my old casings were just getting so thin and worn, that the charges weren't consistent anymore after so many reloads. Could this be the case? Or was it just me all along? LOL!

SOLD Nucleus SA Gen 1 w/ Barloc

For sale is a Gen 1 Nucleus short action from ARC.

Included:
  1. Unfired Nucleus short action, gen 1, right hand, early serial (#00007).
  2. Trigger pin *2
  3. Tabbed recoil lug
  4. Integrated barloc system: tabbed barloc recoil lug, washer, nut, screw, and wrench
  5. Washers & bolt to disassemble bolt.
  6. Additional striker spring.
Condition:
  • The action had shoulderless barrel installed via the Barloc system, trigger & scope mount installed, and the barreled action installed in chassis.
  • As a result there are light handling marks from install/reinstall, barrel thread has left over anti-seize.
  • <100 dry fire/bolt cycle, no live fire.
  • Bolt head/recoil spring recall completed (additional spring installed, but don't recall whether 19lbs or 25lbs is currently installed)
Price:
$850 shipped to your FFL, Paypal F&F or +3% for G&S/credit card.

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Mount Recommendations

Which mount would you choose?

  • Spuhr SP-4006

    Votes: 9 22.5%
  • Badger Condition One Max

    Votes: 6 15.0%
  • Area 419 Tactical

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • Seekins HIT mount

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • Audere

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • ARC M-Brace

    Votes: 14 35.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 9 22.5%

If you were buying a one piece mount today what it be? Optic will be a Razor Gen 3 6-36 mounted on a RimX in an ACC Elite chassis. I do plan on using a MDT Send It Level, so bonus points for a mount system it can easily integrate with.

California Gun Registration and Liability Insurance

I will just leave these two links for discussion. I am angry and I want to leave California.


Reloading Equipment Prometheus Powder Measure

Prometheus Powder Measure with custom corian base and adjustable leveling feet. Also has 22, 243, 264, 284 and 338 brass funnel nozzles as well as Brand’s fine powder trickler that can be used with 8208 type powders. $5,000 F&F or cash face to face. I can ship, but would prefer face to face transaction if possible. I’m in eastern Ohio, but travel extensively throughout the Midwest and the East Coast. PM if interested, don’t reply in this tread - thanks
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Rimfire FS: Rare Federal Gold Medal Ultramatch 22lr ammo (UM1B)

New old stock dimpled Federal Gold Medal UM1B ultramatch ammo (500rds). The same ammo made after American gold Medal winners in '92.

Manufactured in '98. This is some of the best 22 ammo made. Owning this is ammo is like owning a piece of history... still in the cellophane.

I've had it in my climate controlled garage and haven't seen it available in years.

These 2 cases of UHM1B are both the same lot #. The "B" variation is standard sub-sonic velocity (1080FPS) and has extremely consistent SD compared to the UHM1, making it Ideal for long range shooting.

Asking $295 shipped UPS per 500

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