Placed the order on the hux flow 9k.

Thanks for the help everyone.

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You and my wife would get along quite well.

So my buddy who deals with military surplus picked up this Cadillac Bin from Fort Riley.

I bought it from him to store my firewood in.

Had to build an additional roof for it, as it wouldn't last long with 4-1/2 feet of snow sitting on top of it during the Winter.

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mr_snipers_hide said:

How are you enjoying it? Where did you manage to find one used? I don’t see many used Tikka’s around thinking of something similar, thanks!

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She's very smooth, and I'm shooting sub MOA at 200 so far. Haven't stretched her legs yet...I found it online

No regrets really, if there was one it would be my first rifle but it's with a friend and he has taught his son on it now so I feel it has a good home. It is a 10/22 ruger purchased in 88 or 89 for right around 100

You are certainly up there in pressure if not over. Trust your primer pockets, not an untuned software.
23.6 is about where I stop testing myself because I know thats where lapua and lc get loose pockets at in a bolt gun. Your crapier brass in a gas gun is a worser case proposition.

MO Fugga said:

As far as expenses, the beauty of. 458S is the brass life. It does not stretch. I have brass that has been fired 15+ times without annealing or trimming. Primer pockets still tight enough. Not to mention bullet selection is the most versatile. 450 is at home in straight wall hunting states only, IMO.

It'll never be SAAMI approved, and factory ammo is expensive, but worth it.

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450BM won't be SAAMI approved? Or did you mean the 458 SOCOM?
Page 156 in the SAAMI spec

There are a couple of things I like about the 450 BM over the 458 Socom; the first is the brass construction. The parent case of the bushmaster is the 284 Win cut down at the shoulder whereas the 458S is a necked down pistol case, the 50 AE as I recall. The max pressure the brass on the 50 AE handles is about 35ksi-38ksi. However the Bushmaster retains the hardness spec and case web dimensions of the parent 284 Win brass. So it can be loaded to 60ksi

For AR15 use that's a wash because the gun design tops out around 36ksi for both of them (it's slightly better for the BM but not enough to really argue about). In a bolt action though, you can load the Bushmaster HOOOOOOT. For someone hunting in a straightwall area or just trying to prove a point the effective range of the 450BM is significatnly improved over the 458 Socom due to this.

In bolt guns the other nod to the Bushy that I see is the mag feeding. I regularly take a 308 action that is already mag fed and we stick a 450 barrel on it, tweak the mag lips a tiny bit and send it to the owner who can now run a 4 round mag wtih 1 in the chamber in pretty much any straight wall state in the country. The 458 doesn't like to feed as readily from AICS mags with the heavily rebated rim.

Markbsae said:

She is more into cars. That's why she has a Shelby GT350. She's happy. I definitely got that for "her" )

They were certainly an excellent design for their time but I personally have no interest in owning a heavy, not easily concealed single action pistol that holds 7+1. They have the best break on any trigger at the range but I'd never carry one. I'm far more into modern pistols.

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In my defense, I started with 1911s before the internet. No one told us they were too heavy or big to carry concealed so here I am 50 years later.

Over the past several years I competed with a Sig for the capacity. Shot just enough to maintain proficiency with 1911s. Just for grins last week I set up a mini stage (12 rounds) and ran it five times each with a Sig and my carry 1911. Almost 0.5 second faster average with the archaic overweight fudd gun.

I understand your pain. Saturday I will be shooting "her" pcc in the local match.

@Buffalobolt Consider removing your email in this thread. PM instead. You're gonna get blown up by the scammers and spammers.

Ledzep said:

While this is kinda fun, it's probably more true than most people will know...

Typical match bullets (all brands included) show roughly 5-15% ES on net drag across the recorded Mach regime. Drag variability induced by the weight variation in this topic is on the order of 0.5% in the worst case (lightest vs. heaviest). It also doesn't affect MV proportionally to the weight variation.

For example, 0.5gr spread 30x each light and heavy for a 109gr bullet resulted in a 0.3fps velocity difference when tested.

Obviously if you fuck it up bad enough you can have weight variation cause problems, but for the most part what you see is well under 1% ES and it doesn't really manifest itself into anything that other factors don't already outweigh by orders of magnitude for down-range hit probability. YMMV, JME/JMO yada yada.

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Why does the product Hornady makes to directly compete with the Berger product does not pass the acid test on the field then?

I know you posted this a few months ago but since it got revived… as a engineer of 6 years at hornady you should be able to put your finger on the actual backend problem if the easy to id problem of weigh is not it.

Why a Berger “reddit” load plugs in and is accurate at 105 yds, and shoots watermark at 6-950yds off the chrono almost every single time but thats extreme luck with Hornady?

Here a thought, what if really good shooters argue they cant shoot a difference because they shoot a bullet that after making the correct change in hold, the bullets just…go somewhere else?