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ES of 97?

So I had a load worked up for my 18" 6.5cm with 123 eld-x and 48gr of superformance. I tested the load back in probably... May, and it was spectacular, shot a half minute. Had a MV of 2919 over a 5-10 shot (I don't remember the incident) string, and excellent accuracy. So then I let my rifle sit in the closet with the ammo since without firing it. Yesterday I had time to run out to the range, and as I started moving out, my dope was obviously wrong. I backed up to 200y, confirmed zero, and it was good, and that's when I looked down at the garmin. I was getting 40fps variation from one round to the next. I ultimately ended up having an ES of 93 over 20 rounds. I've never even heard of such a thing. What could cause such ridiculous variance in velocity, other than bad powder measuring, (I am going to pull bullets and test powder charges just to be sure, but I'm very careful while loading, double checking the charge weights at least every 4 or 5 rounds). I doubt that's the problem. The brass was virgin sig brass. My buddy seems to think that it could be causing problems, but I've shot it for years without trouble. Where else should I look for this problem? Thank you

Blueprinting actions!?

Ok, so I've read a gazillion threads, heard a gazillion things, and I'm still clueless as to the math. In the old days, folks spent a lot of money blueprinting an old Rem700 action. Now folks instead buy custom actions (for probably less than a Rem700 + blueprinting cost).

But what does blueprinting really do? I mean, I've got a basic b-14 HMR which shoots (I'm a total noob at precision shooting, so I'm happy with my .7 MOA [5 round] groups at 100, but he rifle is almost certainly more mechanically accurate than I can shoot). So I'm trying to understand this concept.

1. If you have a reasonably accurate rifle, does blueprinting make a difference in raw mechanical accuracy? Generally folks say it is 90% the barrel anyway, right? (totally ignoring that it is 99% the Indian and not the arrow - I'm talking mechanical accuracy)
2. If it doesn't make the gun more accurate, what's the $*#(ing point of spending money blueprinting it?
3. I'm not trying to start a flame war or provoke folks. I'm trying to understand something that nobody has really been able to explain to me. Well, a couple of somethings that nobody has been able to explain:
a. What to custom actions really do, at a raw functional level, that box store actions don't (assuming a box store action that at least cycles and loads rounds reliably and you can get a smith to fit a Bartlein to your cheap ass action and get sub 0.5 MOA accuracy)?
b. What does blueprinting do to a box store action (Remmie, Bergara, etc)? Like, I don't care if they are filing this and sanding that and giving the action a good time from 3 succubi summoned from the 5th circle of hell. What does that handjob blueprinting actually do in practical terms? And how does that compare to a custom action?

Again, I'm trying to just understand the practical matters. To me, smoother doesn't mean much at all. Unless the "rougher" action has problems loading or ejecting rounds. In which case I don't care about the "smoothness", just the result of FTFs when in a competition. Things like installing M4/M16 extractors onto your bolt face don't mean **** to me either when the old fashioned crap (not advocating FUDness here, just not wanting a solution to a problem that doesn't reallyu exist) has successfully pulled out 5k pieces of brass over two barrel lifespans without a single issue.

Cheers folks, and again: If I'm stirring the pot, I don't mean to (for its own sake). I'm really just trying to understand the reason people are spending lots of money on custom actions, or are still blueprinting older actions, vs not.

SOLD Manners PRS-TCS Elite Altus Meadowlands - Matte

Manners PRS-TCS Elite Altus Meadowlands Matte Finish

Right Hand, Short Action, Manners Mini Chassis


In near perfect shape with Sike's Clutch, rear butt plate weight and spacers, and fore-end rail weights installed.

I'll cover shipping & shipment insurance.

No trades. PayPal, Venmo, and Zelle will be accepted as payment methods. Friends and Family or the buyer must pay all fees for a 'Goods and Services' transaction.

The first "I'll take it" in this thread gets the item stated.

$1400

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SOLD WTS: Rare Noveske Gen 2 Complete Factory Lower

Up for sale is this Noveske Gen 2 complete factory lower. This lower was built on 12/12 2011 and was part of a complete factory rifle. These Gen 2 lowers were low production and are hard to find, and this one is pretty much pristine. Forged and Flared. Geissele SSA trigger, H-buffer, TangoDown grip, B5 Gen 1 SOPMOD with add-on QD cup. $850 shipped to your FFL. PayPal F&F or Venmo.
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SOLD Lapua Center X 8 bricks all the same lot #

Like the title says, all the same lot of Lapua Center X. $165 per brick actual shipping cost (not an inflated estimate) is on the buyer or face to face in Central to Northern Arkansas.
I prefer no PayPal, but if that is all you have it must be discreet and any fee is also on the buyer.

All sold pending funds, thank you all for the interest
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SOLD Cdg beanland 6 creedmoor

I have 2 barrels for sale
First is a proof 25 caliber blank brand new still in the package just showed up a week ago see photo for details asking sold

Second is a mcgowen 6 creedmoor for a cdg 18 inches long 1:8 twist threaded 5/8x24 spun up by jon beanland has exactly 700 rounds on it only shot federal 107s gold metal match through it shot those at 2895fps still has plenty of life left just switching calibers asking 300 obo would trade for a 308 winchester prefit for a cdg

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SOLD MPA BA Comp w/ Accessories

MPA BA Comp for 700 SA. Tungsten in color in good used condition.

Update*
Weight Kit, Rails and Rail Weights have been sold. Price updated to reflect remaining components

-MPA Full Weight Kit -Sold
-MPA Competition Side Rails -Sold
-MPA Steel Rail Wights x 4 -Sold
-Gray Ops Aluminum Rail Inserts x 2 -Sold
-Area 419 14” MPA ArcaLock Rail - -Sold

-MPA BA Comp Chassis Only -Sold
-MPA Night Vision Bridge
-MPA 2 Round Holder
-MPA Bag Rider with Flush Cup

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Firearms Several of my guns for sale - Prices DROPPED

Just looking to punt the last of the guns I never shoot anymore. I can get better pictures of specific items for serious buyers so I don't clutter this entire post with photos.

Left to right:

1) Armalite SPR-1 AR-15 in great shape. This is the monolithic upper version that they put in the running against the Bushmaster ACR back in the day. You'll find other SPR-1 lowers but with a regular drop in handguard upper. This one is a little more rare and pretty sweet piece to add to your safe - $800 shipped

2) LMT MARS-L lower with Larue trigger, Larue upper with a Larue pencil barrel and a Geissele handguard. Sort of a RECCE-ish build that has just sat in my safe for a while. - $1,000 shipped

3) Dickinson semi-auto 12 gauge duck/goose gun. - SOLD

4) Components ready to build. - SOLD

5) Stoeger Condor Supreme over/under 12 gauge with 26" barrel and interchangeable chokes. I kept this around to have a cheap upland/sporting clay gun but hardly touch it anymore since I upgraded. It's a little goofy because the safety will kick on between shots. I messaged them and they were willing to look at it although it's outside the 5 year warranty, but otherwise I was just going to do a safety delete on it anyways. Great condition and maybe an easier fix than I think - $275 shipped

6) MPA built 6mm creed. The action is on its second barrel so there's around 1200 on the action. The barrel is like new and has less than 100 rounds on it. 1.250" straight, 26", 1:7.5 twist barrel. Has a TT trigger. It sits in a KRG W3 folder and will come with one magazine. I am keeping the optic that is on there. - $2,100 shipped

7) (Not pictured) - Glock 19 Gen 3 with an Agency trigger - SOLD

Trades:
- 6mm CM, 6.5 CM, 7 PRC, or 308 match ammo
- 7 PRC heavy SS barrel for a Defiance Ruckus
- 338 Lapua Ammo
- DBAL, PEQ15, or similar. FDE preferred.

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Weapon Light Rabbit whole

I know this has been beat to death and I don't want to dig that horse up and beat it again, so if there is a thread that answers this please share the link and I'll leave everyone alone. Want to put a Weapon light on my AR I own a Stream Light ProTac HL X PRO. Bought it a year ago never mounted it on the gun I bought it for. Now i see the Surefire scout turbo pro m640dft, looks great made in the good ole USA, alot of talking heads puffing it up (definitely for some $$$ gotta pay the bills!!) but damn expensive. My plan is run what I've got now to train etc... then see if need arises to drop the coin on the surefire. Is the Surefire really that much better?? I'm not a guy that has to have the best gear but I do like for my shit to work and be reliable. Any help guidance or opinions would be appreciated!!! Happy New Year BTW!!

Firearms Altus Foundation 6.5CM PRS Set-up.

- Built by Altus.
- Defiance Ruckus Tactical Action. (Black Nitride). (New Spring, Firing pin 12/2024).
- Foundation Genesis 2 Black Stock.
- Proof Comp Contour 6.5CM 26” F/L 1:8” Twist Barrel. (New 12/2024). (Black Nitride).
- T/T Diamond (Curved Shoe 2 stage) Trigger.
- Hawkins M5 Bottom metal.
- 21#’s as shown. (No Mags).
- (1) 10 and (1) 12 Round Accurate mags.
- 360 Precision weighted ARCA rail.
- APA Gen 3 Little Bastard Brake.
- ATS Competition Tuner. (Black Nitride).
  • Not sold with Scope, Mount or MDT Level system.
  • Shipped to your FFL. (Must receive from Individual). Insured.
  • $3750. Cash, Check, M/O. (Shipped after Funds Received/Cleared ).

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Awesome suppressor muzzle brake front end attachment by Recoilx

Shot a match with the owner of recoilx this past fall where he had one of his prototype units and it caught my interest. I had a chance to buy a unit this last week and took it up for some testing.

Overall it performs really well... obviously slight noise penalty but very effective. I felt like it was pretty close to the best of both worlds between shooting fully suppressed vs just a brake only.

I was able to stay on target in the glass through the full recoil off a few positions and can't wait to try it on a bigger 30 cal soon.

I was using a silencerco hybrid 46 with their 30 cal self timing brake.

On a gas gun 223 it had noticably less back pressure than just my front end cap alone which I thought was interesting.

Seems like a legit option for those of us with cans already vs buying something like the maverick straight up. I have been primarily shooting a tbac can but will probably run a can with a Recoilx brake on it this season.

Not affiliated in anyway with recoilx but I think the owner is a stand up guy from my interactions with him and I like supporting solid products from good folks.



@RecoilXBrakes

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