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Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

Charolais can be temperamental. Mostly a PITA from what I hear. I'll pass on them just in case.
That’s not a full charolais from what I can see. I bet it’s a cross breed. My charolais are pretty gentle. But that video also tells you one reason it wound up at the auction and why it’s about to go serve some customers at McDonalds. Life is way too short for crazy cows.

Did Steiner just quietly build the MPO we have all been asking for? H6xi

My belief is that if my primary optic is so powerful on the low end that I need to run a piggy back red dot for close-in targets / speed, then I may as well run a 5-25x for my primary optic (assuming I am not using night vision and therefore optic length isn’t a concern).

The 3-18x range, for a semi-auto, seems like the worst option available as it is too powerful at the low end to be useful close and quick, and only tops out to 18x on the high end so spotting impacts with tiny 5.56mm bullets may still be a challenge depending on the backdrop.

So for me, it is a 2-10 which prioritizes speed over spotting impacts or a 5-25 which prioritizes impact spotting over speed and requires a red dot.

-Stan

Have you ever used a 5-25x56 on a 14.5" carbine? It's pants on head retarded.

It's honestly a bit much for a AR-10. The 3-18 or 4-16 class of scopes are quite nice for AR-10s. I really don't enjoy having a baseball bat on top of my rifle.

I generally don't enjoy benchrest shooting with 12-15# semi-auto rifles. The 5-25s are simply too long and heavy for semi auto rifles built for dynamic shooting.

Nothing wrong with a dot + scope that isn't a 5-25. I think a 2-10 plus dot makes a lot of sense. It doesn't make sense when the 2-10 doesn't have a useable reticle and is as long and heavy as a 3-15 or 4-16.

Of course a 2-10/12 that is unusable until 4x that is also as large and heavy as a 3-18 won't sell well. It's a design philosophy problem. It was never going to sell well. That doesn't mean a well designed scope will also sell poorly.

The old 2.5-10x42 nxs is not perfect, but it has the correct design philosophy. What are the choices in this space? A $2600 Leupold? 😂 The market for $2600 Leupolds is quite small, that's a Leupold problem, not a MPVO problem. Mark4HD with crap reticles and questionable tracking? I could do the TMR, but at least update it a little, please include some numbers on the reticle so we don't have to count the hash marks all the time? Other than the NXS, the mark 4hd and mark 5hd there aren't many choices for reasonable size and weight MPVOs that are also usable across the entire mage range.

It should be a simple formula... Smaller and lighter than a mark 5hd 3.6-18 or atacr 4-16. Usable reticle across the entire mage range. Most MPVO offerings today do not meet this criteria, which is why they fail commercially.

There aren't many sub 24oz, sub 12" MPVOs that are also usable on 2-4x.

Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

No 10mm…

Ackshually, that’s pineapple in a plantation environment. Here’s pineapple in a natural environment:

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And since you don’t like pineapple on pizza, here’s pizza on pineapple:

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Those can't be pineapples. Walked into a classroom one day and the teacher was teaching the kids that pineapples grow on trees. 🤣🤣🤣

The Unofficially Official Sub-Caliber/“Micro Bore” thread!

@USMCSGT0331 … just noticed it’s you who I a responding to in the latest updates of this thread!!

PM me if you want or ask anything! You have been a huge help to me with my MK 13!!! Glad to help and I know you will do an amazing rifle!

BTW one of the things that I have co templates is doing a contender barrel in sub caliber. Both for load development and learning… it’s a cheap platform and several companies do custom contender barrels in, well, anything! I think I corresponded with Bulberry a few years ago nd they said that if I had the barrel, they could make it.

I still have my .14 reamers and go/no go “somewhere.” I had to buy a set to get my barrel done at the time.

I also have the sub caliber reloading manual. I “think”’it covers right down to the ‘10’s. I don’t think I just got the .14 manual. So if you want to see some old data… hit me up!

Cheers, Sirhr
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The Unofficially Official Sub-Caliber/“Micro Bore” thread!

Post 1106 in this thread has info on the project, but all the links/photos have expired.


I shoot it occasionally and it is pure death on woodchucks. But only out to about 120 yards or so. The energy bleed off on the bullet is significant!

I am fascinated by the .10’s and the OP’s set of barrels is a great start! Even if you only build 1 or 2, barrels are great trading materials for “other” stuff in the community.

Been a while since I shot the .14. Last 4th of July, I think. I swapped scopes on it and re-zeroed. Went to a fixed 10x as nothing larger is needed at those ranges. At least I think I re-zeroed….

I’d have to check!

Sirhr
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