Hey all,

I know this question has been asked a couple times and I've been reading through some recent threads, but hoping for folks with experience on a few of these optics to chime in. In short I have a proven 20" SAMR-ish .223 gun that I love but just haven't shot much in the past few years.

So I pilfered the old school mildot SWFA 3-9 I had on it and ending up selling that along with a .308 bolt gun to a buddy getting into hunting.

Well I'd like to get an optic back on the rifle and I figured there's probably something out there these days for around $1K that'd have some nice updates compared to the old reliable SWFA. And wouldn't you know it there's just as many trade off's now as there was back then.

I'd be curious if anyone had any $.02 on my considerations here or if I'm missing something I'd appreciate it. Use case is primarily a bit of target shooting, coyote hunting, and maybe a gas gun match from time to time.

Things I like (for this gun):

FFP
2-10x-ish magnification
Length around 13" or less
Weight around 25oz or less
Illumination
Zero Stops / Locking Turrets
Not super busy reticles
Adjustable Parallax (nice to have but not required for this gun)

Things I don't like (for this gun):
Unreliable things
Heavy / Long Scopes
Super busy reticles / should be hunter friendly


I have a range for sure but this is what I'm considering:

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Leupold Mark 4HD M5C3 FFP TMR Illuminated
~$1000

My initial replacement thought. Love the size/weight, features, reticle is acceptable for me.
Concerned about tracking and reliability based on Rokslide tests for the money. Conflicting reports on glass quality for the price.

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Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42mm STR-MIL FFP
~$1500

Love the size/weight, features, glass is probably excellent, bit spendy (diminishing returns?)
Reticle is a bit busy for me and feel it might get lost hunting

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Trijicon Credo 2-10x36 FFP w/ Red MRAD
~$1000

Good size/weight if just a touch long, Japanese glass
Reticle a bit busier than I'd like, unsure if better that the Leupy for the same price?

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Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42mm AHMR2 FFP IR MIL
~$400

Like the size/weight, features, generally like the reticle, ranging capability is really cool, cheap means more money rolled into scope on a different rifle faster, or less buyer's remorse if someone ever comes out with a banger MPVO.
Don't love a 1 MOA dot, biggest concerns is on quality and reliability, glass is said to be OK, seems like a dice roll.

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Vortex PST Gen 2 2-10x FFP Mil
~$750

Like the size/weight, generally like the reticle, cheaper than other options, Vortex warranty
Discontinued/Somewhat Hard To Find, glass said to be OK

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Bushnell LRTSi 3-12 FFP
~$800?

Like the weight, a touch long, G3 tree is ok, said to have great Japanese glass, should have bought one years ago during the blow out.
Discontinued/ Very Hard To Find, read a few horror stories about Bushnell warranties on these and replacing them with worse options

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Maven RS1.2 - 2.5-15x44 FFP
$~1100

Excellent performance in Rokslide tests, Good glass, good hunting reticle, great magnification range
Definitely a long boy, a touch on the heavy side, temptation to slap on a bolt-gun hunting rifle instead

So, Pres. Trump is to address a joint session of Congress tomorrow evening. Everyone will be there and he will "tell it like it is." Afterwards, there will be a democratic response.

This smells an awful lot to me like a State of the Union address (SOTU). I'm curious then as to why they aren't referring to it as such in the media (Newsmax doesn't for sure).

What gives? Something I'm not aware of?

GOA filed a FOIA request about the .gov monitoring firearm community websites.

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Live in Ohio and have to cut grass around a large dying cherry tree that is covered in poison ivy or sumac vines. On most of these I just cut the vines at the base and let the tree be. This one had holes at 3' and about 15' and was a literally hive of activity. Wasn't sure if they were hornets, yellow jackets, honey bees or whatever, but they didn't like my 72" Hustler whenever I went near it.

Being March, I was naively hopeful that it was dormant, and I could drop it and eventually burn it without too much prednisone.

The bees weren't having any of that.

I was able to drop it yesterday then they started to swarm. I mixed up a bit of Termidor (Taurus SC) and a pint of water and hit the hollowed out base.

Went back this am to cut it up. Not a soul survived. I was unhappy that it turned out to be a 8-10' column of honey bees with what turned out to be very sweet honey. (yeah, I tried some near the top of the hive). Wish they were something else.

Edit: To be clear, I expected to see zero shift between barrels, just trying to determine what would be considered excessive.

I just started using an AXSR after getting set up with one with several barrels of different calibers. Had a question after my first range trip and thought I'd post this since I don't have any experience with this platform and according to most threads I've found this doesn't seem like the norm.

The gun came with the .300 Norma barrel and I also got a 20" .308 AI barrel, A 27" .338 Lapua AI barrel and a 24" Stainless Proof 6.5 Creedmoor barrel.
What is considered a typical zero shift when swapping between calibers or is there even a typical outcome?
I zeroed the gun with the .308 barrel (175 FGMM) and when I switched to the .300 Norma barrel (215 Berger OTM ammo) it was less than .2 mil off the .308 zero which is fantastic.

When I switched to the AI .338 Lapua barrel (Hornady 285 ELDM) it was 9.5” low and 4.5” left. Would this be considered within acceptable limits or does this sound unusual for this rifle?
I actually thought I did something wrong installing the .338 barrel so I loosened the locking bolt and barrel and re tightened everything and the shots went back into the same group. I understand not to expect it to hold the same zero between barrels and calibers, just wondering if this is typical.

6mm prc barreled action. Mac bros evo II action, proof 20 inch 7.5 twist barrel 2 mags muzzle brake. 200 rounds of lapua brass. Hornady bushing dies. 450 rounds through it.$1800

No more pedo parades in Hungary

FS: Manners PRS-TCS in ALTUS Badlands.
M5 Mini Chassis
Full Weight Kit
R700 Right Hand Inlet
1300
Will meet if local to San Antonio Area.

BLUF- They/Them tranny or whatever goes nuts (no pun intended) and has road rage at a guy & his grandkids. Guy shoots They/Them/It

Leupold MK 5 3.6-18 - PR2 - FDE - Brand new in the box

No trades

Asking: SOLD

Will sell as package deal or separated.

Impact 737 short action, 90* bolt throw and a 20” Proof Research 22 Creedmoor Sendero Light Carbon barrel with around 500 rounds through it. Threaded 5/8-24 and 8 twist. Barrel was chambered by Mark Robles, Radix Precision in Omaha. Shoots really well with 75-85.5 gr bullets, I just don’t hunt a whole lot anymore.

Asking
Action only: $1150
Action with barrel: $1700

295pcs of Alpha 22gt Brass 180 2x and 115 1x. $265 Shipped

New unmounted 4-20x50 Atacr
Selling to move to a different optic.
$ SPF shipped
NO TRADES
Paypal F&F or G&S (Buyer pays the fee)

180$ per brick shipped…. Will sell in 4 brick chunks if you don’t want all of it

Lot 35559/502911 GONE

Lot 34559/503271 GONE….

Let me know…

Pretty much new. Stuck it on a rifle but never actually left the house. Changed directions with that setup and now no longer needed.

Will come with everything as new, rings pictures are NOT included

SOLD shipped

I have never been especially good at sharpening knives. The only sharpeners I ever use are the pull through ceramic type but I don't think they put the best edge on pocket knives.

What's a simple system that will get your knife 8/10 sharp with minimal skill? I am considering just collecting all my pocket knifes and taking them to a local guy that charges $5 but that's kind of a headache.

This will not turn out well, for the trooper IMHO. We will see.


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Used, but not abused. Purchased brand new directly from Nightforce - in excellent condition and does not have any mechanical or optical defects. The lenses may show signs of light dust in the photos, but they are scratch free. Never painted. Original boxes and all accessories you would receive with a new optic are included.

Selling to move up to a ZCO.

Shipping is included in the price - insurance coverage is optional at the buyers' expense.

Zelle (Preferred) - Venmo - PayPal FF accepted - Not looking for any trades.

1. Nightforce ATACR 5-25x56 F1 MIL-XT (C616) - $SOLD

Aero 10.5” 223wylde barrel, low round count - $OLD
Daniel Defense Iron Sights - $100
Aero .750 pin or screw gas block (new) - $OLD
.750 gas blocks, used (2 available, not pictured) - $OLD
Aero Ar10 standard charging handle, new - $18
Standard charging handle, A2 flash hide, picatinny qd sling attachments - $12ea
Geissele 2 stage triggers, high round count (w/ nsn and cage code)- $OLD
Aero milspec trigger, new - $OLD
Midwest industries loop end plate sling adaptor - $18
Aero A2 grip and buttstock - $25
Crosshair hydrolic buffer and spring - $75
Magpul bad levers, ones screw is getting stripped - $OLD
Commercial spec buffer tube - $20

What alternatives are out there in lieu of CB mount? My dad’s Ultra 7 gets stuck on the brake quite often, after not many rounds. Would going with Area 419’s adapters mitigate the issue? TIA

I just bought a dnt thermnight 335, and probably going with a patriot arms 223, for a dedicated night rig. Try to stay in it cheapish.

Next will be suppressor, got 3 in mind. Will be on either of my ar223s or 6.5cm bolt gun, and a 6cm once it's done. Eventually I will buy more suppressors, but for the time being just getting one of these, this is also my first suppressor.

Jolene s, cheapest of the bunch, good reviews and feedback

Enticer s, next highest, pew science seems to really like it

Abel theorem s, highest, sounds like a great company, from what I have read on here,and I can get a vented end cap, to make it more versatile between gas and bolt gun.

Is anyone else thinking in light of the last few days events that the US better make a hasty exit from NATO? Anyone can see that Zelensky is gonna try to goad Putin into attacking one NATO country and then that will trigger a response from us. Russia has attacked a UK cargo ship carrying weapons to Ukraine so its only a matter of time this escalates which is just what that little imp Zelennsky is hoping since he is almost out of bodies to throw out there.