this is an example of my pet gripe about humans and our 4 legged carnivore friends. can you imagine what a 70-100 lb puma,lion,lepord etc would be as a weapon,partner,friend if we had that kind of relationship,and control,with them? if poss we should have been working with them for the 10K+ years we have had cats with us. the egyptians seem to have started to work on that. we have had dogs for at least 30K and look at the results. there is a bunch of stuff around about people relating to lions so i think maybe would have been doable. lions are the only pack pantera or felis so there is that. still what a team. those are mals so the intense focus on their breeding and training shows. if you watch schutzhund vids on YT you can see some really impressive work with many breeds.