A Jew a Zionist walk into a bar.


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A camera, so you can look inside your rectum. So you don't have to walk around with your head shoved up your ass.


Serious contributions to the defense industry.

Shared intel in the region.

Protection of the holy lands so the hords don't destroy it.

Keeper of the only land bridge connecting Africa to Asia.

Computer chips, First on used by IBM.

Facial ID used on Apple software.

USB flash drives.

There is a ton of shit they have contributed. Google Israeli inventions.
Is that sarcasm?
There's inventions from all over the world.
Too bad they couldn't invent a Patriot Missile system for self protection.
Protecting the Holy Land? How's that strategic for the USA? It would be a real shame if Americans and others couldn't spend money in their country while touring them.
The land bridge? Shirley you jest.
Now if you had said that they were good at money laundering. I would not disagree
 
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being anti Israel is NOT the same as being anti Semitic or pro Hamas. actually it seems Hamas is or would be the consensus gov in Gaza,w.bank "Palestine". oh,oh,oh their elections aren't honest. and the US would be a shining example of honest elections? what a joke.
some say we can be allies of Israel without kissing their ass. ridiculous as our corrupt exec and esp congress have been bowing down to them since at least '67ish. the regime change wars in ME were very much to the benefit of Israel (and our MIC).
but the Arabs might over run them or the Persians could turn it into a smoking pile of rubble. who cares? that is highly unlikely to affect anyone's life in the US. goat fuckers would still need to sell us oil. plus we got a bunch to hold us for awhile.
we have a goat fucker problem INSIDE this country that needs dealing with. keep any new ones out as a part of that.
the only thing that would change is a multi,multi billion $ savings to help with our 40 tril $ debt,which we can't afford. Israel going away would do nothing but put off our economic collapse for a bit.
our fundamentalist fanatics say we have to save the people of the book! good,pick up a rifle and go help or send your sons and grandsons to die for them. Marco,Lindsey and Pete will give you and them a choice of which useless piece of land and corrupt gov to die for.
i mean after all Israel (and Ukraine) are much more important than keeping American interests 1st.
 
Hadn't heard of this before.

Given the thread it landed in I'm not sure it's what I think it is after googling it.

Like the golden calf, only for Leon's penis....not this (me) Leon, this Leon:

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Is that sarcasm?
There's inventions from all over the world.
Too bad they couldn't invent a Patriot Missile system for self protection.
Protecting the Holy Land? How's that strategic for the USA? It would be a real shame if Americans and others couldn't spend money in their country while touring them.
The land bridge? Shirley you jest.
Now if you had said that they were good at money laundering. I would not disagree
Not sarcasm.

The rectal cam is real, and would allow you to pull your head out of your ass. Comes in pill form.

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Since you giggled I dug a little more. I guess I'm not up to speed on the topic.

This is what I found the first time.

Digging deeper I ran across this

They need to revise that document to annotate that the Epstein case was a "hoax."

...but damn, "Marty" took you further into the rabbi-hole (see what I did there?) than I could have.

That's a pretty heavy document with a lot of the usual culprits who run in those circles making cameo appearances....above my pay grade (not that my 'golden penis' reference wasn't profound), but grabbing a beer and will give it a once-over. (y)

PS: Only "giggled," because you said you only turned up "specialises in medical appraisals" and little did you know what you would find under the surface, eh? :)
 
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It’s astounding to me the number of “Christians” in these threads that resort the childish insults and vile names when they disagree. I’m sure Jesus is smiling at all of this (sarcasm).
To the Jew/zionist discussion-the Jews most certainly hated Jesus. In fact they hated him so much that they chose a murderer to be released (barabus) instead of Jesus. It wasn’t the Romans that crucified him, it was the Jews, and Jesus was a Jew himself. They hated him because he claimed to be God, and they still deny that he is God. The Bible teaches us that the Jews will eventually turn back to Jesus about the same time the the whole world turns against them. I also believe in America first, but America is losing my respect with their evil and debauchery. So I am actually not America first-I’m Christian, and I’m Jesus and his kingdom first. America won’t survive. It will burn just like the rest. We are probably closer to the end than most even know.
 
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What does the United States get out of the relationship with Israel? Everyone says that they are a "strategic partner" in the region but no one can say how they are. What are they bringing to the table?
Every SaEDA briefing I ever went to, back when SaEDA was taught, ALWAYS had Israel in the top three collectors of US information.

With “friends” like that….
 
It’s astounding to me

I'll bite since I don't lay claim to being "Christian" and have met very few I would consider worthy of claiming the title. First clue, many of them don't believe they deserve the title ... truly ... not false modesty.

But you shouldn't be astounded. The bible is written or cobbled together in such a way that it will help someone find "the path" or expose their true selves through how they spread "the word".

Most of Jesus' own words are very tolerant and nearly always they come from a place of teaching and acceptance. Because that's what really works. That's what really reaches people. But, it works for both good and evil. When kids don't feel accepted at home they WILL find someone who accepts them. All too often they find acceptance in counterculture. There's a reason for the recurring theme of the "preacher's daughter" who's never good enough at home.

But a few of the Apostles are a bit more heavy handed with the rebuke, retribution and damnation talk. Some people focus on this and it becomes the message they deliver in the name of Jesus/God. More of a "if you don't comply you will never see eternal life".
 
I believe some take strong opinions as “literal violence” but this is how men debate and hash things out. I don’t agree with name calling outside of understood terms about the topic but that has been minimal really.

We need to understand that while the Gospel is the most important, other things could have dire consequences if misunderstood. The very Elect could be deceived because of a failure to grasp things in their correct context.

Romans 11 being a very good example.
 
I'll bite since I don't lay claim to being "Christian" and have met very few I would consider worthy of claiming the title. First clue, many of them don't believe they deserve the title ... truly ... not false modesty.

But you shouldn't be astounded. The bible is written or cobbled together in such a way that it will help someone find "the path" or expose their true selves through how they spread "the word".

Most of Jesus' own words are very tolerant and nearly always they come from a place of teaching and acceptance. Because that's what really works. That's what really reaches people. But, it works for both good and evil. When kids don't feel accepted at home they WILL find someone who accepts them. All too often they find acceptance in counterculture. There's a reason for the recurring theme of the "preacher's daughter" who's never good enough at home.

But a few of the Apostles are a bit more heavy handed with the rebuke, retribution and damnation talk. Some people focus on this and it becomes the message they deliver in the name of Jesus/God. More of a "if you don't comply you will never see eternal life".
Being a Christian doesn't mean you're perfect. That is not how it works, no one is or ever will be.

There are alot of bad christans out there who treat people like shit.

Which is why the trans community is targeting and killing them. Notice none of these recent attacks are coming from Jews... Its comming from kids raised the in the church. If you look at some of the retarded brain droppings posted here... its pretty obvious why.
 
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I wouldn’t call them Christians then. That would be hypocrite. There are more of those than true Christians.
I don’t know exactly how to categorize that, none are perfect, I know I aint. But the whole idea is that we aren’t perfect, and can be saved by gods grace.

Its not that they aren't Christian, its that they really need to work on them selves. With the caveat that some are so far off, Id consider them the deceiver, counterfeiting the voice of the spirit. Lying and what not, they need to atone for their mistakes. Until they do, they are not in his grace.
 
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I don’t know exactly how to categorize that, none are perfect, I know I aint. But the whole idea is that we aren’t perfect, and can be saved by gods grace.

Its not that they aren't Christian, its that they really need to work on them selves. With the caveat that some are so far off, Id consider them the deceiver, counterfeiting the voice of the spirit. Lying and what not, they need to atone for their mistakes. Until they do, they are not in his grace.
Right. What I mean is the guy calls himself a Christian and is ripping off and robbing widows, is not a Christian.
Or the guy cussing out employees and customers, then tries to witness to em later that afternoon.

When confronted they lie and deceive. I think sinners and saint alike can agree that is not Christian?
 
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Right. What I mean is the guy calls himself a Christian and is ripping off and robbing widows, is not a Christian.
Or the guy cussing out employees and customers, then tries to witness to em later that afternoon.

When confronted they lie and deceive. I think sinners and saint alike can agree that is not Christian?
At that moment no they aren’t saved, because you must atone.

Yeah I see what you are getting at.
 
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because you must atone

Which some interpret to be as long as you're making an effort, going to church, going to confession and doing some good things it makes up for the bad things they keep doing.

The way they act out, the way the treat other people, the way they hate other people because those people refuse to follow Jesus or follow Jesus the "right" way. Sometimes even citing Jesus or his teachings as the reason it's OK to hate them.

Kinda the point of the Dogma links above.

Atonement isn't a carwash and a vacuum just before trading in.
 
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Which some interpret to be as long as you're making an effort, going to church, going to confession and doing some good things it makes up for the bad things they keep doing.

The way they act out, the way the treat other people, the way they hate other people because those people refuse to follow Jesus or follow Jesus the "right" way. Sometimes even citing Jesus or his teachings as the reason it's OK to hate them.

Kinda the point of the Dogma links above.

Atonement isn't a carwash and a vacuum just before trading in.
The way its was explained to me, is your soul will be saved, but that doesn’t mean you won’t be judged when crossed over. If done in a vac and a car wash effort, he will know. It must be true, those calls are above my “ pay grade”.

I hear your point.

I am still trying to wrap my head around it myself.
 
your soul will be saved, but that doesn’t mean you won’t be judged when crossed over

This is along the lines of if you believe then your salvation is guaranteed and your actions on earth determine the level of the rewards showered on you in eternal life. Basically whether or not you get the 72 virgins.

Faith in Christ is all you need to avoid hell and get into heaven. Judgement based on your earthly works determines eternal rewards only.

You can believe then go around killing, whoring, gambling, stealing, whatever and your salvation is secure but your seat will be in the nosebleed section behind a post at the main event rather than floor seats.

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This is along the lines of if you believe then your salvation is guaranteed and your actions on earth determine the level of the rewards showered on you in eternal life. Basically whether or not you get the 72 virgins.

Faith in Christ is all you need to avoid hell and get into heaven. Judgement based on your earthly works determines eternal rewards only.

You can believe then go around killing, whoring, gambling, stealing, whatever and your salvation is secure but your seat will be in the nosebleed section behind a post at the main event rather than floor seats.
72 virgins is no where in the Koran. It comes from hadiths that with in Islam are too argued over.

Its not just believeing, its genuinely atoning for those sins.

Again, As I stated, that judgment, is above my pay grade.
 
You can believe then go around killing, whoring, gambling, stealing, whatever and your salvation is secure but your seat will be in the nosebleed section behind a post at the main event rather than floor seats.
Man! I’m gonna live it up then! You all might read about me in the news…😆

So how does a guy get to hell? Asking for a friend.
 
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This is along the lines of if you believe then your salvation is guaranteed and your actions on earth determine the level of the rewards showered on you in eternal life. Basically whether or not you get the 72 virgins.

Faith in Christ is all you need to avoid hell and get into heaven. Judgement based on your earthly works determines eternal rewards only.

You can believe then go around killing, whoring, gambling, stealing, whatever and your salvation is secure but your seat will be in the nosebleed section behind a post at the main event rather than floor seats.

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Heat lighting flash, but don't blink
Misleading
Tranquility ruse
You're gonna happen again
That's what I think
Follow the evidence
Look it dead in the eye
You are darkness
Trying to lull us in, before the havoc begins
Into a dubious state of serenity
Acting all surprised when you're caught in the lie
We know better
It's not unlike you
It's not unlike you
We know your nature
Blame it all on the bastards when you're blowing out
Shame on you
Shame on you, now
No amount of wind could to begin to cover up your petulant stench and demeanor
Calm as cookies and cream, so it seems
We're not buying your dubious state of serenity
Acting all surprised when you're caught in the lie
We know better
It's not unlike you
It's not unlike you
We know your nature
Calm before the torrent comes
Calm before the torrent comes
Calm before the torrent comes
Calm before the tempest comes to reign all over
Disputing intentions invites devastation
A tempest must be true to its nature
A tempest must be just that
A tempest must be just that
A tempest must be just that
A tempest must be just that
A tempest must be just that
A tempest must be just that
A tempest must be just that
A tempest must be just that
Control, your delusion
Insane and striking at random
Victim of your certainty
And therefore your doubt's not an option
Blameless, the tempest will be just that
So try as you may, feeble, your attempt to atone
Your words to erase all the damage

cannot

A tempest must be just that


Funny, that Tool lyrics seem to tackle that query.

 
This is along the lines of if you believe then your salvation is guaranteed and your actions on earth determine the level of the rewards showered on you in eternal life. Basically whether or not you get the 72 virgins.

Faith in Christ is all you need to avoid hell and get into heaven. Judgement based on your earthly works determines eternal rewards only.

You can believe then go around killing, whoring, gambling, stealing, whatever and your salvation is secure but your seat will be in the nosebleed section behind a post at the main event rather than floor seats.

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Also, how familiar are you with the story of Saul/Paul. His transition?
 
Interesting. Sola fide has entered the chat, again...

Without citing the one guy in the Bible who presupposed this, are you sure, sir?

Ho'dup. I'm not preaching it.

I think it's alluded to in a couple places. Only one book comes to mind (Romans?) and I *think* I recall correctly who the author is but I am by no means a biblical scholar. I think that book was written by the same guy the the green guy presents as an example of how easy it is to get past the goalie. I can't remember the other reference but my mind could easily be tricking me into thinking there is another.
 
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72 virgins is no where in the Koran.

Duh.

But "rewards" are not specified so you can't prove it's not 72 virgins or a deluxe apartment in the sky or drinking and fighting.

Its not just believeing, its genuinely atoning for those sins.
your soul will be saved, but that doesn’t mean you won’t be judged when crossed over

So what does "atone" actually mean in your religion and how does it affect, if at all, salvation of your soul?

Earlier you separated the concepts of salvation and judgement. How exactly do you get one without the other in your religion?

If you can get salvation before you're judged what does judgement determine exactly?
 
Ho'dup. I'm not preaching it.

I think it's alluded to in a couple places. Only one book comes to mind (Romans?) and I *think* I recall correctly who the author is but I am by no means a biblical scholar. I think that book was written by the same guy the the green guy presents as an example of how easy it is to get past the goalie. I can't remember the other reference but my mind could easily be tricking me into thinking there is another.
Yes, sir, it's sprinkled in Romans and Galatians, notably—"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." Faith alone, though it was the Catholic Martin Luther that added the word "alone" to the argument, but the text is clear that Paul argued we can just believe and get one of the coveted 144,000 seats on the bus.
 
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Duh.

But "rewards" are not specified so you can't prove it's not 72 virgins or a deluxe apartment in the sky or drinking and fighting.




So what does "atone" actually mean in your religion and how does it affect, if at all, salvation of your soul?

Earlier you separated the concepts of salvation and judgement. How exactly do you get one without the other in your religion?

If you can get salvation before you're judged what does judgement determine exactly?
Thats a lot of questions.

If you wanna shoot me a $20 I’ll give you the answers