Trigger options..... bix n andy triggertech diamond or timney hit

[Baron23]

In my experience, creep is movement before the sear is released. I’ve heard it called pre-play or pre-travel but seems most often called creep.

Movement after is over travel.

Pardon me stating the obvious to many here but there does seem to be some confusion about this in some of the posts in this thread.

I’m not verifying the total precision for the descriptions in this link but you may find it helpful.

Trigger Definitions: Take-Up, Creep, Break, Overtravel, Reset, etc. - Real Gun Reviews

When talking about handgun trigger movements, it’s sometimes hard to keep all the terms and definitions straight. I’ll often see questions like “what’s the difference between take-up and creep?” So this quick-reference article will help you understand the differences and always have the correct...

www.realgunreviews.com

I run TT Diamonds and personally don’t feel the need for over travel but many do like it and we are all entitled to our preferences. I have not experienced any grittiness in my TT triggers. To me, they break very cleanly.

BNA just seems…for ME and me only…too much of a PIA.

 

[carbonbased]

My plan was to buy both and compare but wanted to make sure on the bix n andy part before ordering. Going to call bullet central tomorrow and see what they say about all that.

Heads up. They’re going to ask you if you’ve measured your action. Do that first.

https://bulletcentral.com/content/tech_central_library/tacsport_sear_compatibility_chart.pdf

(Not sure if that’s the most recent chart)

 

[oldrifleman]

In my experience, creep is movement before the sear is released. I’ve heard it called pre-play or pre-travel but seems most often called creep.

Movement after is over travel.

Pardon me stating the obvious to many here but there does seem to be some confusion about this in some of the posts in this thread.

I’m not verifying the total precision for the descriptions in this link but you may find it helpful.

Trigger Definitions: Take-Up, Creep, Break, Overtravel, Reset, etc. - Real Gun Reviews

When talking about handgun trigger movements, it’s sometimes hard to keep all the terms and definitions straight. I’ll often see questions like “what’s the difference between take-up and creep?” So this quick-reference article will help you understand the differences and always have the correct...

www.realgunreviews.com

I run TT Diamonds and personally don’t feel the need for over travel but many do like it and we are all entitled to our preferences. I have not experienced any grittiness in my TT triggers. To me, they break very cleanly.

BNA just seems…for ME and me only…too much of a PIA.

I don’t find TTs to be gritty at all they are very smooth but that is what I did like. The remind me of the electric triggers of the 90s. I love a bit pre travel/ take up and some over travel I also love that I can set my own sear depth. But I concur that those are characteristics that many find annoying. I have always preferred a 2 stage trigger and grew up with Anschutz match triggers. Enjoy the TT, I shot them for many years and have a box of them.

 

[Baron23]

I don’t find TTs to be gritty at all they are very smooth but that is what I did like. The remind me of the electric triggers of the 90s. I love a bit pre travel/ take up and some over travel I also love that I can set my own sear depth. But I concur that those are characteristics that many find annoying. I have always preferred a 2 stage trigger and grew up with Anschutz match triggers. Enjoy the TT, I shot them for many years and have a box of them.

Yeah, while over travel isn’t something I feel I need, I would like a bit of movement before the break if there is a wall so as to ensure I’m married to the trigger shoe properly.

I have a CDG with a Timney 2 stage light. I’m waiting for a barrel on another gun to give up the ghost (6.5 cm w 3,100 rounds on it and it’s still shooting .5 MOA) to strip the chassis and optics to use w the CDG C so I haven’t shot the Timney yet

If I find I really like 2 stage, I’ll prob sell my Diamond single stages and move everything to 2 stage. I’ve shot other people’s rifles w 2 stage but never really enough to eval if that’s my preference. But I do think I’ll really like the 2 stage.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[4O6shootist]

Does the 2 stage TT have over travel after the break, or is it dead wall like the single?

 

[oldrifleman]

It is dead after the break, at least mine were

 

[secondofangle2]

Who tuned those ones??

I'll admit. My first Bix, I got it and tried adjusting/tuning it and i was NOT thrilled. It felt mushy and had creep.

I called BulletCentral and they asked me exactly what I wanted it to do and pull distances and weight ( I run all 2 stage).

I sent it in, their guru trigger tuner worked his magic and sent it back..It was like a completely different trigger. First stage pull weight and distance of travel was perfect, solid wall at 2nd stage and broke like a glass rod.

I now have 7 of them, and I had every one tuned to the same spec by BulletCentral.

I have Timney and TT and Jewel here. None come close.

The ones you tried were most likely fucked with by someone that didnt know how to properly tuned them. I tried for hours and couldn't get any of mine to feel like they do when BulletCentral tunes them..

Personally, I don’t want a trigger that I have to send off to Bubba to get working properly and I certainly don’t want to do that to seven of them.

I’ll stick with my trigger tech diamond. Absolutely zero creep zero over travel breaks like a glass rod. Get them on sale for under 250 bucks and install it. Turn a screw to the desired weight and I am done.

 

[Schw15]

Bulletcentral doesn't answer the phones anymore it says send an email so waiting on that. A few post up saying they had to send there trigger in to get set is something idk if they even do anymore.

Is the bix n andy reliable trigger? I've read that there not as tough as the triggertech for matches they fail more but you can read a lot of things

 

[oldrifleman]

Bulletcentral doesn't answer the phones anymore it says send an email so waiting on that. A few post up saying they had to send there trigger in to get set is something idk if they even do anymore.

Is the bix n andy reliable trigger? I've read that there not as tough as the triggertech for matches they fail more but you can read a lot of things

They are! Are they maintained free, not really. They are not a sealed trigger like TT. If you shoot a match in heavy dust pop the side plate off and clean it( experience here do not disassemble it,, things fly). They are very user friendly in that you can adjust almost everything. It is not the same feel as the Diamond. There is that voice that says they are garbage, I stand on the other side. I am currently running 7 of them have not had an issue, planning number 8 right now. If you like the feel of the TT diamond, stay with it.

 

[Schw15]

They are! Are they maintained free, not really. They are not a sealed trigger like TT. If you shoot a match in heavy dust pop the side plate off and clean it( experience here do not disassemble it,, things fly). They are very user friendly in that you can adjust almost everything. It is not the same feel as the Diamond. There is that voice that says they are garbage, I stand on the other side. I am currently running 7 of them have not had an issue, planning number 8 right now. If you like the feel of the TT diamond, stay with it.

I was wondering that if you could just pop off the side and dump some lighter fluid or 99.9 achol in it without disassembling it

 

[oldrifleman]

I was wondering that if you could just pop off the side and dump some lighter fluid or 99.9 achol in it without disassembling it

Yep, on the BC website they have a diagram on adjusting and a description of cleaning I think

 

[Schw15]

Yep, on the BC website they have a diagram on adjusting and a description of cleaning I think

I watched them take it a part and it doesn't seem to bad but a lot of small parts haha which i know will happen!!! Thank you going to look at best price around i think the tacsport x is good enough for me.

 

[NateVA]

I watched them take it a part and it doesn't seem to bad but a lot of small parts haha which i know will happen!!! Thank you going to look at best price around i think the tacsport x is good enough for me.

I bought a BnA Pro-X two stage from Redhawk Rifles or whatever their name is. It must have been a returned one because the second stage pull weight screw was stripped to hell. I had to get a new lower sear from BC and install it but it was actually pretty simple. Now I'm very comfortable disassembling and reassembling it for cleaning.

 

[Schw15]

Any real difference between the tacsport x and tacsport x pro? The only difference i seen was lighter pull weight but triggertech says same for special vs diamond but the new rough diamond feels a lot better.

 

[4O6shootist]

Any real difference between the tacsport x and tacsport x pro? The only difference i seen was lighter pull weight but triggertech says same for special vs diamond but the new rough diamond feels a lot better.

Not enough to make a difference unless you sa those extreme low pull weights.

 

[Schw15]

Not enough to make a difference unless you sa those extreme low pull weights.

You run bat igniter did you have to change Sears or anything?

 

[4O6shootist]

You run bat igniter did you have to change Sears or anything?

No, only actions I've had to mess with sear height is zermatt. They need the high sear I believe.

 

[Roadrace33]

It is dead after the break, at least mine were

I think you and another guy were the ones who recommended the Bix tacsport pro X to me a little while back...i now have like 6 of them. Absolutely love them compared to the TT's.

 

[oldrifleman]

I think you and another guy were the ones who recommended the Bix tacsport pro X to me a little while back...i now have like 6 of them. Absolutely love them compared to the TT's.

They are addictive aren't they

 

[4O6shootist]

The TacSportX is a phenomenonal trigger, and they're pretty simple to setup. Trigger feel is secong no none once you have it dialed in.

 

[st1650]

I swapped the TT Diamond 1stage (6oz) to a BnA 2 stage for my early gen RimX because I was getting ignition issue (soft strikes about 5% of the time) due to the the sear height. It's somewhat of a known issue that can be resolved by filing down the cocking piece.
They certainly have a bit more overtravel post break and for a 22 it did affect my shooting negatively slightly initially, also I think I'll need the wider gator shoe. It did resolve the soft strikes, haven't had one in 1000+ rounds.

Still not 100% sold on it, might pull it to put on a hunting gun where it would make more sense