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Is something going on in Ukraine?

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bono is a piece of shit, and that is why he showed up. fuck anyone for defending him.

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He IS the record.
 
I counted 7 rounds in just over a minute.

Hows a barrel hold up to that rate of fire?
Former Artilleryman,
M777 could be good for 4000 rounds. Could burn out in 1000 rounds. Depends on what charge, rate of fire and projectile weight. Charlie Battery 1st and the 37th Field Artillery ( my old unit) was the first unit to field the M777A2 in the US Army in early 2008.
We fired over 1400 rounds in a week for table 7-8 training. Most was Green bag(charge weight) about 40 RAP rounds and probably 100 Red bag charges. The guns were sent in for service after. They were 1/4 through there service life after that we were told.

And I highly doubt they "trained" them competently. 13B training is like 5 weeks, 13D training is 7 weeks and a day. You just know enough to think you know what your doing. The real training and experience comes from being on the line. Sure they can pull the string... But unless they are former Artillery men. They are gonna be sub par.
 
Former Artilleryman,
M777 could be good for 4000 rounds. Could burn out in 1000 rounds. Depends on what charge, rate of fire and projectile weight. Charlie Battery 1st and the 37th Field Artillery ( my old unit) was the first unit to field the M777A2 in the US Army in early 2008.
We fired over 1400 rounds in a week for table 7-8 training. Most was Green bag(charge weight) about 40 RAP rounds and probably 100 Red bag charges. The guns were sent in for service after. They were 1/4 through there service life after that we were told.

And I highly doubt they "trained" them competently. 13B training is like 5 weeks, 13D training is 7 weeks and a day. You just know enough to think you know what your doing. The real training and experience comes from being on the line. Sure they can pull the string... But unless they are former Artillery men. They are gonna be sub par.

You forgot to mention the 13F. Those 155 mm packets of joy aren't any good unless they hit the target. Without a decent FDC and 13F they will be shooting blind.
 
50 million rounds of ammo
Unmanned aerial and costal units
75,000 sets of armor / helmets

The rest of the list almost rounds out a build an army kit. Wow. Take care of domestic issues too please
I guess "The Wall" has been completed and the flow of illegals across the Southern border has been stopped.
 
I guess "The Wall" has been completed and the flow of illegals across the Southern border has been stopped.

And all of the roads have been fixed, the power grids in big states like TX/CA/NY are gtg, our schools have adequate funding, social security is solvent, etc etc.

They are getting ready to spend almost 6 trillion dollars and most of it will go to state governments/bailouts. Just watch.
 
Former Artilleryman,
M777 could be good for 4000 rounds. Could burn out in 1000 rounds. Depends on what charge, rate of fire and projectile weight. Charlie Battery 1st and the 37th Field Artillery ( my old unit) was the first unit to field the M777A2 in the US Army in early 2008.
We fired over 1400 rounds in a week for table 7-8 training. Most was Green bag(charge weight) about 40 RAP rounds and probably 100 Red bag charges. The guns were sent in for service after. They were 1/4 through there service life after that we were told.

And I highly doubt they "trained" them competently. 13B training is like 5 weeks, 13D training is 7 weeks and a day. You just know enough to think you know what your doing. The real training and experience comes from being on the line. Sure they can pull the string... But unless they are former Artillery men. They are gonna be sub par.

Thanks for the input.
They do have some existing trained artillerymen. It seems that as they run out of ammo for their legacy soviet systems they are swapping guns after a familiarization course.

How long would it take to retread trained artillery men, and do you think with good instructors after only a week of weapon familiarization is effective?

Here is a video of an existing Ukrainian arty crew operating. I skipped ahead to the interval wherein you can see the crew operating.

 
Meanwhile in Russia copper thieves break into their version of Air Force One and steal a bunch of wiring:


The article is a bit dated at DEC 2020. Humorous nonetheless.

If you are referring to the reports of the airshow being canceled due to sabotage, this would unrelated. It may have been canceled for "fear of sabotage" not actual sabotage. The plane itself was seen recently flying over Moscow in preparation of the May 9th event.
 
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Kyiv shuts off pipeline carrying up to a THIRD of Russia's gas into Europe​

I was wondering when this was going to happen. Somewhere between page 2 and 15
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Ukraine does what Soros and Obama tell them to do. The war in Ukraine is between the NWO and an old school oligarchy. The NWO needs a distraction from the devastation it’s policies have left for citizens of western society. Arrogant geeks who believe they are smarter than everyone else rarely make realistic plans. They are on the edge of panic now. China is chuckling in the background.
 
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Ukraine does what Soros and Obama tell them to do. The war in Ukraine is between the NWO and an old school oligarchy. The NWO needs a distraction from the devastation it’s policies have left for citizens of western society. Arrogant geeks who believe they are smarter than everyone else rarely make realistic plans. They are on the edge of panic now. China is chuckling in the background.
maybe kelensky thinks if he makes it tough for the EU, they will commit forces to the war...
 
Fuck ukraine.

Lol @everyone who said/says we need to support ukraine.

Enjoy the food shortages, and probably sometime in the future we’ll be sending another generation of American youth to fight for the freedom of a foreign shit hole. Damn, people are retarded.

Oh, and enjoy our illegal immigration crisis as well.
 
Fuck ukraine.

Lol @everyone who said/says we need to support ukraine.

Enjoy the food shortages, and probably sometime in the future we’ll be sending another generation of American youth to fight for the freedom of a foreign shit hole. Damn, people are retarded.

Oh, and enjoy our illegal immigration crisis as well.
I want off this roller coaster.... it's making me sick.
 
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Fuck ukraine.

Lol @everyone who said/says we need to support ukraine.

Enjoy the food shortages, and probably sometime in the future we’ll be sending another generation of American youth to fight for the freedom of a foreign shit hole. Damn, people are retarded.

Oh, and enjoy our illegal immigration crisis as well.
And how many people complaining about lack of baby formula voted against Trump? Don't get me wrong, babies should NOT be paying a price for having a fraudlent election and the results thereof.

Whilst I'm on it...Why is there a George Soros?

And....has anybody been seeing out former Sec Def Esper has been totally trashing Trump?
 
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Ukraine does what Soros and Obama tell them to do. The war in Ukraine is between the NWO and an old school oligarchy. The NWO needs a distraction from the devastation it’s policies have left for citizens of western society. Arrogant geeks who believe they are smarter than everyone else rarely make realistic plans. They are on the edge of panic now. China is chuckling in the background.
I was thinking they Escalate the war and get us stuck in it before they lose their grip on power, and its too far to remediate the problem.
 
Is my math wrong here ?
There's about 400 million people in the US (not counting the extra million a day of illegals being welcomed across the border)
40 billion would be $1,000 for each man, woman, child, in the US.

That there is some fucked up shit.
According to the GAO, that would be $200 for each man, woman and child in the US. Expenses, fees, taxes, payoffs, bribes etc aren't free you know.
 
According to the GAO, that would be $200 for each man, woman and child in the US. Expenses, fees, taxes, payoffs, bribes etc aren't free you know.
But how many Federal Taxpayers are getting to cover that $40B nut?
Because it sure isn't 400 million!
 

So, 172M taxpayers will cover that bill, or $232 each. Not too bad... If that was all they were spending.
The bill (luckily for poors like me) isn't divided equally however.
The bottom 50% of tax payers will each only be chipping in $13.95 each on average. The top 1% of the earners get to pitch in $10,607.47 each toward the $40B gift to Ukraine.

In 2017, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined.
 
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There's only about 130 million people employed. Remember that city, county, state and federal employees just recycle tax dollars. Remove that number from the tax base and you have about 80 million employed people paying taxes.
It's a Ponzi scheme!!

So, 172M taxpayers will cover that bill, or $232 each. Not too bad... If that was all they were spending.
 
$40 Billion to Ukraine?

How much of that is for Ukraine and how much will actually make it there for their defense?

Anyone look at this appropriation before the House voted on it?

Maybe someone in the Senate has reading comprehension?

Where is this cash coming from? It isn't in the budget so it must be additional deficit spending. Crank up the printing presses, bet it adds to inflation too.

"It's an emergency. We must help people fighting for freedom and democracy."

Just what the hell did our veterans do and why isn't their plight treated in the same fashion?

ASGH that needs to happen.
 
So in an invasion, Sweden will send the UK a bunch of Ikea furniture so they can barricade their doors, but what will UK send to Sweden? Bangers and mash maybe, I dunno.
Spotted dick?
 
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