I didn't read through the whole thread so please forgive me if this has been done. Have you tried some Federal Gold Metal ammo with the 168 gr SMK and with the 175 gr SMK? The three 308 Win I've had over the years would shoot one of those good.

You're dot target looks pretty good. I don't know why the other target seems more scattered.

As was mentioned, some of the difficulty could be your technique/fundamentals. Personally, I sure had to work at it. I'm a lot better now but still not great.

later ..... this is what I used to learn the Fundementals. This is kinda dated but the basics apply.


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Pete Cefalu said:

Why wouldn’t you just reach out to Shoot-Long? Brian is a great guy.

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I did
We chatted about 3-4wks ago, very nice guy.
Said he’d send one out
But here I am

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Blwxxzy said:

Trying to order a barrel and it’s saying the coupon code expired July 11, 2024. Just wait a little longer for it to get up and running?

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Mike Casselton said:

Military.
Probably due to the limited amount of ground time, your aircraft most likely don't sweat up inside the tanks.

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You don’t do it straight after refuel as you need to leave time for the water to settle in the bottom of the tanks.
Boeing say you need to wait 4hrs after refuelling, or running the fuel pumps before doing fuel drains.

However large amounts of water isn’t usually an issue these days as all the newer aircraft have jet pumps that pull fuel out of the lowest part of the tank. I can’t remember how much unusable fuel is usually in each tank, but without these pumps (not really a pump, just a Venturi from the normal pumps) water does definitely collect and need the sump drains done daily.

For sure the hippies and retards love this shit. Look at who is going to be the next mayor of New York City.

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Redfisher60 said:

How would that compare to the Ares?

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The Ares, Midas, and Helos are really on par when it comes to optical quality and are all surprisingly good for chinesium.

I’d just get the Midas and save the $$, their illumination is about worthless anyway. In all 5 of the samples I’ve had it was daylight bright on the lowest setting and the knob is pretty stiff.

What Spuhr is that?

Both are sold.

Topgun117 said:

Yes sir that is mine. Ops A3 is a sweet one. Topped mine off with an 8541 vs the unertl I only know of two that have been cloned including mine so far.

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maybe I'm being dumb... but do you have a link to you build/thread?

Thanks!

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels

Didn't want to have to add to this thread.

Prayers up for me and my wife Heather.

Riding home alone from work yesterday. Dry roads. 45-50 mph. On motorcycle I had to swerve to try to avoid tboning a minivan that pulled out in front of me to turn across traffic. I was in right lane of divided 2 lane road they were coming from my right. Was wearing all motorcycle gear except for pants including full face helmet and decently tall Sidi boots. Not the sport bike or hard ones.

Broke tibia and fibula. Some road rash on right outside forearm, and knees. Surgery this afternoon sometime. Our names already in Houston and Layton temples.

Josh Umsted said:

Bergers and br2 primers should improve things.

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I'll be surprised if you see much difference. Try the bullets for sure.... but it's highly unlikely - like win the powerball chance - that CCI BR2 primers will do anything.

I tried BR4 primers in my .223 last year to see if they tightened up my ES/SD values. A buddy of mine and I were grumping that we both see .223 values about double what we see in our larger calibers; he gave me a couple dozen BR4 primers to try in place of my CCI 400s. This was already a sub-half-MOA rifle/ammo combo. Performance all the way out to 1000 was great. We just wanted to see if the benchrest primer mattered.

It.Did.Not.

Our feeling is that the small volume of the .223 case magnifies any inconsistencies or flaws in any component or process. My buddy is a reformed F-class shooter who has been known to cut stick powder kernels to achieve 0.01-grain precision in powder weight and has the scale to make such precision consistent.

If I was you, I'd be looking for a buddy with a different rifle and see what your ammo does in it. Something is going on to cause your issue, and I'm not sure it's all about the ammo. I have never messed with .308 aside from my son's iron-sight M1A National Match, but all three of my centerfire calibers (.223, 6BR, 6.5CM) were .7-MOA performers @100 yards AT WORST through eight different barrels on six different rifles, regardless of what components I used*... and most combinations were .5-MOA or better.

The only time I've run into an issue like yours is with a Rim-X .22. A long-time now-retired friend whose centerfire barrel work was well-respected cut the barrel for me - under protest. He said rimfire chambering is a much more persnickety fiddly aggravating endeavor compared to centerfire, but he did it because of our long relationship. That rifle has never been a consistent performer. It will shoot a bughole group at 50 or a 3/4-inch group at 100 and follow it up with a "pattern" instead of a group. It's sat in the safe for two years, even the chassis and scope have been deployed elsewhere for the time being. At some point, I'll either have the barrel rechambered, get a new barrel entirely, or just sell the thing.

I feel your frustration. Been there. Good luck.
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* Caveat: bulk 55gr .223 ammo is 2-4MOA ammo, regardless of platform

super solid optic here!

great scope here!

Unfortunately, this stunt will actually land her some votes. Which is more disturbing than what she’s actually doing.

Prayers up for me and my wife Heather. On motorcycle I had to swerve to try to avoid tboning a minivan that pulled out in front of me to turn across traffic. Was wearing all motorcycle gear except for pants including full face helmet.

Broke right tibia and fibula. Surgery this afternoon sometime. Our names already in Houston and Layton temples.

Watched it with my son. First movie I've gone to see at the theaters in probably 5 or 6 years.
We both really enjoyed it. If you know anything about Formula 1, I felt like Lewis Hamilton had a lot to do with the character.....almost a bit of a biography of him. Not knocking that.....just making an observation.

BTT