Bakwa said:

Have you tried any other subsonic rounds?
How bad was the XTP and SubX?

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If you swab an oiled patch through the bore prior to the first shot the First Round Drop goes away with the SubX. I don't think I'd worry about any of them shooting past 100 yards for more than target practice but if you need head shots inside 75yd the oil trick does make a big difference.

I got a need for the lite if it’s still available

corruption in Hillsborough county or OMG maybe Tampa! i am shocked beyond words. but we at least know that Dade co and Miami have corruption free LE.

use.. The Force .
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Mr. F said:

Here a thought, what if really good shooters argue they cant shoot a difference because they shoot a bullet that after making the correct change in hold, the bullets just…go somewhere else?

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agreed...this was difference i mentioned in post #70

i saw small differences in match scores, but the real differences i saw during zero or dope confirmation/truing days over years of different barrels and lots of bullets

a range local to me also hosts monthly belly steel matches with 1.5, 1, and 0.5moa steel...prone, no time limits, just accuracy focused...and it was noticeable when engaging the 1moa and 0.5moa plates

if a shooter is missing that 2moa barricade target at 500 yds...99.9% chance it aint the bullet, but going for that 4th and 5th target on the KYL/TYL rack...if you can shoot well enough, id bet they'll notice a trend



side note since match scores are being mentioned as a metric...i always take match scores (low ones) with a grain of salt...lots of factors outside of how well the rifle shoots in that score

there are good shooters
and then there are good shooters who also shoot great under pressure

...lots of people can do things in practice, they fumble in a match.....but if someone cant do it in practice, they damn sure cant do it under pressure at a match (outside of random luck)

I miss my 5.7 bolt gun, I know where it lives and who has it, maybe one day it’ll be back

Rerun7 said:

For real! We used to stack up like a swat team at the front door of the house to get inside after dark to try and let as few in as possible, haha.

Bug spray is like binaca to those little savages..

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We did the same thing

DeathBeforeDismount said:

When can we buy your bath water?

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Anytime, $15 gallon

New 2025 4Runner TRD Off-Road with upgraded wheels and tires, plus the spare.

Waiting to get through the gauntlet of getting the paperwork processed, and I've already been at the dealership for 2-1/2 hours now.

Oh, also getting a stainless steel skid plate installed while I wait...




The air dam, roof rails , and running boards are coming off as soon as I get home.

Markbsae said:

They’re great at the range. I’m 5’6” and carrying one would be miserable for me. It would do me no good if I didn’t bring it with me. If something bad goes down I want to start off with 10 or 16, not 8.

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If that’s what you shoot best. That's my mindset.

Didn't make it in time for sunset yesterday, so I got in a night flight and a pic of the old High School before it's torn down.

Ttt

I think ICE needs to hire some of Ukrainian TCU to show them how you snatch a person

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FatBoy said:

This throat is pissing me off. 105s at 1.720” to ogive are fine. 95SMKs at 1.675” won’t chamber without jamming the bolt out of battery requiring a motor to eject it. It’s pulling bullets occasions as well.

Edit: been doing some testing and the virgin Norma brass dummy’s stick. If I small base size them, they load and eject fine. Oddly enough, the dimensions seem good, and are way under a fired case in OAL to case mouth, and they’re .010” under fired headspace and belt line. Fucking strange… but it’s repeatable so there is something to this.


Case gauge will be here in a couple days, but this shit is frustrating and I’m running out of time to have my shit ready for the event Oct18.


As far as shooting:


105 shot fine. Groups improved over the course of three groups, starting around 1.5 MOA and dropping to under MOA, though in fairness the smallest group was only three shots as I was running out of rounds and needed 600 yard dope.

The four 95SMK I got to shoot went into .77 MOA, so about .8 MOA.

Hits on steel we’re clearly audible to 500, 600 I couldn’t hear but could see impact splash.

I am seriously thinking about throating this thing out about .050” just to be able to mag length and not jam the bullets. At least some bullets besides 80s.

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I wouldn't be scared of hurting anything by throating it out if done properly. We've shot all variants of factory Hornady in +.050 and +.100 throat 6 arc chambers and they have all shot very well, just as they have with the saami throat.

AmmoFort said:

Was it reasonably priced?

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I don't know what he paid? Sold it to me for $750 delivered. If I hired a flatbed tow truck to deliver it, that in itself would have cost me $1K+

Big BD fan here as well. I have the Pro's in my fog pockets and LP4's on the A-pillars, some on my SxS as well—great lights for a good price, folks.

Hayden#69 said:

Wish they were Amber.

Hayden.

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Super easy lens change. I'd buy these, but already have a pair.

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I run H4350 with my Berger 85.5s in my 26" barrel.

Without documentation such as the CMP paperwork, everyone will automatically consider it a put together.

Also, they repo every part on them now and unless you are good with them you will never be able to tell the difference in repo parts vs original. You can Look at the barrel drawing number to see if it's an originla USGI M1D barrel. But it still doesn't mean Ordnace put it together without paperwork. I've owned dozens of loose USGI M1D barrels and screwed them on receivers for friends to shoot in the vintage sniper match. The drawing number of a real USGI M1D barrel would end in "555". The early 1950's M1D barrels you have to remove the handguard to see the 555 on top of the barrel. The 1953 M1D barrels will have the 555 in the barrel channel and visible with the op rod pulled back.

Again, even if it has a USGI barrel that does not mean it was put together by Ordnance without paperwork.

You have to be careful on the M1D as a lot of guys build them with all repo parts. They sell a mount you can machine a regular M1 Barrel to accept and make a clone of a M1D barrel. Then they repo the mount, cheek pad, and scope.

Short of having someone that is good with these look at it, be safe and assume it's all repo. Even if the rifle was real with paperwork, a lot of guys finish them with repo parts. Most of the real M1Ds sold were sold loose and the parts were added later. Some used repo parts as they are much cheaper.

tekmann2377 said:

My rifle is not a custom rifle. It is a Ruger Gunsite Scout with a 1/16 twist and 16" barrel. It shoots pretty well with loads using the 250 FTX. It did not shoot as well with the XTP Mag and 395 SubX. The 250 FTX seems to both feed well and shoot the best of the bullets I have tried. It would meet your accuracy standards but just barely.

I would be satisfied with the velocity and accuracy for deer size game with the 250 FTX and my combo for <200 yards.

My suggestion regarding 308 instead of a 450 BM is that I think the terminal effects, ballistics, and trajectory are better shooting something like a 308 with a 125 Accubond than the typical 450 BM load.

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Have you tried any other subsonic rounds?
How bad was the XTP and SubX?

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