Yeah, no prob. I am sort of a freewheeling guy, I had no goal other to brainstorm and talk, and you’re right about the placement of my little analysis.
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Rifle Scopes March 5-42 Gen 2 PRS Edition
- Thread starter Shayne Ward
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The way March illuminates reticle requires them to be slightly thicker than the non illuminated variants are which is likely why the sizing is increased in the illuminated versus non-illuminated.
What is re-zeroing like? Does this use set screws on a brass knob inside the turret a-la viper pst/Nightforce/Steiner M, etc?
Will swapping between rifles eventually leave divets?
All I can find is the zero stop and locking features, not how to set zero.
Will swapping between rifles eventually leave divets?
All I can find is the zero stop and locking features, not how to set zero.
The zero is set using set screws like most other scopes on the market. If you don’t misuse the optic you won’t have issue rezeroing it over and over. Torque matters!
Not the same model but I have the 4.5x28 with the LDK reticle. It’s a nice piece of glass, fov is amazing. They ship it with this ring that fits between the sun shade and the scope that does excellent at cutting mirage. I have the shuriken turrets and I’m not in love with the clicks but the visibility and spacing is really good, no guessing if you dialed a tenth over under. I did a tall target test and it was spot on 6 mils up and back down. It fell out of the rack into a cement floor, gave a pretty nasty mark, knocked it of zero. I repeated the tall target test and it tracked perfectly up 6 mils and back to zero. I keep wanting to find something wrong with this scope but it’s really good and the glass is excellent. Not quite as sharp as my zco’s but really good.
The ring to which you refer is called a Modifier Disk (MD). What is does is reduce the size of the aperture (objective) by 50% and thus increases the depth of field viewed through the riflescope. The objective lens diameter is 52MM, and it makes for a handy riflescope. I have one on an AR-10, a rifle which is heavy enough as it is without plunking a heavy riflescope on it.
How do you like the LDK reticle?
I find the clicks on the shuriken turrets to be very positive and extremely accurate. I have the same turrets on my Majesta sitting on top of my match rifle and I really like them. However, I would like to know what you do not like about them.
I have not banged up my scopes like you have, yet, so I'm glad to hear about your torture test experiment. Those 4mm thick tubes can really take some punishment.
OP states this is amazing and great but gives zero context to his experience and familiarity of high end glass. If he's coming from a bushy or Mk5hd I can imagine there could be a lil wow factor. But what about a 7-35 TT, ZCO 5-27, razor gen3 6-36? You can't just say this is the fastest best handling car out there for production road racing, when all you've ever driven are a cavalier and a geo metro.
It would take you about 18 seconds on Google to see his accomplishments and realize he is somebody worth listening to.
It makes a big difference. I really like the LDK, it’s clean .2 mil holds are a must for me. The experiment definitely wasn’t intentional, but I’m clumsy. I’m really glad it held up as well. I will do another one when I get time just to confirm windage adjustments are correct as well. They did a great job with this optic.
Okay so he's an accomplished shooter. But you know how many guys are sponsored by XXX and then cannot comment of brand X VS brand Y due to possible loss of entry fees, gear, whatever. Kinda sucks there's no relevance. It's unfortunate guys can lose their rides due to some positive constructive criticism.
I don’t shoot for any Optics company. My opinion was completely unbiased. That being said it’s an opinion none the less. Believe me I have had plenty of time behind every major player in the games optics. This March checks all of the boxes. I am not asking you to believe everything I said. Get behind one and tell me where I was wrong though
If you have any questions you think I might not want to exactly answer in a public manner feel free to reach out. I’m happy to help anyway I can.
What's so funny about people that can't hit the broad side of a barn and have never shot a PRS match telling a national champion that would give you the shirt off his back that he isn't reputable?
Hilarious isn’t it!! Shayne’s got more time behind a rifle than the vast majority of people and he’s shot literally every reputable brand on the planet it should speak volumes when a national champion takes time to say something is good.
This is some stupid shit to say.
Ive had my run ins with Shayne on this site over the years but he is undisputed one of the BEST shooters in the world right now. Rimfire Golden Bullet and is consistently finishing top 5-10 at centerfire matches including a point back from 1st place last weekend at Coal Canyon. His opinions have MUCH more value than most people here. None of these guys are going to risk points shooting anything they don't think will give them the best chance to win.
You don't have to agree with everything he says but to dismiss him as some sponsored guy (Show us on the doll where the jersey shooter touched you....) is absolute retard level thinking. There are very few highly accomplished shooters on this site who even post in these forums (Most just use EE to sell stuff), and people like you are why.
You aren't the only one moving to March. I was talking to another guy yesterday (top 20 shooter) and he is leaving his long time brand to shoot March. Looks like they are picking up some traction. Sounds like the 5-42 does not have the downfalls of the new Kahles wide angle which has historically been the issue with March (DOF, Tight Eyebox and finicky parallax). I need to get behind one and shoot it side by side with a Tangent and ZCO.I don’t shoot for any Optics company. My opinion was completely unbiased. That being said it’s an opinion none the less. Believe me I have had plenty of time behind every major player in the games optics. This March checks all of the boxes. I am not asking you to believe everything I said. Get behind one and tell me where I was wrong though
If you have any questions you think I might not want to exactly answer in a public manner feel free to reach out. I’m happy to help anyway I can.
There are quite a few folks who have swapped to the March and many more orders are in awaiting arrival. I won’t bad mouth other brands as a March representative but I can tell you go look for yourself I can promise you the first words outta your mouth will go something like this…
Damn the glass is good in this scope…
Man the FOV is great…
I like the reticle it’s very clean and quick…
Oh wow the turrets are really really good on this scope, why are they silver? … writable … damn…
Dang I don’t really touch the parallax from 400-1000 yards…
Oh wow this things 42x…
Ask me how I know… its happened OVER AND OVER already
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It’s really remarkable how well it does this. I have 3 zco’s and owned bunch of atacr’s s&b pm2’s kahles 5-25 mark 5 hd’s and I would say this has the best glass short of the zco’s. I was shooting a small little buffalo target this morning at 545 yards, maybe 4 inches tall and 8 inches long not painted. In the mark 5 it’s just a grey blob the march is crystal clear, fov is nuts. I don’t find the eye box finicky at all at 28x which is top end for my model. I really didn’t think this scope would be as good as it is.
March has very good optical properties and cuts mirage very well, many have indicated it’s leading the the market in cutting mirage. @Denys I’m sure can elaborate extensively on the topic but March has some very very experienced people making sure light path, coatings, lens shape, finishing practices and overall designs are absolutely second to none in optical horsepower.
Everyone’s eyes are different but many folks who own Thetas, ZCO, and the new 540 have all indicated to me in person side by side that the march simply is better glass quality…. That isn’t my opinion being stated it’s actual users who have shot all sorts of optics.
The march is one of the best offerings on the planet for prs use and brings a very strong offering in all the categories.
The guy who won coal canyon, was shooting a leupold, and everyone knows that's a mid level, not so durable scope at best. So your logic is super sound as always. Obviously Ward is a high level shooter, I respect the fact he doesn't take optics sponsors cuz it pisses me off to hear people plug shit that's inferior in moderate to severe degree.
I've never been diddled by a jersey boy to have any ill entention towards them. I guess next time I see one at a match I'll ask for a reach around once he's done with you.
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