word i heard back during testing was sig lied about repair parts availability. ??? guess glock will win again. not a glock fan but they have over run the int'l HG market for a reason. i want grip safeties so i have XDs. if all i could get was Glocks wouldn't be world ending. their DD214 discount is pretty cool.

TTT

EddieNFL said:

The vast majority of LE should be limited to DAO handguns…with a long, heavy trigger pull.

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Or like Barney Fife with just one round.

mjh30 said:

I have a bering super hogster as well, but again lack of an lrf makes range estimation very difficult, no issues with the cv25 but getting rid of both and just having a sv35 on a dedicated platform for thermal hunting is sounding a lot more appeasing.

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Having gone LRF, can't go back. Would be like giving up HVAC.

This helped me out

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good luck eliminating med school and teaching hosp dog,cat and pig labs. that was tried years ago by a group called vivisectionists. went nowhere. a case can sure be made for early animal experimentation. there are many opinions on that. they don't HAVE to be cruel for cruelty's sake. Fauci oked,they prob were. he is a well know mass murderer of long standing.
i think we should use convicted violent offenders. doubt that would fly. would get out of control fast like in Nazi Germany and China today. could ask for volunteers to get more privileges or reduced sentences? might end up with more convictions of the innocent or non victim "crimes".

RIP the Shakeawake P320s

Personally, I would get up to speed on reloading. While some of the factory ammo is very good. If you are wanting consistent hits out at that distance, you will have to reload. Just had this scenario happen a couple of months ago with a couple of friends. Have the guns, and the range, but they shot good factory ammo. Couldn't hit a thing with factory ammo. Tried a friends ammo that was tuned to his gun and was making hits at a mile.

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Out of curiosity, has anyone field tested their mounts? I run my A1 out to 1000yds regularly and ran into an issue with my ICE mount. Before I chase one of these down, I’m hoping to get some function confirmation.

Moto41 said:

Curious what you would do different for an ELR gun?

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My ELR Heavy rifle is a 36" Bartlein with a 1.7" shank on a 1.75" Bat Model L in a Manners LRT-2 chambered in 375 Cheytac. It's 38lbs all in (Ko2M legal). I'm finishing up my ELR Light Rifle on a Bat CT action and 1.4" shank 30" Bartlein chambered for 300 Norma in a Manners F-Class. My ELR Tac Div rifle is a 30" Bartlein with a standard 1.20 shank to make weight, also in 300 Norma on a Defiance Ruckus repeater in a Manners T4A. These aren't built for 1k, they're built for 1 mile and 2 miles. If I'm just playing inside of a mile, the difference between a simple 6.5 creed and a 7 PRC is barely more than just powder and recoil, so if you're going big and trying to reach out there, go big and reach out there.

Awesome! Gonna be a bunch on surplus. Cheap!

Edit: Nevermind...Since they were fed owned they have to be destroyed. Thanks Hillary.

Mike Casselton said:

There are a lot of Sheriffs in Florida who treat criminals exactly the same with one exception. They don't go on the news about it. Or, at least rarely do so.

Not gonna lie though, I love Grady's briefings.

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My neighbor states the the Brevard County Sheriff lives down the street from us. I thought it was just a deputy, there's a sherif's SUV parked out front often, but she believes it's the actual sheriff.

Bandit320 said:

Post #5 yesterday:

Moto41

Yessir. I guess I use the term “PRS” and it doesn’t apply. Let me re-phase: I want to be able to stretch out there and extend my abilities and hit targets.

He’s not talking about PRS matches.

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As I stated, his build list looks like a PRS rifle build list, just in a long action magnum cartridge... So if he's not talking about PRS matches and doesn't respectively need a PRS rifle, his build list shouldn't look quite so much like a PRS rifle...

We can shoot long distance and ELR with a lot of different stuff, but this thread has been an absolute dumpster fire ping-ponging around between LR and ELR, PRC's, 300 NM.... and it's still looking like a PRS type build, just in an undersized ELR Light div cartridge...

Of course, yes, we do need to contextualize expectations - when @Moto41 says they "want to stretch out there and extend [his] abilities," that's pretty vague. A guy can extend abilities by building a 22LR with 100 mils of mount/ring angle and shoot at 500-1k. A guy can "stretch out there" by shooting a 6.5 creed at a mile. Or none of that might be "stretching out there" in his mind, and he might want to be banging a 40lb 375 Cheytac out to 2 1/2 miles. Naturally, we're talking about very different price points for these builds, but talking about a PRS chassis and a 7 PRC just doesn't really strike me as really extending beyond what I can successfully accomplish with even a lowly 6.5 creed - unless something needs to bleed upon arrival. If you're going big and trying to reach ELR distances, 300 PRC would be the smallest cartridge I'd play with, and I wouldn't be in an MDT Elite chassis.

Are you wanting a repeater? Single shot? A 1 mile capable magnum, or 2 mile capable super magnum? Wanting something which is designed to deliver the highest hit percentage opportunity for the distances you're considering, or wanting something that looks like a more conventional tactical rifle which won't perform as well as the purpose built rifle?

Gunfighter14e2 said:

Trump and his people are now turning into what we voted against in the first place. Talk about bait & switch, this is a classic case.

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it looks like Trump is sinking himself and MAGA. i heard more weapons to Ukraine? deeper involvement in ME (for the benefit of Israel)? the tariffs remain a question mark to me anyway. int'l finance is too complicated-prob for a reason. the debt continues to grow. no action against the obviously corrupt elements. poss exceptions to deportation of some wet backs? continued stonewalling on Epstein? that gets a lg amt of attention vs some of the other stuff. for a distraction? nothing for real on JFK,RFK,MLK. hate to say it,hope to be wrong but looking like we bought another fake out.
to me all this should be obviously damaging to the admin. so,why is it let slide? should be painfully obvious as an agenda killer. unless the agenda has not changed in any real way?

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Family friends had a daughter the same age as my brother. They were eight or nine and my brother said, “Hey, Myra. Wanna see a match burn twice?” Well, she did and he showed her. Saw her at my mom’s funeral about 55 years later and she still had the scar.