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Trump tariff on mexican imports until illegal immigrantion stops

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Starting in june, goes up 5% per month until Mexico stops the illegals coming in. I love it! Now if he can just put a tariff on the cash being sent to other countries from all these illegals sending their welfare money back to their home countries.
 
We should just take Mexico, 10-20 minutes of battle and its ours. Make it a state "The Real Old Mexico", price of Spanish Fly would drop dramatically .

Dude, have you been to Mexico? We don't want those problems... That would be way too much of a headache with no benefit to the US (at least none I can think of)
 
Thats why we should defend the border with lethal force, and catapult any illegal we find here back across the border. We have our own destitute and desperate people to look after, we dont need other countries poor too. Take your bullshit somewhere else, of just post your address so we can send a busload or two to your hood.

So we have a problem of destitute and desperate people crossing illegally and the way to stop it is to impose tariffs to kill trade so they become even more destitute and desperate? That oughtta larn em!
 
Fedgov has one main job to do and they have failed. Article 5 needs to be invoked.

A bigger prob is over stayed Visas, people just set up camp here, disregard our laws, start with the visa scofflaws going to county jail then work their way down the food chain.

Fedgov, and I mean DEms and rRpubs have purposefully failed our country, they need to be destroyed as mafias that they are, both partys need to be investigated under RICO statutes.
 
If you make all border crossings illegal, only illegals will cross the border!

Hmmm .... that reminds me of something.
 
Dude, have you been to Mexico? We don't want those problems... That would be way too much of a headache with no benefit to the US (at least none I can think of)
Wait until all these liberals and feel gooders have to start paying for all this.
Americans are killing themselves from the inside out people are to stupid to see it.
I have never seen drug abuse out in the open ever in my entire 56 years.
I read an article from NPR of all places they showed a woman shielding her children from a junkie while her children waited for a school bus in front of their 700k brownstone.
They posted the pictures of him shooting the dope, then taking a shit his face was blurred for his privacy.
 
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My wife immigrated here legally from England. Because of where she is from and what she looks like, her entry into our country has been very difficult. To date we have spent just shy of $6,000 for filing fees and lawyer fees with immigration.

I had to prove my financial status was on par to support her, and file affidavits affirming she is my sole responsibility. Tell me how the hell our social services AND social security offices are full of immigrants?

Want to immigrate? Get in the same fucking line my wife has had to wait in.
As you might imagine, she hates illegal immigration. She works, and pays taxes. She is also an ardent second amendment proponent, and carries.
When she first came over she did not understand our "fascination" with guns. After "experiencing" the real USA, she has a much firmer grasp of reality. Her words:
"When you are over there(England), the only thing you know about USA is the cities. I had no idea how vast and beautiful this country is. The real people of this country seem to have little voice, and have been terribly maligned and marginalized."

She thought I was some kind of barbarian throwback.....until she lived here a while. I'll never forget the look on her face when I opened my gunsafe. The first trip to a gunshow was also entertaining. "So....you can just buy any of this stuff?"
"Yep....for now. When you can't, you'll see why it was so important."
 
I’m on my meds! How bout you?

Januvia plus Trulicity equals eat whatever I want!
 
Not wrong GL. We need to get the two mafias killing each other off or the states need to invoke article 5 and nullify all unconstitutional activities of Fedgov whick is about everything except the USPS, and protecting the borders and our sovereignty.
 
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I live a little over an hour from the border. Trust me; we don’t want Mexico. Lots of very nice people, but also some real shitbags. What we need is a damn WALL and then defend that wall with our Military. If you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country. If we don’t stop this invasion soon the US, as we know it, will disappear.
 
If the US took over Mexico it would be worse than when East and West Germany unified. It would wreck our economy for a very long time.
 
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So we have a problem of destitute and desperate people crossing illegally and the way to stop it is to impose tariffs to kill trade so they become even more destitute and desperate? That oughtta larn em!

The current caravans are coming from South of Mexico.

Mexico stops them at the border and asks "Are you coming to Mexico to be a bum or are you going to visit Uncle Sucker to be a bum?"

If they say they want to stay in Mexico they get no admittance.

If they say they want to scam off Uncle Sucker, and they all do, the Mexican official waves aside his gate allowing access as he shouts "Ole!"

Still havent answered if you agree with Rep Smallballs, a Presidential candidate of the Communist Party, that American citizens should be targetted by US nukes.......

Waiting.....
 
So we have a problem of destitute and desperate people crossing illegally and the way to stop it is to impose tariffs to kill trade so they become even more destitute and desperate? That oughtta larn em!
Like ... if having guns is illegal, only criminals will have guns!
I get letting leftists in and being inclusive so it’s not an echo chamber (as if the media isn’t one). But, do we have to tolerate this fucktard’s ant—2ndA rights bullshit?

This IS a shooting site. Totalitarians who want gun control aren’t going to add a single thing to a single conversation. If they’ve already decided only the government should be armed there is no debating or arguing with them. They are the enemy of our Constitution, and the real domestic enemies of everyone who has taken the oath. I guess I wouldn’t be for ban cat if it was at all intelligent trolling, but this guy is an idiot, and started off lying through his teeth.

He just regurgitates sound bytes he hears on MSNBC, he’s TV ignorant, and so cliched in his attacks and arguments he could be a conservative parodying a Millennial communist. He isn’t even any fun. He’s just a dumbshit, indoctrinated communist.

There couldn’t be a more profound expression of ignorance than being for authoritarian government, socialism, “diversity”, and unrestricted immigration all at once. He reminds me of a child with a chemistry set just dumping chemicals into a heating beaker with no idea what the result will be, but he thinks it will be the cure to cancer. Since we talking about our future there will be no satisfaction of “I told you so” when it blows up.

I’m
Like ... if having guns is illegal, only criminals will have guns!
@Tucker301 , now we’re not just tolerating communists, but anti-2ndA activists? I say let these fools run their mouths pining for totalitarian government, but for a shooting site to tolerate gun banners seems counterproductive.

It’s amazing how a person like this can make that relationship, but doesn’t understand how advocating for socialism on the one hand conflicts with “diversity” and unrestricted immigration on the other.

It displays a level of ignorance and misunderstanding that’s almost shocking from someone who is clearly literate and has at least had some high school. The brainwashing must have been intense to be functional with that level of cognitive dissonance.
 
Fig, you best take care or you are going to be drafted to be a mod.
 
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I live a little over an hour from the border. Trust me; we don’t want Mexico. Lots of very nice people, but also some real shitbags. What we need is a damn WALL and then defend that wall with our Military. If you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country. If we don’t stop this invasion soon the US, as we know it, will disappear.

You got that right.

Ive traveled a lot and have friends in Mexico. Went to a birthday party and got sick from something I ate. My friends Mom put me up in her house and took care of me for 3 days while I recovered. Some of the finest people I know. Ive been invited many time to come and stay with folks I just met.

But they do not know freedom as we do simply because they come from a different system and have never known it. Thats why they come here. Honestly, I cant blame them. The whole system is geared to keep the poor, poor. the Spanish raped the land of most of its natural resource. they do have huge reserves of oil and natural gas, but so do we.

The only way to stop it is to enforce the border with no compromise. If youre caught here illegally, you go directly to jail. youre children are seized and cared for until youre, very quickly deported, then they go with you. Illegal is illegal. to those of you who have traveled more than I, what happens if youre caught in an Islamic country with out your papers? Or a Communist country.

Enforce the border.
 
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I get letting leftists in and being inclusive so it’s not an echo chamber (as if the media isn’t one). But, do we have to tolerate this fucktard’s ant—2ndA rights bullshit?

This IS a shooting site. Totalitarians who want gun control aren’t going to add a single thing to a single conversation. If they’ve already decided only the government should be armed there is no debating or arguing with them. They are the enemy of our Constitution, and the real domestic enemies of everyone who has taken the oath. I guess I wouldn’t be for ban cat if it was at all intelligent trolling, but this guy is an idiot, and started off lying through his teeth.

He just regurgitates sound bytes he hears on MSNBC, he’s TV ignorant, and so cliched in his attacks and arguments he could be a conservative parodying a Millennial communist. He isn’t even any fun. He’s just a dumbshit, indoctrinated communist.

There couldn’t be a more profound expression of ignorance than being for authoritarian government, socialism, “diversity”, and unrestricted immigration all at once. He reminds me of a child with a chemistry set just dumping chemicals into a heating beaker with no idea what the result will be, but he thinks it will be the cure to cancer. Since we talking about our future there will be no satisfaction of “I told you so” when it blows up.

I’m

@Tucker301 , now we’re not just tolerating communists, but anti-2ndA activists? I say let these fools run their mouths pining for totalitarian government, but for a shooting site to tolerate gun banners seems counterproductive.

It’s amazing how a person like this can make that relationship, but doesn’t understand how advocating for socialism on the one hand conflicts with “diversity” and unrestricted immigration on the other.

It displays a level of ignorance and misunderstanding that’s almost shocking from someone who is clearly literate and has at least had some high school. The brainwashing must have been intense to be functional with that level of cognitive dissonance.


Im guessing the ban cat will pounce but I like when these fools come here.

It bouys the cockles of my heart when @pewpewfever gets all caught up in his own argument and cant even answer questions about points he initially raises.

It confirms for me we are right and he is wrong.
 
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I get letting leftists in and being inclusive so it’s not an echo chamber (as if the media isn’t one). But, do we have to tolerate this fucktard’s ant—2ndA rights bullshit?

This IS a shooting site. Totalitarians who want gun control aren’t going to add a single thing to a single conversation. If they’ve already decided only the government should be armed there is no debating or arguing with them. They are the enemy of our Constitution, and the real domestic enemies of everyone who has taken the oath. I guess I wouldn’t be for ban cat if it was at all intelligent trolling, but this guy is an idiot, and started off lying through his teeth.

He just regurgitates sound bytes he hears on MSNBC, he’s TV ignorant, and so cliched in his attacks and arguments he could be a conservative parodying a Millennial communist. He isn’t even any fun. He’s just a dumbshit, indoctrinated communist.

There couldn’t be a more profound expression of ignorance than being for authoritarian government, socialism, “diversity”, and unrestricted immigration all at once. He reminds me of a child with a chemistry set just dumping chemicals into a heating beaker with no idea what the result will be, but he thinks it will be the cure to cancer. Since we talking about our future there will be no satisfaction of “I told you so” when it blows up.

I’m

@Tucker301 , now we’re not just tolerating communists, but anti-2ndA activists? I say let these fools run their mouths pining for totalitarian government, but for a shooting site to tolerate gun banners seems counterproductive.

It’s amazing how a person like this can make that relationship, but doesn’t understand how advocating for socialism on the one hand conflicts with “diversity” and unrestricted immigration on the other.

It displays a level of ignorance and misunderstanding that’s almost shocking from someone who is clearly literate and has at least had some high school. The brainwashing must have been intense to be functional with that level of cognitive dissonance.

I don’t know why you expect me to engage with you when the conclusions you’ve drawn from what I’ve posted are so incredibly unreasonable.
 
I get letting leftists in and being inclusive so it’s not an echo chamber (as if the media isn’t one). But, do we have to tolerate this fucktard’s ant—2ndA rights bullshit?

This IS a shooting site. Totalitarians who want gun control aren’t going to add a single thing to a single conversation. If they’ve already decided only the government should be armed there is no debating or arguing with them. They are the enemy of our Constitution, and the real domestic enemies of everyone who has taken the oath. I guess I wouldn’t be for ban cat if it was at all intelligent trolling, but this guy is an idiot, and started off lying through his teeth.

He just regurgitates sound bytes he hears on MSNBC, he’s TV ignorant, and so cliched in his attacks and arguments he could be a conservative parodying a Millennial communist. He isn’t even any fun. He’s just a dumbshit, indoctrinated communist.

There couldn’t be a more profound expression of ignorance than being for authoritarian government, socialism, “diversity”, and unrestricted immigration all at once. He reminds me of a child with a chemistry set just dumping chemicals into a heating beaker with no idea what the result will be, but he thinks it will be the cure to cancer. Since we talking about our future there will be no satisfaction of “I told you so” when it blows up.

I’m

@Tucker301 , now we’re not just tolerating communists, but anti-2ndA activists? I say let these fools run their mouths pining for totalitarian government, but for a shooting site to tolerate gun banners seems counterproductive.

I didn't see the comment as being anti 2A. I believe he was using it as a somewhat hyperbolic ironic analogy in a feeble attempt to make his support for open borders appear somehow more reasonable.
Of course it's a false parallel, because
1. There is no right to freely immigrate in the Constitution,
and
2. The Constitution applies to US citizens, not foreign invaders.

Conclusion:
Dolt? Yes.
Anti 2A? Not yet, but the cancer could spread if he keeps watching Don Lemon and drinking Zimas.
 
I didn't see the comment as being anti 2A. I believe he was using it as a somewhat hyperbolic ironic analogy in a feeble attempt to make his support for open borders appear somehow more reasonable.
Of course it's a false parallel, because
1. There is no right to freely immigrate in the Constitution,
and
2. The Constitution applies to US citizens, not foreign invaders.

Conclusion:
Dolt? Yes.
Anti 2A? Not yet, but the cancer could spread if he keeps watching Don Lemon and drinking Zimas.

This^^^

I think we need be very careful who gets the hammer lest 'We' turn into 'Them'.
 
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I didn't see the comment as being anti 2A. I believe he was using it as a somewhat hyperbolic ironic analogy in a feeble attempt to make his support for open borders appear somehow more reasonable.
Of course it's a false parallel, because
1. There is no right to freely immigrate in the Constitution,
and
2. The Constitution applies to US citizens, not foreign invaders.

Conclusion:
Dolt? Yes.
Anti 2A? Not yet, but the cancer could spread if he keeps watching Don Lemon and drinking Zimas.

How in the world do you conclude that I support open borders? I’m saying that it’s literally impossible for Mexico to stop all illegal immigration from Mexico. The US can’t do it. How is Mexico supposed to do it? And the escalating tariff isn’t imposed conditioned on Mexico making an effort or stopping caravans. It’s an openly unreasonable terminating condition. That doesn’t make me an open borders advocate. I’ll tell you what I do think, and that’s the only way to hold a piece of land is to put a man on it. Vastly increasing the number of border patrol agents would be effective and it’s a job creator. Walls and tariffs aren’t going to get it done. They are empty gestures aimed at continuing the problem so the politicians can continue to leverage it for reelection.
 
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There are plenty of agents already. The problem is not how many agents there are the problem is what their orders are. If I were president their orders would be that they were to shoot to kill every invader. I would pardon anyone who followed orders and fire anyone who did not. I would stop the flow of illegals in 24 hours.