Sidearms & Scatterguns Lever Action thread
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Yeah, GBL is a keeper. Its not ultra tight shooting, but getting 3 rounds in a decent 100Y group off the side of a pack and a rear bag with a shit trigger is good enough to keep messing with.
Recoil with 325 Leverevolution and hybrid 46 was about like a 308 w/o brake or can. Very manageable.
Recoil with 325 Leverevolution and hybrid 46 was about like a 308 w/o brake or can. Very manageable.
Get a 357, you’ll thank me later and so will your bank account when you have to feed it.
For around here a 45-70 won’t do anything a 357 won’t except for remove steel targets from their mounting at close range with stout loads. It’s a lot more fun to shoot, trajectory is similar and you can buy ammo for $.50-$.60/rd.
Hmm I may just do that
I just saw your buddies over at Jax Gun Repair the other day. I may ask them to see if they can find me one in their crates lol
They’ve been listing some but most are Remington made ones that should be avoided like the plague.
The new Ruger guns are the shit. My 357 classic and 44 SBL shoot groups like a really good bolt gun and the fit and finish is better than anything Marlin or Remington made. I’ve got a 45-70 trapper as well that I had to have a few months back that I haven’t shot yet.
I need to take a ride and meet up and shoot some boomsticks so I can see one of them in person
Made the trade. Marlin model 30AW. JM stamped. Other than being zeroed, I dont think it was even used. Now to get a can on it.
Sadly, I got it with that very intention. This will replace my 300 blackout. It may get the full modern treatment eventually.
Cycle it with a good gun lube a couple times. Maybe make sure the bolt is clean and free of any junk.
I did a Rossi m92, started by oiling and cycling it like 1-200 times. Slightly better.
Disassembled and polished everything I could see made contact, deburred edges, etc. decently better.
Bought a spring kit from Steve’s Guns and followed his instructions, that made it slick as snot on a glass doorknob!
How that applies to the marlin? No idea. lol.
I believe the marlin 30aw is basically a marlin 336 on the inside. I would cycle it a bunch, then disassemble and carefully polish everything that shows any wear from contact.
For example, on the Model 92 the strong ejector spring created friction that could never be polished away, so all by itself just the lighter ejector spring in the m92 made a big difference.
Any Lever Action can be improved by sitting down to your favorite movie (spaghetti westerns or John Wayne movies work well) and cycle the action the whole time.
I’ve found through experience that replacing some parts and cycling the action does better than a “race ready” action job.
I’ve found through experience that replacing some parts and cycling the action does better than a “race ready” action job.
He's correct.
However, don't do the cycling like they do in the movies.
Three fingers go into the lever loop and they stay there. Rifle stays on the shoulder. Trigger finger gets a slight lift outward from the trigger as you cycle it.
You'll learn very quickly if you're not moving your trigger finger enough...
I'll pull it apart, clean and oil it well, then I'll sit down with it and watch a fistful of dollars.
I have only replaced the trigger, sear, and springs in one levergun out of several I have owned, but it made a world of difference. Cycles like butter and brought the trigger weight down from around 6 pounds to about 2 or 3. I highly recommend it.
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Are 336 parts the same as this 30AW ? I looked on their site and didn't see anything 30aw specific.Ranger Point Precision.
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My understanding was the 30aw was kind of a dressed down 336, but the same internally.
FN Browning BLR in .308 mounted with a Zeiss 4x32 purchased as a teenager in 1973. The FN's were only manufactured for 1 year before production was shifted to Japan. This rifle has been the demise of quite a few deer and elk over the years although mostly a safe queen these days.
Ruger No. 1 in 220 Swift with Leupold scope (forgot the model). Shot out the factory barrel and the late Robert Gradous installed a Krieger 4 groove 1:12 just before his passing. D'Arcy Echols made the mounts and a work of art.
Ruger No. 1 in 220 Swift with Leupold scope (forgot the model). Shot out the factory barrel and the late Robert Gradous installed a Krieger 4 groove 1:12 just before his passing. D'Arcy Echols made the mounts and a work of art.
Henry X-Model .45-70 in action last fall. I've replaced the scope with a Swaro Z5i for this season.
Wife's Henry American Beauty 22lr.
Wife's Henry American Beauty 22lr.
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More like Broken Body!
. According to Memsahib, I went back into symmetry when I blew out my Right Shoulder (both knees, both shoulders, neck and lower back have noticeable damage).You should have seen me trying to compete with an arm in a sling and very little use of it.
The sight set-up on the 1873, Beech front sight and a Marbles Tang Sight.
For those that shoot suppressed, especially 45-70, is there any issue with leading in the suppressor? I shoot nothing but cast in mine and was thinking of getting a suppressor for it.
Just get a rock tumbler and tumble your baffles with SS pins and soapy water every once in a while, that is, assuming that you get a user-serviceable can.
Here’s one of my favorites. JM Marlin 336 Cowboy 30-30. I love the balance and it’s a good shooter, very consistent 1.5 moa or less with any ammo I stick in it. I scoped it just to see what it was capable of and shot it out to 600 yards on steel. I videoed with my iPhone on slow-mo through my spotting scope and you could see the bullet drop down at hit the 14x16 steel; I hit it 4 out of 5 times with the scope set at 4x so I could use the bottom of the reticle as an aiming point. Lots of fun. Now I play with it with open sights.
Here’s another one of my favorites. Japchester 1886 takedown 45-70. I rented a .458 reamer to throat the barrel so I can load bullets over the standard 405. I also installed a reproduction Lyman 21 and an adjustable peep. It’s @MK20 ’s fault I bought it, he gave me the heads up as to its location.
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I shoot my 45-70 though a Dead Air Primal (sealed can). I cast for it but also powder coat my bullets. So far zero issues and I don't see there being any issue. I also cast 150gr 9mm hp subs and shoot those though a DA Ghost so I can take it apart and look around but no lead and no fouling of any type. For the 45-70 I've been shooting 340gr and 490gr Lyman molds but just got a 420gr MP HP mold that will probably become my main load once I find a good load. Cheap to shoot using something like 3N37 or N320 powder.
Nice! I've got a 94 in 32WS with a Lyman 21 (Climbing Ladder) on it, but need the sight is in parts (been that way since I got it) and need to figure out how to put it back together. 1923 production.
My Marlin (Ruger) Dark 45-70. Wanted a threaded rifle and a bit more "modern". I've got a bunch of older lever guns, so wanted to play with this one. Current setup has ARC X-Low rings, Leupold FX-II 2.5x Scout scope, Timney trigger (with the OE spring), Dead Air Primal, and Emissary handbrake. Tried a red dot for a bit and the WWG Happy Trigger and loading gate. Need to slick it up a bit more (has a slight catch sometimes after you fire it, the lever gets "sticky").
Shooting cast and powder coated bullets, Lyman 490gr (457406GC) and Lee 340gr (457-340-F), and just got a new MP mold that will be 420gr HP. Most of my loads are with 3N37, but tried some N320, Titegroup, IMR4227. 3031 for "regular" loads but have been waiting on the new mold to do more than just make subsonic plinkers. Got a bunch of starline brass when they had it in stock a few months ago, so I'm good there. So far it's a hoot- and cheap to shoot!
Now I want the SBL 38/357.
Shooting cast and powder coated bullets, Lyman 490gr (457406GC) and Lee 340gr (457-340-F), and just got a new MP mold that will be 420gr HP. Most of my loads are with 3N37, but tried some N320, Titegroup, IMR4227. 3031 for "regular" loads but have been waiting on the new mold to do more than just make subsonic plinkers. Got a bunch of starline brass when they had it in stock a few months ago, so I'm good there. So far it's a hoot- and cheap to shoot!
Now I want the SBL 38/357.
Would you suggest this over a Henry X? I am still torn between these two. I can use accessories from ranger point precision to make the X more “tactical” and that whole setup would still be cheaper than what the 1895 dark is going for these days.
I liked the Dark but one big thing for me was the height of the comb on the stock. If you are going to run a red dot or a scope, the extra height is good. Plus being able to mount a light in the front and a scope or red dot on the pic rail was a plus.
Didn't realize we had a lever gun thread. Here's my latest acquisition for the category...
I had started a thread on it here when I picked it up about two weeks ago but suffice to say Jurassic Park and Marlin's marketing had me hooked.
Quick question for the lever aficionados hear- I'm looking at ordering a few accoutrements for this and another lever rifle I have, specifically a leather butt cuff & leather lever wrap such as below:
For those that have experience with those additions any concerns/complaints? I'm concerned that while the leather wrap for the lever might add in comfort it potentially could/would trap moisture & introduce rust issues and the cuff potentially rotting where it sits against the stock if it gets wet.
Appreciate any insight there.
-LD
I had started a thread on it here when I picked it up about two weeks ago but suffice to say Jurassic Park and Marlin's marketing had me hooked.
Quick question for the lever aficionados hear- I'm looking at ordering a few accoutrements for this and another lever rifle I have, specifically a leather butt cuff & leather lever wrap such as below:
For those that have experience with those additions any concerns/complaints? I'm concerned that while the leather wrap for the lever might add in comfort it potentially could/would trap moisture & introduce rust issues and the cuff potentially rotting where it sits against the stock if it gets wet.
Appreciate any insight there.
-LD
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