Israel/iran

[kthomas]

Honestly reading this last page (25), If you don't know much about Islam, muhammed, or their religious text, go read up on it before speaking. Islam/muslims want to take over the world, literally, it's in their source text, it's either pay the jizzia (sp?) (extortion tax to be left alone but you gotta still be submissive), convert or die.

And it's the dumbest crap ever as if you just read the quran how much it refutes it's self, even muhammed called the book as in the people of the book AKA Christians, and the book being the Bible, as being true and reliable LOL.. Oh and that "allah's word can't be altered or destoryed" yet modern muslims argue the bible has been corrupted. There's so much of that crap where either way = Islam false.

BUT they believe it because it's beneficial for them far as hey hey dude it's okay to beat your wife, it's okay to have sex with that kid, just marry her first, etc. etc. etc. etc. oh and it's okay to just kill your enemies and decieve them etc. (they call their god the greatest of all decievers and brag about it like... dude, whose the father of all lies again?) anyway.... yeah... glassing the whole middle east isn't right or realistic, so you can't stop this garbage that way. They have to be made to see what they were taught is all lies...

ON TOP OF THAT, Iran has a sect that things they will cause the leader that will unite them all to come out of hiding if they make crap crazy enough and start enough crap..... They need to be made to see all that's going to do is get them "delt with" real harsh like.... But they wont accept that until the above is done.

Hey, if Iran comes and invades us here, then game on.

Until then, we don't need to be over there playing in their sandbox.

 

[tna9001]

It does not matter in the USA what happens in the ME as far as gas prices.

Hell we got oil pouring out of our ass. It is what the average dumbshits belive the pissey fit going on effects oil availability.

It's horseshit. We don't need thier oil and well, fuck the rest of the world .

Who is controlling the shipping lanes ? At the moment appears to be the USA.

You don't understand basic economics, it appears. Unless you think our government would issue price controls on oil, the price at the pump will fluctuate due to demand and instability.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Hey, if Iran comes and invades us here, then game on.

Until then, we don't need to be over there playing in their sandbox.

They( militants supported by Irans government) have been attacking multiple US assets for years. Are you okay with their proxies (trained funded and armed)firing on US Navy ships protecting commercial shipping?

 

[Maggot]

They( militants supported by Irans government) have been attacking multiple US assets for years. Are you okay with their proxies (trained funded and armed)firing on US Navy ships protecting commercial shipping?

I'll bet that if we werent in bed with the Israeli's that would go way down.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

I'll bet that if we werent in bed with the Israeli's that would go way down.

Bull shit, if they Israelis weren't there holding it down, it be a lot worse.


Back to those Barbary Pirates when the Founding Fathers were still alive( 150 years before israel was founded).

Thomas Jefferson reiterating what Tripoli ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman said to him-

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

Yeah...

 

[kthomas]

They( militants supported by Irans government) have been attacking multiple US assets for years. Are you okay with their proxies (trained funded and armed)firing on US Navy ships protecting commercial shipping?

I think a large part of that specific issue is us having 800+ military bases around the world, involving ourselves in numerous conflicts, especially unpopular ones in that region like Israel's conflict in Gaza.

The Houthis explicitly stated they were attacking our ships because of Gaza.

We paint a target on our backs.

 

[tucaz]

Any idea why she might be so pro Israel???

Early life and education​

Laura Loomer was born in Tucson, Arizona, on May 21, 1993.[14] She and her two brothers were raised in Arizona.[15] She attended Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts, leaving after one semester; she said she felt targeted for being conservative.[16] She transferred to Barry University in Miami Shores, Florida, and graduated in 2015 with a bachelor's degree in broadcast journalism.[16][17] Loomer is Jewish.[18][19]

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no shortage of jews in the Dirty T.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

I think a large part of that specific issue is us having 800+ military bases around the world, involving ourselves in numerous conflicts, especially unpopular ones in that region like Israel's conflict in Gaza.

The Houthis explicitly stated they were attacking our ships because of Gaza.

We paint a target on our backs.

Because they want control over the Sini and visa ve the Suez. They are in Yemen because its another choke point.

You can buy that Gaza shit if you want... you seem gullible enough.

 

[kthomas]

Because they want control over the Sini and visa ve the Suez. They are in Yemen because its another choke point.

You can buy that Gaza shit if you want... you seem gullible enough.

Just going off of what they are explicitly stating and what their actions have proven out.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Just going off of what they are explicitly stating and what their actions have proven out.

So you are okay with them attacking US ships because of Gaza.

Thats your position?

 

[Tokay444]

So you are okay with them attacking US ships because of Gaza.

Thats your position?

Are you ok with the jews doing 9/11 and USS Liberty?

 

[Mr.BR]

No one ever explained the theory behind the idea that bombing some folks home land will turn them against the regime.

 

[kthomas]

So you are okay with them attacking US ships because of Gaza.

Thats your position?

My position is that our neocon led foreign policy, which has us absolutely stretched as an empire, spending trillions on wars and maintaining 800+ military bases around the world, will be the downfall of the United States.

We are going down the same path as other former great empires. We are the architects of our own demise. We are marching slowly towards the cliff, and another conflict against a country like Iran will only hasten that march.

Fighting these idiotic regime change wars is inherently against US interests. Spending billions to fight Houthis is also against US interests.

 

[gigamortis]

i don't know why tulsi would not have access to whatever the idf is showing to trump to convince him.

It could be they are both correct to a degree. They may not have a functioning nuke bomb on hand just yet, but they keep on enriching uranium way beyond the purity than what's needed for simple electricity generation.

 

[theLBC]

It could be they are both correct to a degree. They may not have a functioning nuke bomb on hand just yet, but they keep on enriching uranium way beyond the purity than what's needed for simple electricity generation.

tulsi said the same thing in her report (but they skip that part to make her seem in opposition with trump).
they cannot explain why they are enriching uranium or plutonium beyond useful civilian purposes.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

My position is that our neocon led foreign policy, which has us absolutely stretched as an empire, spending trillions on wars and maintaining 800+ military bases around the world, will be the downfall of the United States.

We are going down the same path as other former great empires. We are the architects of our own demise. We are marching slowly towards the cliff, and another conflict against a country like Iran will only hasten that march.

Fighting these idiotic regime change wars is inherently against US interests. Spending billions to fight Houthis is also against US interests.

So...

You are okay with them hitting US ships protecting a shipping choke point?

 

[Bullfrog08]

Hey, if Iran comes and invades us here, then game on.

Until then, we don't need to be over there playing in their sandbox.

Do you carry a gun before or after you get attacked? Do you lock the door before or after robbed? Do you store your money in a bank or keep cash laying around?

Im all for proaction! Keep them crazy people over there, and keeping them from having big booms protects you and yours!

Most here dont give two shits about any of those 3rd world countries. We all love a civil life. I dont wanna kill any Iranian people but they wanna kill us. Keep that shit on their soil.

Most know to keep your eyes on the trouble maker kids, and address their behavior before they turn everything into a shit show.....same same!

Kinda like California.....keep that crazy shit in your own state.

 

[theLBC]

 

[Maggot]

So...

You are okay with them hitting US ships protecting a shipping choke point?

Do you carry a gun before or after you get attacked? Do you lock the door before or after robbed? Do you store your money in a bank or keep cash laying around?

Im all for proaction! Keep them crazy people over there, and keeping them from having big booms protects you and yours!

Most here dont give two shits about any of those 3rd world countries. We all love a civil life. I dont wanna kill any Iranian people but they wanna kill us. Keep that shit on their soil.

Most know to keep your eyes on the trouble maker kids, and address their behavior before they turn everything into a shit show.....same same!

Kinda like California.....keep that crazy shit in your own state.

I think what @kthomas is suggesting, is that we get the only real reason we/re there, to protect the oil supply, and that the wise move would be to put ourselves in a postition that we dont need the Strait of Hormuz. We have plenty of oil we just need to restructure the refining. We have plenty of natural gas, and had Carter not fucked the pooch Mexico has 10X as much we could buy. Then work on improving solar until its viable.

We dont need to be world cops. Lets get it together here and let them settle their own differences. I have 0 love for Israel, or Iran, l and dont want to see one American life or dollar wasted over there.

If they come here or start shit here, different story.

 

[91Eunozs]

 

[GreenGO Juan]

I think what @kthomas is suggesting, is that we get the only real reason we/re there, to protect the oil supply, and that the wise move would be to put ourselves in a postition that we dont need the Strait of Hormuz. We have plenty of oil we just need to restructure the refining. We have plenty of natural gas, and had Carter not fucked the pooch Mexico has 10X as much we could buy. Then work on improving solar until its viable.

We dont need to be world cops. Lets get it together here and let them settle their own differences. I have 0 love for Israel, or Iran, l and dont want to see one American life or dollar wasted over there.

If they come here or start shit here, different story.

That is not the reality of how things are.

Its a cute idea, but not the way the world works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[tightInThePants]

Anyone have access to this guy's tweets? This isn't actually real, is it?

 

[theLBC]

 

[Maggot]

That is not the reality of how things are.

Its a cute Idea, but not the way the world works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

My bubble is fine and intact.

Its not a 'cute' idea, its a good one. Sadly it wont happen because........................ignorance, which breeds fear, which breeds...........greed.

 

[TheHorta]

 

[GreenGO Juan]

My bubble is fine and intact.

Its not a 'cute' idea, its a good one. Sadly it wont happen because........................ignorance, which breeds fear, which breeds...........greed.

Dude... like, if we like just abandon all of the assest our country has spent 250 years aquiring... everything will be better... yeah man.

pass the bong...

lol.

 

[theLBC]

Anyone have access to this guy's tweets? This isn't actually real, is it?

i believe it is real (i have seen it shared) but it may have been deleted. (nope).


to be honest, i don't see any problem with it since that is what his religion teaches (goys are not the same).
as somebody noted, this is similar to how muslims feel about non-muslims.

perhaps the biggest difference is that you can choose to be muslim but you can't choose to be jewish unless your mother is jewish.

/i don't personally know any jewish people that express these opinions.
//most of the jewish people i know don't even go to temple so...

 

[Tokay444]

Do you carry a gun before or after you get attacked? Do you lock the door before or after robbed? Do you store your money in a bank or keep cash laying around?

Yes.

 

[Tokay444]

Israel will displace all these Iranians, then insist the rest of the world accept them as refuges, while accepting none of them into Isreal.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Iran bombed a basketball court. Shit just got real.

 

[theLBC]

Israel will displace all these Iranians, then insist the rest of the world accept them as refuges, while accepting none of them into Isreal.

while lots of folks appear to be fleeing tehran, i see no reason why israel would need to destroy homes or apartments. so far they aren't.
if they cause some kind of nuclear contamination, that would be bad.

 

[Detroit_1]

That is not the reality of how things are.

Its a cute idea, but not the way the world works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

What is reality?

Gene Sharp and Col. Robert Helvey created the lie (which is still popularized on wiki) that was the Tiananmen Square Massacre

How much of the reality around us is manufactured for us long in advance? How reasonably confident can a pleb be about their understanding of the short and long term consequences of such manufactured reality?

 

[tightInThePants]

i believe it is real (i have seen it shared) but it may have been deleted. (nope).


to be honest, i don't see any problem with it since that is what his religion teaches (goys are not the same).
as somebody noted, this is similar to how muslims feel about non-muslims.

perhaps the biggest difference is that you can choose to be muslim but you can't choose to be jewish unless your mother is jewish.

/i don't personally know any jewish people that express these opinions.
//most of the jewish people i know don't even go to temple so...

It looks pretty bad reflected against the constant world ending danger of whites identifying collectively and needing to do everything in our power, including destroying our civilizations to make sure that never comes to be. I'd also laugh at anyone who feels guilty about that at this point with it being so mask off (it is feeling absolutely insane to others at this point, no?). I don't have a problem with him feeling that way. If we had the testicular fortitude to be honest with ourselves, all groups do, obviously (and this might be super breaking news, but I might like pizza more than steak, but I don't want to throw all the steak in the garbage). I don't know any that feel that way either, that I'm aware of. I see it more as a zog issue than something that is specific to jews. There are zogs of all walks. Christian zogs, obviously. Muslim zogs, hindu zogs, atheiest zogs. Etc.

 

[Mean_Man]

I read the Koran 40 years ago. IMHO it was written by a drunken madman.

About right.

He himself thought he was demon possessed early on and tried to kill himself by throwing himself off a cliff multiple times on top of it all...to bad he didn't hit his head and that be the end of that back then... Literally no telling how much better the world would be today had he had success.

 

[BCP]

Anyone have access to this guy's tweets? This isn't actually real, is it?

Kinda doubt it, lots of photoshop bullshit out there right now as both Iran and Israel have social media propaganda machines working overtime.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

My position is that our neocon led foreign policy, which has us absolutely stretched as an empire, spending trillions on wars and maintaining 800+ military bases around the world, will be the downfall of the United States.

We are going down the same path as other former great empires. We are the architects of our own demise. We are marching slowly towards the cliff, and another conflict against a country like Iran will only hasten that march.

Fighting these idiotic regime change wars is inherently against US interests. Spending billions to fight Houthis is also against US interests.

We need to stop being the Mrs Kravits of the modern world…



Sirhr

 

[theLBC]

About right.

He himself thought he was demon possessed early on and tried to kill himself by throwing himself off a cliff multiple times on top of it all...to bad he didn't hit his head and that be the end of that back then... Literally no telling how much better the world would be today had he had success.

that would explain why he didn't allow alcohol.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

What is reality?

Gene Sharp and Col. Robert Helvey created the lie (which is still popularized on wiki) that was the Tiananmen Square Massacre

How much of the reality around us is manufactured for us long in advance? How reasonably confident can a pleb be about their understanding of the short and long term consequences of such manufactured reality?

Stay on topic, asshole.

None of that nonsense you’re spouting has shit to do with the conversation I was having with somebody else if you don’t grasp what I was trying to say, me explaining it to you isnt gonna to help you.

Especially with that kind of fucking off-the-wall response.

 

[theLBC]

just wow. maybe we just don't like killing people? is this parody?

 

[theLBC]

i think i might like to visit, eventually. maybe when the zealots are gone.

 

[Fx51LP308]

i think i might like to visit, eventually. maybe when the zealots are gone.

We actually had an Iranian dude in my graduating class in HS (in the mid 70's). He wrote a statement on his yearbook page where he lamented a bit (was tired of explaining where he comes from) and everyone asking him things like who he was, what his name means and where he's from. He explains in that statement that his name is Persian, etc. and that they don't speak Arabic but "Persian" ("Farsi" actually).

Still, he concluded his statement by saying,

Iran is a modern, civilized, beautiful country. I wish you call could visit it someday.

"And wasn't that ironic... don't you think...".

 

[Eostech]

Because they want control over the Sini and visa ve the Suez. They are in Yemen because its another choke point.

You can buy that Gaza shit if you want... you seem gullible enough.

The Houthis want control of the Sinai?

 

[Snuby642]

You don't understand basic economics, it appears. Unless you think our government would issue price controls on oil, the price at the pump will fluctuate due to demand and instability.

I understand exactly what is going on.

"The price at the pump will fluctuate" NO SHIT. who the fuck do you think you are spewing shit like that.

When I was a child mowing lawns I could buy a gallon of gas for the mower and two tootsi rolls for a quarter. That 25 cents for your bumb ass.

When I got my licence to drive things happened in the ME and the fucking price jumped to 33 cents. Keep up here, that's a third of a US dollar.

Then before I enlisted the price went to 1/2 a dollar that's 50 cents if you can do the math, fuck head.

While I was stationed in the UK the price off base was a dollar a liter. I never knew what the fuck a liter was till then.

At the time didn't matter as it was the price to drive around and get some local pussy. Not that you would know anything about that iether.

In summation fuck off.

 

[232593]

i don't know why tulsi would not have access to whatever the idf is showing to trump to convince him.

There are some interesting policies with that shit.

 

[Snuby642]

Id bet it's some.fucking greeny leftists with regulatory capture of the EPA. Can't increase pollution processing harder crud. So we sell it to India and China that produces 200% more pollution because they don't give a single fuck.

Yes I can see that contributing to costs and many other self imposed constrictions and costs of updating ect. .

But if you ignor a problem long enough "you" go away.

 

[232593]

Breitbarted?

 

[theLBC]

We actually had an Iranian dude in my graduating class in HS (in the mid 70's). He wrote a statement on his yearbook page where he lamented a bit (was tired of explaining where he comes from) and everyone asking him things like who he was, what his name means and where he's from. He explains in that statement that his name is Persian, etc. and that they don't speak Arabic but "Persian" ("Farsi" actually).

Still, he concluded his statement by saying,



"And wasn't that ironic... don't you think...".

there is a fairly large persian community near me, which means decent persian grub.

 

[Snuby642]

Been watching what is purported as live footage and seems like the air defenses have been over 90 - 95 % effective for the Israelis .

Just my take on vidio available.

 

[232593]

Wonder what the chances of this working

Is this Israel's next bombshell covert op?

The Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP), buried deep beneath the mountains near the holy city of Qom, is one of Iran's most secretive and heavily fortified nuclear facilities

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[theLBC]

Wonder what the chances of this working

Is this Israel's next bombshell covert op?

The Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP), buried deep beneath the mountains near the holy city of Qom, is one of Iran's most secretive and heavily fortified nuclear facilities

www.dailymail.co.uk

seems like they can fly cruise missiles into those holes in the mountain.
but again, anything like that, or bunker busters, will just leave questions. they cannot know what is going on under there.