Precision Rifle Gear Chad vs Botnia

[R_A_W]

x3 on RecoilX/Scythe Ti pushing reticle down under target while shooting positional

-0.4mils under for 25GT 135 Hybrids @ 2750fps
-0.4mils under for 25x47 135 Hybrids @ 2760, 2820fps
-1.8mils under for 6.5cm 153.5 Hybrids @ 2660, 2690, 2730fps

Ordered a RecoilX when I got home

 

[epracmetcon]

Concur on the reticle getting pushed down slightly with the RecoilX Comp and honestly I like that. It means my reticle isn't obscuring the target picture and I'm able to pick things up better.
Good to see someone here who's shot the gen 2 brake on a can have similar results. There's a huge difference from the Gen 1 brake/Magnus brake to the Gen 2 brake.

I shot my maverick in the short config on the same rifle at a match the weekend before. I would almost say the scythe/gen2 brake is marginally better than the maverick on the same rifle.

 

[CK1.0]

Seems like either the CHAD or Botnia will get it done for guys looking for the bleeding edge of aggressive brakes (and allegedly the Preece Stinger or the DN5 getting close for a lot less loot).

But caveat emptor, that concussion comes with a cost to your health, hearing for sure, the headache and feeling beat up stuff is real too IME.

You can’t hide from concussion, ear pro or not, it shakes the shit out of one’s inner ear and makes you deaf faster, facts.

I’ve been running an ACE with their cone of shame for a while and it’s a pussycat and does enough. Does it reduce recoil as much as the others? No. But IMO it’s the next best thing to the braked-cans that are now starting to get interesting (like that Magnus/RecoilX, etc). I just bring it up because some guys might prefer how calm it is behind the gun with a setup like mine or a different approach to just going full blow your hair back… playing with gun weight and working on better fundamentals can close most of the gap in performance for most I bet.

I always have double ear pro when around these guns (custom plugs under gel-cup Sordins’) and hope the rest of you guys do to. Everyone’s needs are different I guess, but for me I want a balance of the best performance I can get, without going deaf faster than I have to. YMMV.

Brakes are fun though now and again, maybe it’s just a choice of whether you want one that looks like a dildo or a spaceship?

 

[JR1200W3]

Here's some testing on this topic. He's using a weird suppressor brake combo but I think his testing process is on. It will be interesting when he does these same tests on PRS relevant suppressors/ brakes/ rifles/ and cartridges.

The BLUF is the recoil performance of a suppressor brake wasn't significant on a 308W but came alive on a 300WM. When he tested a braked suppressor on a 300WM the difference between braked and suppressor -braked was insignificant. And both weren't that much better than just plain suppressed. Which supports most of the testimonials in the last couple of posts.

 

[rydah]

Here's some testing on this topic. He's using a weird suppressor brake combo but I think his testing process is on. It will be interesting when he does these same tests on PRS relevant suppressors/ brakes/ rifles/ and cartridges.

The BLUF is the recoil performance of a suppressor brake wasn't significant on a 308W but came alive on a 300WM. When he tested a braked suppressor on a 300WM the difference between braked and suppressor -braked was insignificant. And both weren't that much better than just plain suppressed. Which supports most of the testimonials in the last couple of posts.

The gas coming out of a silencer is vastly different to the gas coming out of your muzzle. So you can’t just make a brake that works on the end of your muzzle and expect it to make the same difference on the end of a silencer. The science doesn’t support it and both his tests confirm that.

 

[JR1200W3]

The gas coming out of a silencer is vastly different to the gas coming out of your muzzle. So you can’t just make a brake that works on the end of your muzzle and expect it to make the same difference on the end of a silencer. The science doesn’t support it and both his tests confirm that.

Ya, I guess we're seeing that with revisions of the Recoil X brake. I also wonder what the scale of his graphs are. The differences look insignificant but I think what he doesn't know yet and what we can't tell by looking at his screenshots is what is noticable to the shooter in his numbers.

His testing has some cool potentials. I'm curious about the effect of weight in the gun. There's no consensus on what weight people go for. On any given match day the people in my squad will have a 20lb rifle, 25lb, 28lb. So does buying an extremely aggressive muzzle brake make sense when you haven't already added weight to the gun? It would be interesting for him to test the recoil while adding weight. Like 15, 20, 23, 26, 29. The recock to 15 and add a Chad or Botnia and increase weight. How much weight is free recoil mitigation? Especially with small cartridges that have a hard time activating brakes or suppressor brakes.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

New brake enters the chat:

Corson piper brake. Makes a smaller 4 port ( one I have) threaded 5/8 and a larger 5 port for 3/4. Shot it at a match for the first time and performed very well. Not quite as effective as the Chad but it's half the price and weight while performing very well. Baffle designs are sort of similar to a DN5.

 

[Tier1nub]

Call me silly but I really like the way Chad brake looks on a bull 24” barrel!