Best caliber for big game at 400 plus yards
- By KYAggie
- Bolt Action Rifles
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MIL or MOA?the "what is the best scope for under 500 yard shots " is next
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Nice video, good work. I use a APA Fat Bastard. Takes a bit of tuning but when you get it adjusted properly it seems to mitigate a lot of that.
Preach it brother!!This isn't a response to the above, but my membership level disallows me to post directly. I'm not aware of another way to address this group without starting another thread that may not be noticed.
I've been watching from the sidelines, intensely interested in rimfire precision but heretofore unable to play for various reasons. I bought a Terry Cross stock from Paul Parrott in 2019, talked with him about a build mimicking Mr. Cross's Sentinel S.W.S. rifle and using his bottom metal. I was poised to jump into the Vudoo pool when the pandemic and other stuff hit. Now, I'm thinking about reentering and having built what's likely to be the last rifle of my life.
Aside from the entertaining Peyton Place aspects of the thread, the mechanical design discussion has been fascinating. I'm a retired physician, so numbers don't scare me, but Mr. Bush's and others' detailed analyses are fascinating. You're covering things I've never needed to think about before--never knew such questions occur.
So...let me drop an ignoramus's thought here: I like shooting a lot. As Jeff Cooper said, trenchantly, "the purpose of shooting is hitting." That's why all this business is going on: Folks here want to hit targets that are, for their ballistical milieu, tiny and far away. That's what I want to do. What I don't want to do, and what I'm not equipped to do by situation and by inclination, is to fiddle with my rifle. Yes, of course, I clean my guns. Yes, of course, I've learned to disassemble them to a reasonable extent and do kitchen table parts exchanges. But at the bottom line, I want to set it and forget it.
What I want from an M5/M5x, is a finished package. I'm willing and happy to pay for lot testing, because unless one includes a barrel tuner in their setup (thus tuning rifle to whatever ammunition they can get into the magazine), that's the only way to find what'll work. But I don't want to jigger with the magazine catch, the follower, or anything else. Within the limits Mr. Bush sets for workable ammunition, I want everything to go, first pop out of the shipping box. I want nothing to be adjustable, because with this action mated to an approved barrel with an approved chamber and approved bottom metal, the magazines, the mag latch, nothing should need tuning. Mr. Bush hasn't said that outright, but clearly that what he thinks is proper product and production design.
Maybe I'm being impertinent. Maybe I'm butting in where I don't belong. But maybe what I said ought to be said.
Anyway, thanks for your time.
instant DRT in many places in Fl for 1 of several states.
Not sure how to check that. I know it has a loather barrel.What’s the year of manufacture?
I didn’t say it sucks, I just think there’s a reason that 44ish objective scopes usually top out around 18x. Maybe they can overcome..Maybe we should wait to see it before saying it sucks? Lol
I’m gonna use a little bitty short barrel 20 inch only because I’m gonna have a can stuck on the end of it and use it for hunting. My main concern is is a short action going to be a bad decision I’d like to use that Zermat short action for the hunting gun and the bat M long on my bench gun. I believe it’s a 32 inch barrel. I’m not sure it’s not been built yet either.I have a 33 inch Krieger barrel. Shooting lights out. H1000 60.2 Grain with Berger 184 is shooting 0.5MOA.
2899 FPS / 60.2 grain H1000/ 33 inch Krieger barrel
This video made me get away from top ported brakes.The amount of barrel movement in the fixed brakes is
The rotating brake shows much much less movement. Pretty cool.
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Any numbers yet?I have ordered a 7PRCW barrel and do have a 7PRC too. Will compare if 7PRCw is better and report back.
Big Green slings some 3 barrel 50s.They look like pieces of pipe. The only three barrel Gatling I know of is the U.S. .50 that we built up at GD. GAU19 IIRC. And those on the Hind are big honking cannon diameter tubes. That look like black iron plumbing pipe or PVC pipe to me.
The Hind Gatling was a 12.7mm which was the Soviet.50 BMG equivalent. It was definitely four barrels.
Edit… forgot about this guy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M197_electric_cannon
Hang on. I was wrong. Forgot about this one Another GD product. 20mm three barrel. Probably enough of that hardware floating around that they might have stuck one in!
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