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Why are AR15s so difficult to shoot for the average shooter?

you sure? I disagree. Well I do suck, so there is that.

Budget build with chrome lined 16” barrel. It’s a cheap gun. But, all at 100 yards, same gun, me shooting, same day.

Slap together handloads with 55gr vmax
Got this group, and it will do this all day, with good ammo.
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Then some Yugoslavian or some such junk fmj stuff that always goes bang…

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And another brand of junk. All groups had the same poa.
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Just to demonstrate that the junk people shoot is often to blame. Add to it their absence of fundamentals.
This is typical of the average person buying the cheapest ammo they can find.
You win…
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Still contemplating a savage 10fp in 308.

I’d take the Savage over a Bergara every day of the week. At least if the Savage doesn’t shoot you can spend $350 on a Shilen from Northland and fix it yourself instead of going back and forth with the dick heads at Bergara that will tell you everything is ok when you have a clearly defective rifle.

I bought a Savage Ultralight 308 on clearance last year and it’s probably the most practical rifle I own maybe second to my 223 DMR, and quite possibly the last bolt gun I’d get rid of. I can put a long range optic, brake or suppressor and bipod on it and have a 10lbs+ rifle suitable for casual target use or I can put a lightweight scope on it and have a 7lbs or less hunting rifle or anything in between. I could also dump it in a chassis and make it weigh even more. It shoots absolutely lights out with everything and has has zero extraction or ejection issues so I’ve got no complaints about the thing even if it is a salvage.

Reduced Recoil?

I wad wondering if anyone had any luck with reduced recoil loads in 300 PRC. I have noticed that since my shoulder surgery the full power loads are starting to cause a flinch response. My 308 and my 30-06 even with the hottest loads does not seem to bother me but the PRC really seems to irritate it. Which sucks since I just got my new Origin build from PVA.

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Hmm I may just do that

I just saw your buddies over at Jax Gun Repair the other day. I may ask them to see if they can find me one in their crates lol

They’ve been listing some but most are Remington made ones that should be avoided like the plague.

The new Ruger guns are the shit. My 357 classic and 44 SBL shoot groups like a really good bolt gun and the fit and finish is better than anything Marlin or Remington made. I’ve got a 45-70 trapper as well that I had to have a few months back that I haven’t shot yet.