Been mostly out of shooting the last few years for work, starting to get back into it....

Proof's website shows their steel prefit barrels are Competition Contour, which at 26" length have a muzzle thread shoulder of 1.013" and a weight of 7lb 5oz.

Can anybody confirm the Dana 44 specifications of this barrel being larger/heavier than a Bartlein MTU?

Thanks

Congrats on surviving yesterday.

Now on to S&BJ / 50% off chocolate

May the BJ’s be sloppy & the steaks be cooked how you like them.

I am looking to build a long range rifle, to be used in competition (PRS) and target shooting. On a fairly tight budget and to be noted: these are based on the availability in Canada

• Zermatt action SA - 308 bolt face for 6mm BR. Another bolt face for 6.5PRC
• IBI heavy barrel, undecided on the length for either of the 2 calibers. Suggestions are greatly appreciated.
• MDT LSS gen 2 chassis
• Trigger tech trigger - Looking at diamond or special.

Decided the Zermatt action based on the price, in stock as well as in stock bolt faces.

IBI due to the budget, can get others including Proof but the budget goes beyond.

Chassis, looks ideal for comp.
Glass I am putting on hold ATM.

Advice welcome! Are there any cheaper options that I should be looking at? Know that there are definitely the expensive ones .

Thank you

Up for sale is my 6-36x56 Gen III Razor great scope looking for something a little lighter. It does have some scratches on the objective. Comes with MDT rings a level and everything in the original box except the throw lever.

Asking $2350 obo

CZ 457


$625.00 paypal via friends and family. I will ship USPS Priority to your FFL (must accept from an individual).

LEFT HANDED - LEFT HANDED - LEFT HANDED

CZ 457 22 LR Varmint (sku/model # 02392)

Rifle is factory with the following exceptions:
DIP Magwell P/N CZ 19048
DIP Extended Mag Release P/N CZ 19054
DIP Action Screws P/N CZ 19077
DIP Executive Bolt Handle P/N CZ 19080

Includes:
Boretech Bore Guide
Bradley Adjustable Cheekrest
Blue Force Gear Sling
Harris 6-9” BRMS Bipod w/ KMW Pod Loc
Area 419 30 MOA Pic Rail
(2) 10 round cz mags
(2) 5 round cz mags

Notes: Does not like L3I Magazines. Sample size of (2) tried. They worked great, just not loaded to 13 rounds, I.e. no issues if you wanted to buy some and run 12 rounds out of them. Round count is 1,965. It's had 200 rounds of CCI since its last cleaning (I can clean it for you prior to shipping if you'd like) Only selling because I'm going down the Vudoo rabbit hole. I just got my Vudoo 360 in and selling this as the Vudoo will be my NRL22 gun for now on.

If guns had “car facts” this is what it would look like. Any questions feel free to ask.

This is one of my personal builds I competed with in the Precision Rifle Series. I competed with it in one match and took top Gas Gun. It is an absolute beast of a rifle. I hand built this rifle from the ground up for competition. It will work for competition or hunting as I have taken several deer with the 6GT. I will give you all the load data for the rifle. It was broken in, tuned, shot one match, cleaned and put up on the shelf. If requested I can re-barrel it to a 6.5 Creedmoor as soon as my ordered barrel arrives. The build details are below.

Caliber – 6GT

AERO Enhances M5E1 Upper and lower w/16.5 inch handguard

3 Color Custom Cerakote Camo by 2ND Caliber Specialty Coatings!

Luth AR Grip with grip wrapping

Magpul PRS GEN3 buttstock with rifle length buffer tube, David Tubbs Flat wire spring.

X-Caliber 24″ Bull Barrel with Cerakote

Aero Adjustable Gas Block with a +2 gas system

MPA DN5 muzzle brake!

Rubber City Armory BCG with Multi Cal High Pressure Bolt (Nitride+ coated)

Trigger Tech Diamond AR10 Flat Trigger. (1.5lbs adjustable)

Lapped upper receiver

Bedded Barrel

Polished Feed Ramps

Completed a 35 step build process for all match rifles

You can take this rifle, put a scope on it and it will be capable of winning a match!

$2,999 OBO

Not Included: MDT Bag Rider, External Weights, Arca rail, bipod, Scope and Mount. Only the base rifle is for sale.

Please reach out if you have any questions!

Manners T4A SA w/ mini chassis. This is a catch a release from here. Got invited on an elk hunt next season so my build plans have changed.

Stock was modified some by previous owner. Barrel channel has been opened up to accommodate M24/40 contour. Ejection port lengthened slightly. Chassis slightly modified to accommodate Triggertech safety lever. Previous owner used lighter tan paint to cover areas that were modified. There are some scratches on the cheek riser pictured as well but those are the only imperfections beyond the modified areas. Bipod rail w/ QD mount and two round holder included.

$650 shipped. PayPal f&f preferred but can discuss other options.

Seekins Havak Slam | Drifters Gear​

Just released at Shot Show this year. Send me a PM or give us a call if you want to get one of these on back order. We have all of these on pre-order as soon as they were released. $4650 plus shipping.

○ Action: Havak Element
○ Barrel: Mountain Hunter, spiral fluted 5R 416 stainless steel
○ Trigger: Trigger Tech Diamond
○ Color: Mountain Shadow / Desert Shadow
○ Finish: Anodized armorer black action, Cerakote black barrel
○ Stock: Seekins SLAM chassis
○ Threaded Muzzle: 5/8 x 24
○ Integrated recoil lug, 20 MOA rail, and bubble level
○ M16 style extractor
○ 4 locking lugs, 90-degree bolt throw
○ Removable bolt head (Magnum or Standard)
○ Extended cartridge overall length (COAL) allowing up to 3.14" in 6.5 PRC, and 3.9" in long action

Short Actions:
6.5 PRC / 21”/ 1:8 twist (5 lbs 4 ounces)
.308 Win / 16”/ 1:11.25 twist (5 lbs 1/2 ounce)

Long Actions:
7 PRC /22”/ 1:8 twist

New TriggerTech Diamond for Remington footprint actions. Flat shoe, no bolt release.
$225.00 shipped
Venmo preferred

From one year ago, I was completely lost.

A very sincere thanks to everyone here over the last many years...I appreciate you. It's been a genuine journey of personal development going from what I thought was "it" (all the stabby activities) to now.

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Without everyone here (or there or everywhere fucked right off), I wouldn't have developed the mindset I have to have found this woman, this gift from God to test me against all my previous sins.

Without you, we few, we happy few, my 275 bench pressing, many bow kills and Quigley Ford assaulting Band of Brothers... for he today who does not shed blood with me today shall me not my brother......


I thank you.

God is great (Allahu Ackabar?) Inshallah?

Whatever.



Sincerely thanks (in no particular order) to @Dirty D @TheGerman @armorpl8chikn @308pirate (Honorable mentioned because zero fucks). @ArmyJerry @Bender @Redmanss. Etc.

It's good.

Thank you.

If you feel I wronged you, literally fuck off and there's a reason you weren't picked at dodge ball in elementary school.

Curious how these new actions wear compared to a custom action.

Are any of you in the land surveying business- specifically residential property surveys?

M 72 LAWS ROCKET 66 mm Light Anti Tank .. (HEAT) rocket , Vietnam era till recently.
Launcher in pristine condition w sample projectile.
Unfired and ready for your 4 th of July party.
Has original Manual in excellent condition ..
PayPal preferred and will ship insured ..
No ordnance in the sample rocket ..

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I bet he won't take a single 9 to the chest

There are so many good choices, it's hard for me to choose. I'm now able to say the community has good choices, because we get really good data presented to us by well known and well regarded industry voices. But it can be overwhelming.

Instead of presenting my list of selected devices and asking you for help with a down select on the choices, instead allow me to present a use case and a set of pre-defined "desirements". I think that would help me pick up on something that I might have missed. That's happened recently.

I'm a retired engineer that fusses endlessly about The Details. I was a good engineer. It does not help when faced with so many good choices. I mention this because that experience has taught me that building machines is an exercise in compromise. Tradeoffs.

So, the use case is 30 cal rifle: 308 / 6.5 CM / 6.8 SPC / 300 AAC BLK / 7mm Rem Mag Maybe, but this would be the upper power limit. Not 338 level or above. Range 500-600 yards, no more. No PRS work, but precision is always a bonus. "Only Accurate Rifles Are Interesting", but I dont compete even casually. No Mag Dumps, I dont have access to that level of fun. At the lower end of that power range is the 300 BLK likely on an AR Pistol. This is the Suppressor sub forum, so of course Mouse Farts will be part of the use case. Will it see 556 use? Likely, but not primary. I figure a 30 cal can on a 556 rifle is a safe use case for the can, given the power range already mentioned. Concussion and Recoil Reduction at the range and hunting, and Home Defense indoors on a shorty AR. Thats a pretty broad power spectrum.

A "hard use", or FA rating, is desireable but only from the perspective of less things to remember about a barrel length, or shooting schedule, or things going Tango Uniform because I let it get too hot. Not likely, but also not out of the realm of possibility as my memory gets older. Hard use cans usually get a bigger BC designed into them, and that usually improves suppression performance and opens up the accessory selection some, too. So, thats a trade.

Ti cans are a difficult selection for me right now. I dont have any, and all I have are the YouTubes to judge by. Some Tubers speak to the Ti Sparking Effect. Some say all the cans exhibit this always for the can's lifetime, some say it's a temporary thing (being mostly over and gone after the 200 shot break in period), some say it never goes away. Some say the effect only appears when the can overheats, some say a Hybrid Steel / Ti is The Way. I have face to face discussions with behind the counter experts that I trust that tell me they have witnessed Ti cans ripped apart from abuse (outside schedule conditions). OK, Duh. I dont know what to believe. My Take on Ti cans currently is, I dont have to have this feature of Lightweight in the Tradeoff considerations, OR it can be relatively Low on the Desirements. My Bottom Line on Ti is, I Know I Dont Want to deal with Sparking during some of my Use.

Back Pressure: Im not convinced that High Flow cans are The Way forward. The Tubes I've seen demonstrating them look like there is still plenty of gas in the face while using them. There is likely a recoil and concussion reduction, and there is the feature that says No Rifle Gas Adjustment needed. Which would be good positives. All my stuff has adjustable gas, so this High Flow / Low Back Pressure becomes a Dont Care for the operating system conditions. They are noticably Noisier than other types. That I do care about. If you present a High Flow choice, it will be given equal consideration. I'm Listening.

Hub / Bravo Interface: This is Must Have. The can will not be mounted permanently, but mobile between firearms.

Modular: Pretty much a Dont Care to me. It means more seams that can fail, and O-Ring Maintenance. The plus side of course is, more adjustment choices on a single F4. Thats a pretty good trade.

Suppression: Job One, right? More is better. Of course.

Size: Ah the other side of the Suppression coin. You can play with Physics and try to tame it, but you must play the game. Smaller is better. I would put an outer limit on length at 6", for the can only. Thats a pretty long tube for the lower end of my power use case, with a mounting system in place. Some of these new all-steel designs are approaching Ti can weight, which is good. Weight is a Dont Care. Except if its made from Depleted Uranium. Then You Hump It. Diameter is a Dont Care. Rifle Sights now sit on top of big stilts these days, what with 55mm front objectives and 2" standoffs for AR sights.

User Servicable: Dont Care.

Removeable End Caps: Dont Care.

Dead Air: No Thanks at this time.

Cost: Dont Care. Not Gold Plated, OK?

So, what do you think? What cans should I be considering?

Happy V-day from Texas

Seems pretty funny the sudden uptick in shootings lately…. False flag events keep happening and not surprised seeing how election season is coming

Democrats in Boston are urging people to house migrants in their homes to help with the overflow in the city. I say suck it.

I was mentioned in Meat Eater Magazine in reference to the Lilja barrel I chambered for the author. I thought it was pretty cool.

Developing story but caught my eye today. Only additional info in the article is the following:

"Fox News Digital obtained the notice sent to congressional members Wednesday, which pointed to "an urgent matter with regard to a destabilizing foreign military capability that should be known by all Congressional Policy Makers."

Curious if this will turn out to be a dud or something real, maybe we'll find out? Curious on everyone's thoughts as always. Link below.


House Intel Chair warns of "serious national security threat", urges Biden to declassify

Morning all

Having decided to change over to Arbor Press reloading system I'm having an issue finding a press.

Looking at temporary alternatives I came across a hand drill press on eBay


Given I can buy a 200mm length of 40mm diameter aluminium bar for less than £10 means a press for £25

Anyone done anything similar?

Lol, don't know how well it works, but love the advertising. I'll probably try it out because it gave me such a good laugh.

I mostly hunt pigs and coyotes, and I’m starting to get the itch to stretch my legs a little more with long range target shooting, ELR, and trying PRS for fun when I can get time away from work and family.

I already have a .308(sig cross) for my lightweight hunting rig ( I plan on trying out NRL Hunter with), and a 300wm (browning bolt) for my longer range big pig gun. The browning is alright, shoots around 1moa, but it’s really light hunting focused and has a thin barrel that doesn’t string groups well when hot.

I have plenty of ammo invested for both. So I’d like to stick with those two calibers as much as possible.

I’m about to pull the trigger on a MPA BA PMR pro 2. Trying to decide between long action 300wm or short action 308. But for some reason, in my head, it doesn’t really make sense for me to spend 3k on a competition .308 rifle when my chassis sig cross already shoots sub .5moa (w/Sako ammo) and it probably won’t really scratch that long range itch of easily shooting 800+….. but I also am tracking that 300wm isn’t the ideal cartridge for PRS for obvious reasons….

I guess, if you were in my shoes. And only had enough money to spend on one rifle for a year or two.

Would you buy a 308 MPA and run it PRS?
Or
Would you buy a 300wm MPA and run it PRS, and ELR? How silly would it be showing up to regional PRS matches with a 300wm? Is it possible to practice enough where a 300wm can compete closely with the more popular calibers?

Selling a NIB TriggerTech Diamond RH Flat shoe trigger for Remington 700 style receivers. Box is still sealed.

$250 TYD. PayPal F&F or buyer covers fees, or Venmo. First “I’ll take it” followed by a PM wins.