A question on this impeachment inquiry thingy

Kevin McCarthy kinda got the dems on record supporting impeachment.

I wish all of these leeches would just die. They are a drain on our country. And wasting oxygen.

"High crimes and misdemeanors" doesnt actually require a crime have been committed. Misdemeanors at the time it was written really just mean 'misdeeds'. The concept of 'misdemeanor' as a crime as we interpret it now came later- the original phrase is based off British law of the time. They probably can impeach in the House on popularity alone with just a pretense of wrongdoing. Seems like they will have the votes and probably can and will force it through unless they lose in the court of public opinion first.

The flip side is McConnell isnt required by law to have an impeachment trial in the Senate even if the House votes. Its a break from precedent, but it certainly could be done. As much of a sham as this whole thing is, I suspect he will come under pressure to do just that. He could say something along the line of 'let the voters decide in November' if Trump gets to keep his job rather than removing a President the people voted for who committed no actual crime. Interesting times indeed.

Jscb1b said:

I wish all of these leeches would just die. They are a drain on our country. And wasting oxygen.

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Absolutely! Not to mention ruining all of our roadways with their priuses and continuing to breed and turn out even more overly sensitive pussies!

Theyll manufacture enough "facts" and "evidence" on the fly and impeachment Trump. Just wait and see. They know they cant beat him in 2020 and this is their only option.

The question is, what do we do after they impeach him?

Watch the Mark Levin explanation posted on another thread here in the pit

Wouldn't it be ironic to march on Washington with pitchforks in old farmer garb to show our disdain and give them the true picture of peasants they believe us to be...

Trump thinks it'll cause a civil war and recently retweeted and quoted some religious type who suggested that civil war is what will happen it Trump is removed.

The scary thing is that Trump tweeting that is, alone, legal grounds for impeachment. Let's hope Mr. Trump learns to shut his mouth because he's under investigation at this time and anything he says can, and will, be used against him in a court of law.

He needs to lawyer up and shut up. Right. Now.

VooDoo

Perhaps Trump is simply goading them into taking more extreme measures showing the ultimate corruptness. Guantanamo sits too empty currently

Rush Limbaugh says theyll impeach him. And hes been 99.9% accurate throughout his predictions.

Pelosi says "Its worth losing the house to impeach Trump." Even the libs know the American people are behind Trump, and know if they impeach him, many of them will be voted out. But the thing is, most of the "republicans" are democrats, wearing a red tie.

I feel if they impeach him, simply because they dont like him, which is what it is, it will stir up a small scale civil war.

So ???? . I am to believe, It is all based and hinged on a ( 5 page ) phone call to the Ukrainian ? ?
Even trying to 'artistically interpret' , to read between the lines and I just don't see squat .

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
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Blacksmith of Isaiah said:

I'm almost at the point I agree with Rush now ( almost)

Honestly I didn't think the liberals were that stupid ( still don't think all of them are but the left wingers are in total control now)

I think that comment from Nancy is very telling ( she knows it but has to take her orders from AOC). She didn't say that because she is exuding confidence over a victory

Also, being impeached doesn't really accomplish anything ( ask Clinton) because the Senate will never convict or remove.

At this point the only "civil war" I see is the one between the old guard liberals and the AOC faction in the DNC and i expect a fight to the death.

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Well if hes impeached, doesnt that DQ him from running in 2020?

Dippy said:

Trump can say what he wants about starting a civil war but I sure as hell am not going to take up arms against my fellow countrymen for a politician getting the boot because of politicians playing politics.

He signed up, was not forced. He knew what a political divisive cesspool DC is.

Just another day in DC paradise if you ask me

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If your (did you vote for Trump?) potus isnt worth fighting for, what is? Hes out there fighting for the American people and American values and all you can say is..."Oh well..." and wake up. Your "fellow countrymen" that are fighting against Trump and wanting him impeached ARE NOT your fellow countrymen.

These "fellow countrymen" are actively working against you. Working night and day to make you poor, no rights and a total slave. But I guess that is just "politics" to you huh?

They are counting on Trump's mouth giving them even more ammunition...which it is doing as we speak. Him retweeting that bit about civil war is grounds for impeachment.

For God's sake Trump, for once in yer Life shut up. He's doing the same thing dumb asses do when they get cuffed and shoved in the back of the squad car. He's running his mouth before he's even charged.

Shut. UP. Make them find the impeachment stuff....don't hand it to them!

VooDoo

Dippy said:

Trump can say what he wants about starting a civil war but I sure as hell am not going to take up arms against my fellow countrymen for a politician getting the boot because of politicians playing politics.

He signed up, was not forced. He knew what a political divisive cesspool DC is.

Just another day in DC paradise if you ask me

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I wouldn't worry about taking up arms, the left will be the ones to pursue violence. They are going to push this and it will end with the same nothing burger as the Russia thing. Antifa, Black Lives Matter, etc. do you believe they are violent by themselves? This is all being orchestrated by the people paying for it. Where do they get their money? That is where they also receive their marching orders.

The next civil war will be people defending the constitution against anarchists.

Vodoun daVinci said:

They are counting on Trump's mouth giving them even more ammunition...which it is doing as we speak. Him retweeting that bit about civil war is grounds for impeachment.

For God's sake Trump, for once in yer Life shut up. He's doing the same thing dumb asses do when they get cuffed and shoved in the back of the squad car. He's running his mouth before he's even charged.

Shut. UP. Make them find the impeachment stuff....don't hand it to them!

VooDoo

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Trump quoted the pastor saying "If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal,"

I fail to see how quoting someone else warning against action which may cause a fracture in the US is impeachable. Its not a crime or misdemeanor by any standard. Newsweek just ran an article quoting a Harvard Professor saying that statement is impeachable but he does not explain how or why. Typical leftists publish some hysteria somewhere and then other outlets quote the original unsubstantiated statement and it seem like fact. Thats whats happening here. Total BS. A leader warning his country to prevent a split is his job as far as Im concerned.

Trump is getting them to fully commit to this lunacy by egging them on. He has them building their own gallows and tying the rope.

Blacksmith of Isaiah said:

Unbelievable aint it?

I never would have thought it possible but Trump has owned them at every turn

While Bush bumbled and Mittens wept, Trump was warming up watching

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And BOOM! Hadn't considered this. Could actually be the fireworks we have all been waiting for. Could you imagine?!

Dippy said:

The Liberty of my Children is what I am actively fight for, not a godforsaken politician.

I voted for Trump and also support Trump. But he is a politician. Yes he is our President, but not the second coming of Christ.

Me taking up arms against my Brother or Family because of a politician and political views? No. I am not in a cult and he is not my cult leader. Those who don’t learn from the past will repeat the same mistakes. You want to see massive bloodshed on American soil again? Go ahead fan those flames.

Taking up arms against your countrymen is not the solution to the problem in our country. The brainwashing of our youth is the problem. So you take up arms and you win, then you die of old age and the ones taking your place are brainwashed leftist, fresh out of the indoctrination factory, what did you gain?

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Well since the future of your children are your #1 priority, Id hope the direction of the country would be your #2. Without Trump, this country is GONE. Never to return. What kind of future will your children have living in a socialist, Venezuela type country? With Sharia law implemented. Sounds great doesnt it?

If a civil war ensues, and "we" win, we'll atleast have 100-200 years of less bullshit. Nothing changes, and I mean nothing of any real value, until blood is spilled. That has been the course since the beginning of time. And its no different today.

Be "civil" is code for..."Let me rob and murder you."

I think its impossible to impeach president Trump, The two long year investigation that yield no hard substance is gonna be of disadvantage to the dems.

Look, he's going to be impeached, he was always going to be impeached; we saw that coming ever since the last congressional election.

But impeachment simply means that the Congress has indicted on charges. It is not any kind of a conviction, and carries no real penalty.

It's a show of hands about whether the Congress thinks the individual charged should be, in their opinion, sent to trial by the Senate.

Congress is powerless to remove the President under any circumstances, they can only recommend that the Senate holds said trial.

The senate is under absolutely no obligation to hold said trial. They can give Congress the finger, and wash their hands on the whole thing.

Considering that it would be a cold day in Hell when the senate would actually convict on the grounds the Congress claims is a clear self-indictment by the Democrats and Congress of themselves on grounds of outrageously aberrant mental health. They're crazy as loons and screaming it out to the world for all to see.

Let them. The bigger they let this get, the harder that will fall.

I love watching the Democrats holding the knife to their own throats.

Happy to help.

Greg

Whatever the president does or says or tweets or retweets will be an impeachable crime..... no matter what. Throw enough shit on the wall, some will stick. The caveman Green from Texas(yes us Texans are very embarassed), said they must impeach or he will be constitutionally re elected.

This is a bit of a long read, but I found it quite interesting on the potential course for these proceedings and why things may have been done the way they have up until this point:

It’s all a theatrical lie until Congress votes to open a proceeding.

This is grandstanding on the largest scale for our country. I am not positive Pelosi can wake up one Wednesday morning and decide to launch an inquiry w/o a house vote. Hard as it may seem, she has been the voice of reason amongst the collection of little barking lap dogs that constitute her party. They were calling for impeachment in Dec of 16 before he took office.
We just need to sit back and watch as to what substance they can actually come up with, it will be an entertaining ride. I myself would be embarrassed to have to call quite a few of those on house committees as my representative, shameful.
It really does not matter what the house does, the senate will be forced to hold a trial going nowhere if they impeach, giant waste of time, money and now they have an excuse for accomplishing nothing for this congressional term, just make fucking grey noise.

23 yrs ago, with repubs in charge of the house, we went down the same road after willie got his weinie sucked in the oval office.

IMO, Trumps biggest mistake has been not vetting the people who could actually cause him harm. And protecting this whistle blowers identity just guarantees more of this shit to come for years . Maybe I am wrong here, but there are some things done by our POTUS that should never surface, it is minorly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. It is bad enough the left is a force to deal with, adding media support on levels never imagined before, mostly in the form of dishonesty makes it one bad combo.

McConnell has stated Senate would hold a trial if articles of impeachment were to be brought. Whether he is just playing or means it is anyone’s guess.

nn8734 said:

McConnell has stated Senate would hold a trial if articles of impeachment were to be brought. Whether he is just playing or means it is anyone’s guess.

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I do not think they have a choice if he is impeached by the house, they do have some rules, lol

Milo 2.5 said:

I do not think they have a choice if he is impeached by the house, they do have some rules, lol

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The senate has no legal requirement to hold a trial regardless of what the House did. It would be a break from precedent but would be allowed. Since the whole thing is a sham and break from precedent dont be surprised if it happens.

Crang said:

The senate has no legal requirement to hold a trial regardless of what the House did. It would be a break from precedent but would be allowed. Since the whole thing is a sham and break from precedent dont be surprised if it happens.

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This assumes a bunch of RINOs have enough spine to do what is correct. They have not been impressive with our 2A rights

Milo 2.5 said:

I do not think they have a choice if he is impeached by the house, they do have some rules, lol

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Yep, just read they would need 67 votes to change the rule.

Crang said:

The senate has no legal requirement to hold a trial regardless of what the House did. It would be a break from precedent but would be allowed. Since the whole thing is a sham and break from precedent dont be surprised if it happens.

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Yes, you are correct, be a first though.

Long Range 338 said:

This assumes a bunch of RINOs have enough spine to do what is correct. They have not been impressive with our 2A rights

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Yeah Im actually concerned the deep state/swamp/Soros or other boogeymen could turn enough Senators to pull it off if McConnell lets it go that far. If we get to a point Obama, Hillary, Comey, Clapper, etc are forced to testify all gloves are clearly off. Its become abundantly clear there are many at our alphabet agencies that will play as dirty as it takes. Would hope Trumps security detail is incredibly personally loyal to him as well. Toppling governments is what some of them do for a living.

Stand by for the possibility of a Self-coup - an auto Coup d'état. Be safe.

VooDoo

308220 said:

Theyll manufacture enough "facts" and "evidence" on the fly and impeachment Trump. Just wait and see. They know they cant beat him in 2020 and this is their only option.

The question is, what do we do after they impeach him?

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The House can't impeach anyone.

This will be the mother of all backfires

The House can bring articles of impeachment but only the Senate can actually vote to remove the President from office.

That said, this is a shit show being driven forward by communists, anarchists, certain elites, the Chinese government and the bitter fucking Clinton’s. They are all uniting against a common enemy: Freedom

Long Range 338 said:

Wouldn't it be ironic to march on Washington with pitchforks in old farmer garb to show our disdain and give them the true picture of peasants they believe us to be...

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