Skater368 said:

Old thread, but relevant to my question. I have a Zeiss S3 6 x 36 on my MPA in 6.5PRC. I zero'd and set the zero stop with Hornady 147 ELD. Rifle really doesn't like it, so I tried the Norma, Golden Target 143 GTX, which it really likes. I seldom shoot at paper, but I did to verify the rifles preference.

It shoots just a bit higher that the Hornady. Now that my zero stop is set, I can't lower the reticle past the zero stop. I read the manual and it only says how to set, not reset it. I tried to pull the brass adjuster under the turret out and it didn't change anything. ???

Ideas?

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mikeinfwa said:

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BurtG said:

Sooo
You got one more upper / handguard laying around I could buy ?

I *need* it

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RAVAGE88 said:

I have a picture somewhere of a large round count group out of my nine twist at 400 yards; the group was round and right at three inches. I was shooting next to another V22 with a 16 twist, shot by AJ. From the 16, there was no consistency to placement on target.

Looking at TOF data between the two twist rates explains it all. We were both using LCX.

MB

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JR1200W3 said:

But how do you "know you're rifle"? It doesn't come from bench shooting.

One of the most important qualities of a skilled long range shooter is the ability to shoot your same zero from as many fucked up positions as possible. I've recently been on a kick training for PRS matches by shooting from various props on a ProTimer. I start off shooting a prone zero with a gun. Then a 5rd zero from a prop without time pressure. Then another 5rd group, all fired as single shots from ready in a ProTimer with the goal of shooting the same .3-.5" group in the same POI as an aggregate of 5 rounds fired in less than 12 secs each. All at 100yds in paper. And this is with a bolt gun. We all know large frame gas guns are harder to shoot more accurately and I would argue maintaining a zero is also more of a challenge with these guns. So intermixing mechanical inconsistencies in this problem is not helpful. Competitive shooting has skyrocketed since I started in 2007. The bar has been consistently raised and it must be an absolute bitch to get started today compared to 2007. The top 10% are constantly searching for the extra 1% to gain a competitive advantage. If the concept is that you're adjusting your data by .2 or .3 dependant on what position you're shooting in a given stage...fuck that. That is a dodo bird technique. Having the confidence in yourself and your rifle holding precision and accuracy is step #1 to evolving and correcting to center from one target to the next using single shots. You need that confidence and irrefutable proof from preparation.

I'd recommend a shooter that fancys himself some sort of guru get out and truly challenge himself and his rifle using metrics. Which is basically what competition is.

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Bigjake83 said:

I feel like this topic is blown way out of proportion, yes not all uppers are created equally but at the same time you need to know your rifle.

Next time you're practicing at the range with a Bipod and rear bag, shoot from the Prone, Bench, Barricade and standing with tripod.

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MWAlex2 said:

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Bacarrat said:

Head to head, the 300NM has less drop and windage then a 338LM when shooting the heavies. I run a 26" 300NM pushing 245gr LRHT at 2953FPS.

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cooper_257 said:

416 Taylor with barnes 350gr ttsx works good on elk

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Pbgt said:

Not fair...How come YOU get a stalker and the rest of us don't??

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JustSendit said:

Heya can I ask why this is helpful? I kind of know ARs but Heli Coil is unfamiliar to me as are handguard screws.

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Dude in GP said:

Sadly i agree. Bought a Timberwolf package with Premier Reticle scope from them. Then bought a Coyote in .260. When i bought the coyote, i specifically asked for a 45moa rail for the Timberwolf, and they processed my order, but never sent the rail requested. Reached out to them and was ghosted. The reason i bought the EFR from them is because of the tariff war going on right now made it very cost prohibitive to order from Badger or Sol.

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