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India vs Pakistan
- By LRRPF52
- The Bear Pit
- 399 Replies
Neither side wants to tick off the US, but we also have to be aware of Chinese and Russian interference.
Remember Yuri Bezmenov? He was stationed in India by the KGB as part of their ideological warfare efforts there. Indian media has been infiltrated and shaped by Russian IO for generations, because India is Russia’s largest FMS customer.
China didn’t like Trump supplanting legacy US-China trade deals with India, so the Pakis may very well be right in saying they didn’t execute the terrorist attack. That could have been a Chinese false flag operation giving attribution to Pakistan, so that India would retaliate and the predictable subsequent events happened to destabilize India and foreign investors for a bit.
We went from, “Yay, let’s move factories to India from China!” to,
“Woah, look at that fireball!"
It’s very Sun Tzu and requires almost no effort from China, with massive results in their favor.
Remember Yuri Bezmenov? He was stationed in India by the KGB as part of their ideological warfare efforts there. Indian media has been infiltrated and shaped by Russian IO for generations, because India is Russia’s largest FMS customer.
China didn’t like Trump supplanting legacy US-China trade deals with India, so the Pakis may very well be right in saying they didn’t execute the terrorist attack. That could have been a Chinese false flag operation giving attribution to Pakistan, so that India would retaliate and the predictable subsequent events happened to destabilize India and foreign investors for a bit.
We went from, “Yay, let’s move factories to India from China!” to,
“Woah, look at that fireball!"
It’s very Sun Tzu and requires almost no effort from China, with massive results in their favor.
India vs Pakistan
- By LRRPF52
- The Bear Pit
- 399 Replies
Wall Street guys are painfully-ignorant about modern aerospace systems, but some invest in being briefed from a financial standpoint on where to buy and sell stocks. They have no way of vetting the information themselves because they aren’t technically-savvy, and have no real reps in studying the history of technical progression in that space.
Either way, the lessons learned the hard way by countries who only have access to 4th Gen will be continually-painful, and since hardly any of the legacy major FMS export countries invested in 5th gen tech, it places the US as a sole-source provider in the aerospace defense market for the technology.
The Euros window-dressed their 1970s designs for the past 40 years, and didn’t even go into IOC with them until the 2000s, same as F-22A. Instead of recognizing the massive disparity, they continued to lie to themselves about the relevance of 4.5 Gen with upgrades, downplay the 5th Gen advancements as “Lockheed marketing terms”, while deluding their air forces and customers into thinking they had something special. They even priced themselves at 2x of F-35A, which is insane.
This was 2019 (Russia has reduced its air forces inventory to 1200):
So now you have:
I. US manufacturing 5th Gen in high rates (1170 F-35s so far, 195 F-22s), 4.5 Gen finishing up or being upgraded to higher standards, going into 6th Gen fighter production and down-select for USAF and USN (F-47 and F/A-XX USN) and open stealth bomber production (B-21A)
II. China manufacturing J-20 5th Gen, 4.5 Gen Sino-Flankers, prototyping more 5th Gen (J-35) and their attempts at 6th Gen
III. France manufacturing 4.5 Gen at very low rate production (~300 made so far since 1986)
IV. UK/Germany/Italy/Spain manufacturing 4.5 Gen in low rate (609 since 1986)
V. Russia manufacturing imitation 5th Gen and 4.5 Gen at extremely low rates (Su-57 only ~38 airframes maybe, 151+ Su-35s)
The global military aerospace & defense sector has undergone dramatic shifts in reduction of mass production from the legacy countries who dominated that space, aside from the US.
China is actively focused on their own military strategy, so 5th Gen are prioritized to the PLAAF right now, not FMS. France got moved to 2nd-largest FMS exporter over Russia, only because Russia dropped its production numbers so significantly.
Remember Russia used to crank out MiGs by the thousands, and France cranked out Mirages by the thousands for FMS from the 1950s-1980s.
Either way, the lessons learned the hard way by countries who only have access to 4th Gen will be continually-painful, and since hardly any of the legacy major FMS export countries invested in 5th gen tech, it places the US as a sole-source provider in the aerospace defense market for the technology.
The Euros window-dressed their 1970s designs for the past 40 years, and didn’t even go into IOC with them until the 2000s, same as F-22A. Instead of recognizing the massive disparity, they continued to lie to themselves about the relevance of 4.5 Gen with upgrades, downplay the 5th Gen advancements as “Lockheed marketing terms”, while deluding their air forces and customers into thinking they had something special. They even priced themselves at 2x of F-35A, which is insane.
This was 2019 (Russia has reduced its air forces inventory to 1200):
So now you have:
I. US manufacturing 5th Gen in high rates (1170 F-35s so far, 195 F-22s), 4.5 Gen finishing up or being upgraded to higher standards, going into 6th Gen fighter production and down-select for USAF and USN (F-47 and F/A-XX USN) and open stealth bomber production (B-21A)
II. China manufacturing J-20 5th Gen, 4.5 Gen Sino-Flankers, prototyping more 5th Gen (J-35) and their attempts at 6th Gen
III. France manufacturing 4.5 Gen at very low rate production (~300 made so far since 1986)
IV. UK/Germany/Italy/Spain manufacturing 4.5 Gen in low rate (609 since 1986)
V. Russia manufacturing imitation 5th Gen and 4.5 Gen at extremely low rates (Su-57 only ~38 airframes maybe, 151+ Su-35s)
The global military aerospace & defense sector has undergone dramatic shifts in reduction of mass production from the legacy countries who dominated that space, aside from the US.
China is actively focused on their own military strategy, so 5th Gen are prioritized to the PLAAF right now, not FMS. France got moved to 2nd-largest FMS exporter over Russia, only because Russia dropped its production numbers so significantly.
Remember Russia used to crank out MiGs by the thousands, and France cranked out Mirages by the thousands for FMS from the 1950s-1980s.
Optics Scope clean out: NF, kahles, Mk5, Vortex ect
- By Nomad909
- Buy - Sell - Trade
- 8 Replies
Life circumstances have changed, cleaning out personal gear. All must go, if I'm way off on price, politely tell me. Im posting a bunch of items so pics are generalized. If you're a serious buyer and want more information and specific pics, plz ask. Im not on this often, I'll try and check every 24hrs.
Public 'I'll take it' trumps all
There's items with mounts and accessories in the pics, unless it's stated in the title, they're not included
State item in PM title
Prices are all 'Shipped' with NO INSURANCE. Any insurance that is desired is on the buyer.
Optics:
[ ] Used Leupold santium 15x56 (7/10 $800)
[ ] BNIB Vortex razor uhd12 (10/10 $1100)
[ ] Vortex razor spotter (8/10 $1k)
[ ] Leupold BX-4 range HD (9/10 $1100)
[ ] BNIB Impact 4000 ($1K)
[ ] Kahles k64i w/ sphur & A1st lvl (8/10 $1950)
[ ] (Brand new never used, came without box) Kahles skmr4 DLR (10/10 $2800)
[ ] Used Silco radius, no cable (7/10 $700)
[ ] Nf beast h59 (8/10 $2800)
[ ] Nf Atacr 7-35 mil C (9/10 $2750)
[ ] Bushnell xrs2 h59 blk (9/10 $800)
[ ] Bushnell xr2 g3 brn (9/10 $800)
[ ] BNIB Mk5 7-35 PR2 ($1850)
[ ] BNIB Mk5 5-25 PR2 FDE ($1950)
[ ] Mk5 5-25 TMR w/ rings ($1700)
[ ] BNIB US optics TS-25× JVCR ($700)
[ ] Vortex hst 6-24- (9/10 $500)
Public 'I'll take it' trumps all
There's items with mounts and accessories in the pics, unless it's stated in the title, they're not included
State item in PM title
Prices are all 'Shipped' with NO INSURANCE. Any insurance that is desired is on the buyer.
Optics:
[ ] Used Leupold santium 15x56 (7/10 $800)
[ ] BNIB Vortex razor uhd12 (10/10 $1100)
[ ] Vortex razor spotter (8/10 $1k)
[ ] Leupold BX-4 range HD (9/10 $1100)
[ ] Kahles k64i w/ sphur & A1st lvl (8/10 $1950)
[ ] (Brand new never used, came without box) Kahles skmr4 DLR (10/10 $2800)
[ ] Used Silco radius, no cable (7/10 $700)
[ ] Nf beast h59 (8/10 $2800)
[ ] Bushnell xrs2 h59 blk (9/10 $800)
[ ] Bushnell xr2 g3 brn (9/10 $800)
[ ] BNIB Mk5 7-35 PR2 ($1850)
[ ] BNIB Mk5 5-25 PR2 FDE ($1950)
[ ] Mk5 5-25 TMR w/ rings ($1700)
[ ] BNIB US optics TS-25× JVCR ($700)
[ ] Vortex hst 6-24- (9/10 $500)
Optics Eotech EXPS3-4 HHS V with G45 magnifier
- By 81sfo
- Buy - Sell - Trade
- 1 Replies
Lightly used Eotech exps3-4 with G45 magnifier comes in original box and ppwk and sticker. Everything is in excellent condition.
I also have a Unity riser and magnifier mount for $200 when buying the Eotech and magnifier.
I easly get hits at 750 yds with 14.5" 5.56 m4a1 carbine using 69,and 77 smk in lake city brass and xbr 8208 , with the dot hold overs.
*No Trades needed
* Not looking to sell the Unity stuff before the optics sell.
$1,100 shipped Zelle or Discreete PPFF
$1,300 shipped With Unity riser and magnifier switch to center mount
I also have a Unity riser and magnifier mount for $200 when buying the Eotech and magnifier.
I easly get hits at 750 yds with 14.5" 5.56 m4a1 carbine using 69,and 77 smk in lake city brass and xbr 8208 , with the dot hold overs.
*No Trades needed
* Not looking to sell the Unity stuff before the optics sell.
$1,100 shipped Zelle or Discreete PPFF
$1,300 shipped With Unity riser and magnifier switch to center mount
