These are helpful comments for sure. Field of view is important to me. That's one reason I hate the nightforce scopes I have had. How much of a glass quality difference are we talking. Can anyone compare the xtr to another brand of scope.

Bullfrog08 said:

Is #13 Jodie Foster? Sure looks like her!

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Jodie Foster was never anywhere near that attractive

TahoeDust said:

#4 lists Zermatt under actions and .243. #5 Lists .308 and 7-08. I'm guessing I would want #4?

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I use Sinclair but I think the difference is the diameter of the bore hole internally, externally they are the same.
If your rod is a 30cal diameter then you would need to use the #5 to fit it.
BUT you can use the smaller diameters rods in the larger bore hole. I use the Sinclair #4 equivalent for everything including my 30cals as I have a 22 cal rod. It has a little more wobble room but still keeps it centered enough that my jags aren’t going in sideways.

shootertom said:

The pads can be easily changed by manners.

Not really sure what you mean by quiet though.

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This was about to be my exact reply. I have both. There both great but quite different. If you want the adjustable cheek then the lrh of course. I had to change ring height the first day on my ph since that’s really the only way. My lrh I ran my typical ring height and then I made spacers to get the cheek height perfect. I sell these spacers here on the hide as well and there very popular just for this reason of fine tuning. Sawtooth has a full length arca for both if that’s important to you, it was for me. By quite maybe I’m thinking like dead on the shot not a feeling of vibration? If so they are both rock solid for how light they are. 7ss in my lrh and 6.5 creed open light nrl rifle in my ph. Other then the recoil difference they feel the same on the shot. Hope some of this helps.

superde said:

None of my guns stay in the safe cocked, and most have the bolts out so that everything fits, lol.

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Unless you’re rotating the shrouds by hand with the bolt out to let the firing pin down the cocking ramp then it remains stored under full compression.

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Standard Remington 700 SA. I had a TL3 in it as well as a Zeus. Both fit fine

AMGtuned said:

Theoretically, there should be a difference. When using a muzzle device, it eats up a lot of volume in the blast chamber. Pending cartridge, that could help or hurt.

In the case of 300bo, pistol calibers, and other low pressure things; the brake or FH could help, by taking up extra dead space (volume), and by making (faking) the 1st baffle closer to muzzle exit.

But something like a mk18, or 300wm, or other high pressure round, that large blast chamber can make a major difference, and is needed for proper expansion and performance.

This is not an "I'm right, you're wrong", because host weapons change everything. This is just my experience after personal testing, research, and development. And likely some meter results that I'll have to dig up as source material now.

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Don’t bother looking for me as I don’t really care as I know what my cans do on my rifles but maybe the OP does. Mine are all .223, 6ARC, and .308 ARs that they were tried on. I use DT on my precision rifles.

Blkbird6 said:

I’m ideally looking to get close to 3000fps , but I will need to do a second ladder / pressure test with heavier charge weights.

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Probably do-able (or close, anyway). I was getting 3000 from 230s out of a 27" 1:8. You're running a 33", I believe.

Blkbird6 said:

Maybe try scrub that throat out. Sounds like what I experienced with a carbon ring. A norma can run much harder than that.

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Yeah, I suspect that as well. It's past time to clean, so it's next on the list and I'll scope it first. I'm running 88.1gr in my 338NM pushing a 300gr Berger with no hint of pressure.

DarnYankeeUSMC said:

Their side of the line is moving closer to Kiev every day. But don't let the facts interrupt your fantasy

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That is indeed a sad fact!

I've warned folks for years that the Hammer and Sickle banner was on the march westward, and that the Helsinki Surrender was the highest treason ever committed by a US President, in or out of office, ever in American history.

Thankfully the Free World has strong leaders that can fill the void left by the absence of American leadership, and keep the fires burning until we can once again staff the role of POTUS with a man of substance and character who represents American values!

wvfarrier said:

I read it straight through every year. If you want a really good Biblical listen, The Unseen Realm by Dr. Michael Heiser is phenominal. Its focus is on Scripture from the viewpoint of the times they were written without modern interpretation skewing the true meanings.

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I was just about to mention Michael Heiser in my post above until I saw you bring him up.

I love his podcasts "the naked Bible" many of which are on YouTube.

I do think though that going over his "unseen realm" and "reversing hermon" studies/books are good prerequisites before diving into the podcasts...otherwise the listener will have a lot of playing catch up to do.

Alphatreedog said:

Changed Employers after 20 yrs .
Now a traveling Service Tech .
Massive side benefit is listening to the Gospel whilst I drive for hours .

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When I make road trips is the best time to get into a deep dive podcast/YouTube presentation from a Biblical scholar.

Well, the USSC is not helping by constantly subverting the Admin

$1450 shipped

Milspec Longhorn said:

Thanks. What mount?

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Warne XSkel Super High, awesome mount

Alphatreedog said:

Changed Employers after 20 yrs .
Now a traveling Service Tech .
Massive side benefit is listening to the Gospel whilst I drive for hours .

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I read it straight through every year. If you want a really good Biblical listen, The Unseen Realm by Dr. Michael Heiser is phenominal. Its focus is on Scripture from the viewpoint of the times they were written without modern interpretation skewing the true meanings.

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Up with price drop

DarnYankeeUSMC said:

Do you think that the Pope actually thinks/believes he is holy or does he just revel in the endless supply of young alter boys that go with the job?

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FIFY

Some of them probably believe. The not-quite cold one was an infiltrated communist activist from the ‘70’s - 80’s. He was there to worm his way into the leadership and bring down the church from within…

KGB and DGI were supporting these little church and secular commies all over our hemisphere… including Bernie and Tim Kaine and lots of others…

See “destroying us from within” thread.

Sirhr

Women and democrats

DeathBeforeDismount said:

You are aware NF has a mil/leo discount as well that's between 25-40% of real MSRP...not crazy inflated bullshit numbers like vortex.

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^ Yep.

This is why my last scope was a 7-35 ATACR and not another G3 Razor. I actually got the NF for a couple hundred less than I can get the Vortex now.

Armed Tren De “fancy-lettuce-sounding-name” member living with New Mexico judge and wife…. While training with suppressed AR’s! In video!

Sirhr