BurtG said:

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Would look good in a side chick

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Lawless said:

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Ankeny said:

Good grief. Cracker Jackius.

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Mike Casselton said:

Orange Juiceius

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LeftyJason said:

Orange Fantaius

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The D said:

Bananaius

Edit: I like this game, it’s fun

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Arken7mm said:

They're packing bolt-action rifles because they can't afford proper stopping rifles in double barrel (Heym, Holland & Holland) in 470, 500 NE or 577 Nitro Express which are the preferred Dangerous Game stopping rifles and are the proper rifles for stopping charges against large wounded dangerous game with the instant double trigger/second shot in case the first shot is a miss.

There's a big difference between a "hunting" rifle and a "stopping" rifle. Bolt-action rifles can get people killed. Pursuing a wounded dangerous game animal with any bolt-action rifle whether it's in 308 or 500 Jeffery is risky and stupid. I'm not arguing or disagreeing about the power of the cartridge or accuracy that comes in bolt-action rifles. Bolt-action rifles are great for hunting/sniping but, they're not for defensive speed during a charge in close proximity...

And yes, I personally would LOVE to have a Heym or H&H double barrel in 500/577 NE. It's not in many people's budget due to the fact that double barrel rifles, the good quality ones, not cheap poorly made Cabella's ones can cost $30k to $100k+. I'll take a semi-auto with 20 to 30 rounds of 556, 7.62x39 or 308 in Barnes TSX over a hail mary one shot bolt-action rifle. And, Alaskan State Troopers and local law enforcement in AK kill large brown bears with AR15's in 223/556.

This thread was created way back in 2013 because a guy in AK killed a charging brown bear with his AK74 in 5.45. Did he get fined/sued by the state for using an AK74 in 5.45 to stop a charge? In Alaska, does the state have a law requiring a minimum caliber restriction to use in self-defense against brown bears? Why would the state fine/sue anyone who shoots a brown bear in self-defense if the bear charges regardless of firearm/caliber? So, if you use an AK47 you get fined but, if you use a 50 BMG it's all good? Or, does it have to strictly be grampa's 30-06 made of wood featured in Field & Stream magazine? Phil Shoemaker killed a brown bear with a 9mm when it charged his clients...

https://buffalobore.net/images/PhilShoemaker.jpg

Heck, a guy killed a polar bear with a 44 mag revolver...

Polar Bear Attack Stopped with a .44 Magnum in Alaska

On August 16, 2014, a Fish and Wildlife employee shot and killed a polar bear which was attempting to enter the tent they were sleeping in on Arey Island off the coast of the North Slope of Alaska.

www.ammoland.com

Robert E Peterson killed a polar bear with a 44 mag revolver too...
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Big Game African hunter explains why bolt-action rifles can get people killed to try to stop a charge. He almost got killed by a cape buffalo charge using a bolt-action rifle...
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EddieNFL said:

Tobacco stick, fly swatter, granddad’s razor stop and some I no longer recall, but never flip-flops. Neither mom or dad ever wore them.

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Threadcutter308 said:

I have to admit to being confused. If the jaws in a 4 jaw chuck are all independent of each other, then any mis-alignment/not "running true" is due to the operator not dialing everything in properly, is it not ? (this is assuming a rear spider is used and it is also dialed in properly/low to zero runout).

Ahhh, OK, I was not familiar with the True Bore system. Just watched a video of it. First reaction is that it's expensive (but, you get what you pay for) and it looks to be well made. Also, in their video, they show a 6 jaw scroll chuck (the jaws move together and are not independent). I'll admit, it looked like a nice setup.

If the 6 jaw chuck is accurate and the work piece can be clamped with negligible (or zero) runout, then I can see where this system makes sense to whomever wants to spend the coin on it. Compared to non scrolling/indepenent jaw chucks, just being able to drop the work piece into the chuck and not have to dial it in manually would be a huge time saver.

So anyway, I tend to think that the True Bore System (as nice as it is) primarily compensates for an out of alignment headstock and variable tolerances in the chuck mounting and the chuck itself.

I dunno, I guess that if you want to drop the coin on the True Bore System and you want a scrolling chuck, the Bison is probably as good as any. Having said that, why not just buy the scrolling 6 jaw from True Bore ? That way, if you have any problems, they can't point their finger at another manufacturer's/supplier's chuck.

As you can probably tell by now, I'm a knuckle dragging dinosaur and have been using a 4 jaw non scrolling chuck with a spider on the back end of the headstock and dialing everything in manually. Yes (particularly in comparison to a scrolling chuck) it's a lot of work. I originally decided to go this route because of the flexibility. Yep, it's a lot more work to dial everything in each time I use it. But, I can get everything dialed in to about 3 or 4 tenths on each end.

Best of luck to you and post up some pics if you go the True Bore route.

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TurdFerguson said:

Looking at the Harbor Freight central machinery 6ml cleaner.

Currently using a large Dillion tumbler, needs rebuilt loud as fuck etc.

I’ve been having trouble getting carbon off brass when I dry tumble. I’ve been using walnut hulls…. Does the sonic cleaner do a better job?

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Mike Casselton said:

Orange Juiceius

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