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Yo Dude, I'm here.We have had great success in getting 11.5 - 12 mm 10 shot groups out of quite a few rifles (13 twist 1.250 Mullerworks). I think once ammo starts to get consistent, we will see better 10 shot and 20-shot groups. 20mm 100 yard groups are attainable and all this with Repeaters, some Vudoo and Rim x. I think the barrels have come a long way, we have certainly learned a few things to gain repeated accuracy. I would be curious how much better the results could get with a precision-minded specific action. I have one 10.9 MM single-shot Vudoo with a 1.250 16 twist Mullerworks. Maybe Mike can pull something out of his hat to see how good a .22 can be.
I have been told By David Tubb that his friend Lones wigger had a legit 6 mm .22 and that was a ways back so either ammo has gone to crap which I suspect is the case or???
@RAVAGE88 you're up bud
Since @Tokay444 and @jbell (jbell has owned and maybe still owns some of the nicest 22s I know of, including a Sauer) were 100% correct to mention the Feinwerkbau, Elmiger & Grunig, Walther, Anschutz, etc., I've revisited a few things I've discussed with the U.S. Olympic Training Ctr and AMU International Small Bore guys. The bottom line is, and it's related to what I posted about innovation and the pursuit of accuracy and precision, true development in what we're interested in has stalled as it relates to pushing toward better.
There are a couple of reasons for this, but in mentioning these reasons, it's likely I'll hurt some feelings, but that's not my intent. I said something before about going backwards, which means that things are being repeated, again. I'm guilty of this as well, but Remington wanted what they wanted, but fortunately, they were better at filing bankruptcy than they were at executing to plan. So, a new company was wrapped around what I had, along with two issued patents, but still a lot of 40X DNA due to the plan with Remington. We all see where that platform is now and who knows what will really happen, but as I've stated, it's of no consequence (other than those that have no idea where their $$$ is).
So, we have a near 40X action about to land, along with a new receiver that uses a CZ style bolt rear and V-22 bolt nose, fire control, etc. So how far has this really come? Frankly, and again, not to minimize anyones efforts, not very far (this is reason number one). The second reason, is the refusal to depart from construed conventional wisdom. What I've "heard" here is, the community agrees that more precision and accuracy is desired by way of innovation, but, don't talk about changing anything. There's still mention of a R700 footprint, which is highly constraining to any attempt to truly innovate, and don't talk about straying from the long list of available parts, components, etc., that are R700 compatible.
But, I get it, the approach makes a lot of sense, so for the reasons I mentioned above, I'm still doing a R700 physical footprint action, but that is the only likeness to the platform. And I'll always use my original AICS approach for magazines that is now used by many, to include Anschutz (they told me at SHOT a number of years ago they'd never do such a magazine
). I'm also doing three other rimfire actions to capture a number of other things.As it relates to what you mentioned about the Wigger 6mm (.236) gun, I'll need more info before I buy into that, but I can say that pursuing the capabilities mentioned by Brock and Jesse is certainly doable in an American made system. We just have to think a little differently about what it means to achieve it.
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