The Mangione Effect: 2 dead Jewish Embassy Staffers

[W54/XM-388]

Just about everybody is good with violence against tangentially related targets as being fine to achieve a political or moral goal.


The government of the USA pretty much lives by that and does it all over the world
The government of Israel pretty much is a state religion of that
The Arab world is a state religion ruled by that principle
Everybody else is like "what do you mean there are people you shouldn't kill? We never got that memo."


Anyone on the "right wing" side that disagrees, had better go check their comment history for the past 30 years as our country killed or caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands or more to achieve various power and control goals (and make Israel happy). I'll bet most all of the comments from those "right wing" types are all about how they had it coming because they didn't overthrow their government for us and willingly install a puppet USA state.


Same as with the whole "business" the Israelis are doing in the Gaza strip, most on here are fine with however many civilians are killed or starved to death or such or forced into life threatening poverty, because "well they are a bunch of dirty arabs anyways".


It's just a matter of scale:
One on one: lots of folks get all upset and call it evil and wrong
Group on group: some folks get all upset and call it evil and wrong
Glorious armies of Uniforms on those evil other skin/race/religion types: hey it's the best thing and most patriotic and just thing ever.


It's just the way the world is the entire history of the world.
Most folks that wind up dying in struggles are folks that are not actual direct combatants or direct players in things.

The "glorious" war of WWII that so many "right wing folks" wax all lyrical about was actually one of the most savage of all wars in that regards and the "victors" were even more ruthless than the "losers" when it came to killing folks only extremely tangentially related, including direct attacks primarily on civilians.

 

[Fig]

Eh, no, I wouldn't go that far. I think that they certainly would have up to October 7th, but prior to that the left had generally said, "Yea, Hamas is bad, but those poor "Palestinians" are victims of Hamas too". In order to do that you have to ignore the three generations of Hamas' totalitarian control in Gaza, and the fact that once the Hamas commandos were finished murdering Jews the people of Gaza poured over the border and most of the rapes, torture, and mutilation of Israelis were not carried out by Hamas comandos, who basically just tried to murder as many as fast as possible in true pogrom fashion, but by Gazan civilians nourished for generations on Hamas propaganda and hatred. After October 7th, there is just no question as American sympathizers chant Hamas slogans and chant to globalize the intifada. It's become a mirror organization. It's no longer an American Leftist thing at all. These people are Hamas.

It's the whole red/green alliance. The "far left", which is simply a euphemism for communists and their CRT (communism applied to race instead of prol/bourgy) has absolutely zero in common with the Jihadists on every level, fundamental or otherwise, EXCEPT their hatred for the West, western values, and bedrock American ideals of individual liberty and the rule of law. Their whole philosophy is based on a virtually random perception of oppressor/oppressed, and that's what they try to pass as "morality", even though on the simplest philosophical level if fails utterly. This diseased "morality" is why they side with MS13, and criminals against American citizens. It literally explains all their views and behaviors, and it IS what they are taught in collage classes.

On the necesity of destroying the entire West is the one thing they are completely united with the Jihadis, and this makes us their mutual enemy. This is the only reason they've made common cause with the Jihadists. It is the only reason there is a Gays for Gaza even when they would be almost immediately executed if they ever set foot there. Weak people are often forced to side with people they would naturally be enemies with when faced with a mutual, stronger enemy, and that is simply human nature. The whole thing is gobsmackingly simplistic, which is why it works for the kind of mental midgets who adhere to it, as if real morality was just too difficult for them!

 

[Fig]

Just about everybody is good with violence against tangentially related targets as being fine to achieve a political or moral goal.


The government of the USA pretty much lives by that and does it all over the world
The government of Israel pretty much is a state religion of that
The Arab world is a state religion ruled by that principle
Everybody else is like "what do you mean there are people you shouldn't kill? We never got that memo."


Anyone on the "right wing" side that disagrees, had better go check their comment history for the past 30 years as our country killed or caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands or more to achieve various power and control goals (and make Israel happy). I'll bet most all of the comments from those "right wing" types are all about how they had it coming because they didn't overthrow their government for us and willingly install a puppet USA state.


Same as with the whole "business" the Israelis are doing in the Gaza strip, most on here are fine with however many civilians are killed or starved to death or such or forced into life threatening poverty, because "well they are a bunch of dirty arabs anyways".


It's just a matter of scale:
One on one: lots of folks get all upset and call it evil and wrong
Group on group: some folks get all upset and call it evil and wrong
Glorious armies of Uniforms on those evil other skin/race/religion types: hey it's the best thing and most patriotic and just thing ever.


It's just the way the world is the entire history of the world.
Most folks that wind up dying in struggles are folks that are not actual direct combatants or direct players in things.

The "glorious" war of WWII that so many "right wing folks" wax all lyrical about was actually one of the most savage of all wars in that regards and the "victors" were even more ruthless than the "losers" when it came to killing folks only extremely tangentially related, including direct attacks primarily on civilians.

I'll agree to a point, but I don't think you really believe there is no good or evil and no right vs wrong, and it's never worth fighting because good and evil are just a point of view. I don't get the sense that you are that much of a solipsistic relativist. I just think it is often complicated, and fallen creatures are never the pure beings that fanatics want them to be. You can have a healthy dose of your post, but at the end of the day many (or even most in some places) are forced to choose, and pure pragmatism can't survive when the actual killing starts. We all have to choose, but we can do so with eyes wide open, and preserve our own humanity by refusing fanaticism and choosing to be and do good with the only being we actually control. You don't have to justify your actions after the fact, or retreat to fanaticism to do so. You can choose to be a person for whom the ends do not justify the means. That spirit of self sacrifice permeates the West and western philosophy both in history and in our myths.

That is why it is so vastly superior to all the others and the recipe for a society to advance, learn, and build rather than fall to rancor and destroy.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

So how is the Rule of Law going away for a few months?

The coming False flag will add just enough tension to the already smoking tow rope. Most believe the gov's (state & fed) have the ability to quell any up rising. That is a false assumption, as the ankle biters on this rock will join the festivity's. Besides they did not send their folks across the border for nothing.

Question,... If you see someone in LE or Military rags shooting innocent people who are you going to shoot? Game that to ground,...

 

[kalashnikev]

...and that was true of the two kids the gunman murdered. Their bios are not IDF or Mossad. Their bios are of left wing Jews, who although they support Israel's right to exist and can be labeled "Zionists", working with Jewish humanitarian organizations

Keep your eye on the ball, kid- J-state "humanitarian organizations" struggling to find a way to alleviate the suffering that they-themselves-created is as dumb as imposing a bunch of tariffs on China, surrendering to China and dropping them, and then claiming Victory in averting the tariff crisis.

These two... kids?? were in the employ of the J-state, on assignment in the American capital. They should have been jailed long before this tragic attack ever took place, and we should have found out what they knew and what their objectives were before their lives were cut short.

The barbaric crimes against humanity committed by the I-state are nothing compared to what we've seen from the J-state since its inception.

We don't tolerate Americans traveling to the I-state to make bayah to the Caliph and I do not tolerate Americans who travel to the I-state to make bayah to the J-Caliph, Ben Mielkowski.

It makes no difference to me if you were a man-on-the-make in either violent expansionist Terror State, or what rank you held at your time of detention- all moral people oppose the J-state, and support a free Palestine.

The Hamas Terrorist could not have picked two more idealistic (naive) people working to stop the war...

Could be fake, but it seems that the male was quite a bloodthirsty animal on Twitter. Must be the Rooskie in him.

I wonder why he didn't just stay in Germany, live an honest life, and pay his own way though?

If there was a USGOV-green-light to slaughter and kill Italians so that Catholics could adopt Roman-sounding names and live in their stolen houses and expand out from the Vatican, would they do it?

Could you imagine thousands of Irish moving the locals into concentration camps and lobbing bombs at them while adopting goofy names like Marcus Claudius Pomptinus Tyrannicus while occupying their homes in the streets of Rome? And I'm supposed to pay for that?

Why do Russians, Polish, Ukranians, Belarussian, and... some Americans... do this?

Is there any group of people on the planet more Evil and backward than the Zionists?

The Jihad is here. We cannot ignore that our elite universities have become terrorist recruitment centers supported by both the Administration and the students.

Haha- attack the academy and kill off, exile, or starve the intelligentsia.

Who came up with that idea?

All moral Americans are now terrorists?

EVEN MISS RACHEL??

Let's see how that works out for you in the coming years.

Saying it's a "genocide" is literally the most hypocritical and antithetical thing they could say

It's... very clearly a Genocide taking place, right before our eyes, streamed in 4K, and with the assistance of all the Epstein clients and all the J-state Terrorists, Enablers, Supporters, Sympathizers, and the Fence-Sitters too.

You can push your head in the sand, but that just leaves me up here with your big round tuckuss, Bubbie.

All that's missing is the mark of the Beast on their foreheads. If you can't see it, then you are morally and mentally blind.

No beast mark (lol), but how about just the Stars and Stripes?

In the days of the Islamic State, all moral people opposed their atrocities (at COB Speicher against the IA, against the Christians who were forced to pay the jizya, against the gays)- especially the Muslim Community.

Americans- and the locals- pressed permanent-pause on that catastrophe.

Now we witness the sickest and most depraved campaign of genocide and terror the world has seen since ancient times- worse than the Third Reich- and with no redeeming qualities. Where are the voices from the Jewish Community denouncing the J-state and calling for its destruction?

I see only the opposite from them, and it's very telling.

Captured during the tail end of the Floyd riots of 2020:

Not everything is a glowie false flag gayfrog PSYOP... but that graffiti definitely is.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Question,... If you see someone in LE or Military rags shooting innocent people who are you going to shoot? Game that to ground,...

I might suggest that one could game that as many times as they want, but if things go nuts for a bit and we are trying to show Rwanda how things are done, things might turn out very differently.

Even those folks that "Were over there" for the USA government, might find ideas and plans change pretty quickly in a "no friendly sides at all" type situation with none of the government support they were used to.

Trying to keep yourself alive and those you care about alive, might mean that you have to do things you wish you hadn't or that you have to let things happen you wish you hadn't.

If it ever actually really goes proper Rwanda style, lots of folks won't make it through and deserves will have had very little to do with things for a lot of them.

 

[BCP]

The "glorious" war of WWII that so many "right wing folks" wax all lyrical about was actually one of the most savage of all wars in that regards and the "victors" were even more ruthless than the "losers" when it came to killing folks only extremely tangentially related

The older I get the more I realize how bullshit a lot of our history is. Most of our wars were totally unnecessary and most of our policies are "Fuck the Poor!" written as 800 page long bills in Congress.

 

[Jsp556]

Question,... If you see someone in LE or Military rags shooting innocent people who are you going to shoot? Game that to ground,...

Dude, really?

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Dude, really?

Its not called called a destabilization op, for no reason.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The older I get the more I realize how bullshit a lot of our history is. Most of our wars were totally unnecessary and most of our policies are "Fuck the Poor!" written as 800 page long bills in Congress.

I'll second & third that commotion. A few 22's behind the correct ears would have stopped a lot of B/S thru the years.

 

[WaltHer]

"Admired Luigi" nuff said. Scumbag. Coward. Leftist.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/22/suspect-in-killing-of-israeli-embassy-staffers-a-woke-chicago-socialist-admired-luigi-mangione/

 

[mosin46]

I might suggest that one could game that as many times as they want, but if things go nuts for a bit and we are trying to show Rwanda how things are done, things might turn out very differently.

Even those folks that "Were over there" for the USA government, might find ideas and plans change pretty quickly in a "no friendly sides at all" type situation with none of the government support they were used to.

Trying to keep yourself alive and those you care about alive, might mean that you have to do things you wish you hadn't or that you have to let things happen you wish you hadn't.

If it ever actually really goes proper Rwanda style, lots of folks won't make it through and deserves will have had very little to do with things for a lot of them.

you guys are getting into deep territory,which is a good thing. W54 puts it about the way i would. to use an overused word,i believe we face an existential threat unlike any seen in our history. the rampant looting; destruction of property; escalating rape,murder,assault are signs of what is coming. the response by the "authorities" is tepid and totally inadequate to deal with it. it seems that there is a willingness to ignore it or push it farther. this willingness to ramp such up is reminiscent of Lenin or Hitler. the rationale of those who advocate this do so openly,loudly and frequently. would have been crimes at one time. now proudly advocated by MSM and many political and public figures.
the "rule of law" or moral/ethical behavior has exactly zero chance of eliminating the obvious threat. the fact is that to solve it one will have to sink to that very level of behavior. saying or thinking that we must "be better and stay above that" is simply contemplating suicide as an individual or a society. dead or having loved ones slaughtered is not really morally superior.
it just seems to me that history is following a common path. just like in the past the savages and their influencers are telling you exactly what they are going to do when they get the chance. people never listen and refuse to believe because they can't wrap their minds around such things. response of many Jews before the holocaust is exactly what is happening in much of the rt sided,conservative,mostly christian middle and working class in America. Europe is even farther down the path with no hope of getting off it. they have been unarmed for decades and been subject to obedience training for same.

 

[Maggot]

Now we witness the sickest and most depraved campaign of genocide and terror the world has seen since ancient times- worse than the Third Reich- and with no redeeming qualities. Where are the voices from the Jewish Community denouncing the J-state and calling for its destruction?

The Jstate seem to have that down to a science, its not their first rodeo. "Destroyed every living thing" These people, if thats what you want to calll them, have been perfecting genocide for thousands of years. I wonder how much karma was involved in the 'holocaust'.

Joshua 6-20: 20 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

24 When Israel had finished killing all the men of Ai in the fields and in the wilderness where they had chased them, and when every one of them had been put to the sword, all the Israelites returned to Ai and killed those who were in it. 25 Twelve thousand men and women fell that day—all the people of Ai. 26 For Joshua did not draw back the hand that held out his javelin until he had destroyed[a] all who lived in Ai. 27

And on and on

Southern Cities Conquered​

28 That day Joshua took Makkedah. He put the city and its king to the sword and totally destroyed everyone in it. He left no survivors. And he did to the king of Makkedah as he had done to the king of Jericho.

29 Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Makkedah to Libnah and attacked it. 30 The Lord also gave that city and its king into Israel’s hand. The city and everyone in it Joshua put to the sword. He left no survivors there. And he did to its king as he had done to the king of Jericho.

31 Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Libnah to Lachish; he took up positions against it and attacked it. 32 The Lord gave Lachish into Israel’s hands, and Joshua took it on the second day. The city and everyone in it he put to the sword, just as he had done to Libnah. 33 Meanwhile, Horam king of Gezer had come up to help Lachish, but Joshua defeated him and his army—until no survivors were left.

34 Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Lachish to Eglon; they took up positions against it and attacked it. 35 They captured it that same day and put it to the sword and totally destroyed everyone in it, just as they had done to Lachish.

36 Then Joshua and all Israel with him went up from Eglon to Hebron and attacked it. 37 They took the city and put it to the sword, together with its king, its villages and everyone in it. They left no survivors. Just as at Eglon, they totally destroyed it and everyone in it.

38 Then Joshua and all Israel with him turned around and attacked Debir. 39 They took the city, its king and its villages, and put them to the sword. Everyone in it they totally destroyed. They left no survivors. They did to Debir and its king as they had done to Libnah and its king and to Hebron.

40 So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed,

 

[kalashnikev]

The Jstate seem to have that down to a science, its not their first rodeo.

Exactly.

These people have been perpetrating the exact-same-atrocities "From Time Immemorial" against the whole entire human race.

There is no difference between child sex slavery in the Weimar Republic and political blackmail, and child sex slavery in Palm Beach, FL and political blackmail.

There is no difference between child murder and talmudic blood rituals in the Middle Ages, and child murder and Tik Tok vids sleeping in their cribs and playing with their toys in Gaza.

There is no difference between Robert Maxwell tricking Academics after WWII into signing lifetime contracts to their scientific publication rights, and Hollywood Agents, Sports Agents, and Entertainment Lawyers bleeding Athletes and the Creative class.

There is no difference between Harvey Weinstein saying "You gotta blow me to be in the movie" and a Berlin nightclub owner saying "You gotta blow me to sing tonight."

Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln : Julius Barmat : a million other dudes : Bernie Madoff : Samuel Bankman Fried...

 

[sloporsche]

the short version...............................................another wack job with a gun murdered 2 humans

 

[sirhrmechanic]

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2025/05/23/report-father-of-suspect-in-jewish-christian-couples-slaying-was-democrats-guest-at-trump-address/

So family of shooter was well-connected Democrats and guests of Dem Rep. at Trump address…. There is a surprise!

Another leftist wind-up toy.

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Mangione effect is right, dead-nuts on!!!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/22/suspect-in-killing-of-israeli-embassy-staffers-a-woke-chicago-socialist-admired-luigi-mangione/

Sirhr