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Evening Folks,
Appreciate everyone who has reached out. Please continue to do so and ill reply asap.
Our customers are truly #1 priority and i will reply to each and every email.
My email is [email protected] and cell# 608-335-4486
Email will be the quickest way to get things moving and ill be on all evening to look after these.
Also, just so folks are informed. We received drop-ships for Liberty Optics up until this week. But they were not released until Vortex was paid.
In all of these cases i have been dealing with, i have the order information but they are just being held as we have not received payment.
I am hoping all of you can file a chargeback and get your money back.
It's very important that each of you are looked after and will help with any order needs to get things moving in a timely manner.
Thanks again for the opportunity
Shamus Terry
According to the post from Shamus the orders with Vortex were prepay orders and were not shipped until they were paid for.Who knows but I’d guess either he fell off financially or his health. Either way it’s fucked up to burn your customers and go out with a shit reputation.
I don’t get what’s so hard for you to understand. This is standard practice across the retail industry regardless of whether it’s a stocking order or a drop ship. What does it matter to the distributor where it goes? It’s on credit and either way it’s out of their possession so it makes no difference.
https://biz.sosmt.gov/search/businessAccording to this, dissolution of Liberty Optics LLC was back in 2008???
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According to this, dissolution of Liberty Optics LLC was back in 2008???
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I was tryna Remember the name of that fuckerHe was last seen in Moscow Idaho at a strip club drinking with Pete Lesbo.
According to this, dissolution of Liberty Optics LLC was back in 2008???
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Contact Shamus at Vortex with your details, assuming it’s a Vortex you ordered. Details in this thread. Last page I think.Well crap. Of course I’m seeing all this happening this morning, 121 days past my order
Fucker got me for $1573. Luckily I was inside the 60 day window with the cc. Anyone have his business address and contact info for the mt doj complaint form? Not much worse than a thief. Fuck this guy I’m going to file every .gov form I can find for him.
And unless he fucked some cop/judge/politician aint shit gonna happenFuck this guy I’m going to file every .gov form I can find for him.
I ordered a Vortex Razor 4000 GB in the middle of August, and received it Oct 2. Sounds like I got extremely lucky.Has anyone received anything they ordered from June on?
I'm hoping this is a huge misunderstanding but the pessimist in me is starting to think this was planned for a while. Vortex doesn't seem to have been paid on anything for whatever their net terms are, 60, 90, who knows. Then there was the anniversary sale in August? which was supposed to have the biggest discounts ever. I'm sure tons of people ordered during that timeframe. At $2000 per order, that adds up pretty quickly.
This just gave me Dean Michaelis flashbacks....Not the first time something like this has happened to this community and it likely won’t be the last.
Lots of unknowns here but one thing is for certain. Vortex is unmatched in how they treat their customers. No matter what you think of their products the industry needs more of what they do.
If you find one let us know as I would be on board as well.I am for sure going to be buying more Vortex products.
Now of course begins the search for a new favourite dealer that is trustworthy and also offers excellent discounts.
That might be a bit of searching.
EuroOptic has always been outstanding to me, and their pricing on Vortex is pretty good with a PRS membership.I am for sure going to be buying more Vortex products.
Now of course begins the search for a new favourite dealer that is trustworthy and also offers excellent discounts.
That might be a bit of searching.
If you find one let us know as I would be on board as well.
While I’ve never purchased from him I swear that man works harder than anyone I know, he is on literally every forum I belong to.CameraLandNY has pretty good deals...
EuroOptic has always been outstanding to me, and their pricing on Vortex is pretty good with a PRS membership.
CameraLandNY has pretty good deals...
Nobody’s prices touched Scott’s unfortunately.
I am for sure going to be buying more Vortex products.
Now of course begins the search for a new favourite dealer that is trustworthy and also offers excellent discounts.
That might be a bit of searching.
Possible on an alt account or browsing without an account. Time is CST.On a final note, I wonder if Scott iswatching this forum?
That’s who I trust my business with. They’ve been exceptional. And they’re a legit brick & mortar business, not some rando dude in his garage.EuroOptic has always been outstanding to me, and their pricing on Vortex is pretty good with a PRS membership.
This. They are awesome.
You mean the guy that vouched for Scott yesterday in this thread and acted like this wasn't true? I wouldn't have bought a thing from them even before this. They're not shooters and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not even gun people, they're salemen. There's better outfits to deal with.
And unless he fucked some cop/judge/politician aint shit gonna happen
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr?...raud&start_date=&end_date=&sort_by=field_dateAnd unless he fucked some cop/judge/politician aint shit gonna happen
Nobody’s prices touched Scott’s unfortunately.
While I appreciate what you've brought to this thread, I call bs on attacking Doug and CameraLandNY. I've dealt with him - and I dealt with Scott. As of 48 hours ago, I would have vouched for Scott. I'll still vouch for Doug and CameraLand.This. They are awesome.
You mean the guy that vouched for Scott yesterday in this thread and acted like this wasn't true? I wouldn't have bought a thing from them even before this. They're not shooters and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not even gun people, they're salemen. There's better outfits to deal with.
That's because he was operating on profit margins of a few bucks. This is what happens to those businesses time and time again and people get fucked. Yeah you may be getting a great deal by not shopping at vendors that actually have overhead and have skin in the game, but you're not getting a great deal when they close up shop overnight and take your money.
It's worth spending the money to buy from a reputable dealer. It's really worth buying from a reputable dealer that actually has the inventory and will ship it vs charging your card and delivery taking longer than a CC chargeback allows. When I order something from Euro Optic that isn't in stock they place the order and I'm not billed until it's ready to ship to me. Thats how it should be done.
I am for sure going to be buying more Vortex products.
Now of course begins the search for a new favourite dealer that is trustworthy and also offers excellent discounts.
That might be a bit of searching.
What is it that I've heard about a deal that's too good to be true?
Yeah, you're watching the answer here in real time.
Lol. Liberty Optics “had” a great reputation spanning 20 something odd years so getting butt hurt because another dealer defended them initially is f’n lame. And are you sure Doug isn’t a shooter? Not really sure why that’s even a thing.This. They are awesome.
You mean the guy that vouched for Scott yesterday in this thread and acted like this wasn't true? I wouldn't have bought a thing from them even before this. They're not shooters and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not even gun people, they're salemen. There's better outfits to deal with.
That's uncalled for. I respect Doug for standing up for a competitor. I bought from both Scott and Doug and would be equally surprised if one of them just vanished like this. As much as this does look like a planned act by Scott, which is very disappointing if true, let's find out what actually happened first. He could be incapacitated or dead and someone else is cleaning out the coffers in his absence.This. They are awesome.
You mean the guy that vouched for Scott yesterday in this thread and acted like this wasn't true? I wouldn't have bought a thing from them even before this. They're not shooters and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not even gun people, they're salemen. There's better outfits to deal with.
Everyone knows why he was able to give those deals and they were ok with the wait to save money. Until a couple days ago Scott was more than reputable, no one that’s been around here thought there was a chance they weren’t getting what they paid for when placing an order. No one saw this coming.
How are you still holding out hope that Scott didn’t just plan on ripping off a bunch of people with all the information out there now?That's uncalled for. I respect Doug for standing up for a competitor. I bought from both Scott and Doug and would be equally surprised if one of them just vanished like this. As much as this does look like a planned act by Scott, which is very disappointing if true, let's find out what actually happened first. He could be incapacitated or dead and someone else is cleaning out the coffers in his absence.
That's a little unfair. What would be your immediate response if some one you really trusted was accused of something like this? I think you’d find it hard to believe, and you wouldn’t immediately think the worst. Scott is Doug’s competitor, the fact he didn't go for the pitchfork first is admirable, even if it appears now that Scott is a super douche. I expect we’ll hear from Doug pretty soon to say as much.This. They are awesome.
You mean the guy that vouched for Scott yesterday in this thread and acted like this wasn't true? I wouldn't have bought a thing from them even before this. They're not shooters and I wouldn't be surprised if they're not even gun people, they're salemen. There's better outfits to deal with.
That's uncalled for. I respect Doug for standing up for a competitor. I bought from both Scott and Doug and would be equally surprised if one of them just vanished like this. As much as this does look like a planned act by Scott, which is very disappointing if true, let's find out what actually happened first. He could be incapacitated or dead and someone else is cleaning out the coffers in his absence.
God I love Vortex.Morning Gents,
My biggest priority right now is making sure all the customers are looked after. ( As of a few mins ago, i have responded to everyone via email.)
I am also going to do all i can for those who can't get their money back. My goal is that no one feels they lost in the end.
Please reach out if i can help.
Shamus Terry
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Ohh yeah? Anyone with a brain should be able to see the risk involved with dealing with a business like that. I haven't dealt with Scott since before 2010 when a deal on a Premier Heritage got fucky.
This isn't the first time something similar has happened. I2/Pete Lesbo wasn't that long ago either. Also a little one man show.
Even if a business like this is totally successful and ethical and never runs into financial issues the owner can drop dead from a heart attack, get killed in a car accident, or blow their brains out and anyone who has paid them and not received goods or services is left standing in line with their hand out along with family members that want money and don't want to deal with wrapping up the business, and anyone else they owe money to. Larger outfits generally have protections built in for this and there's also more laws to protect consumers vs an LLC that protects the business owner.
But yes, Scott was reputable until he wasn't.
That's a little unfair. What would be your immediate response if some one you really trusted was accused of something like this? I think you’d find it hard to believe, and you wouldn’t immediately think the worst. Scott is Doug’s competitor, the fact he didn't go for the pitchfork first is admirable, even if it appears now that Scott is a super douche. I expect we’ll hear from Doug pretty soon to say as much.
I have zero connection to either of them, thats just how I see it.