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Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Teggy1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


After watching the second video, I agree the officer was not trying to pull her across the table, as you stated.

Tell my why there are three people who attempt to mitigate the actions of officer 1? Woman in red dress approaches from behind and to his left. Places hand on left shoulder and attempts to get his attention. 2nd- woman who got decked. 3rd, officer 2. After watching the second video, there is NO way you can say officer 2 is doing nothing else but attempting to stop what is currently happening.

</div></div> You want to know why foolish people get involved in things they shouldn't be, I can't, if I could I'd be rich. Let me enlighten you just a little about these types of situations. It's not uncommon for a 'friend' to try and 'come to the rescue' while their buddy is getting the bracelets put on him. People do stupid things, but I know what your saying and I HIGHLY doubt that it's because the black girl has a medical condition for pete's sake! Otherwise the only thing the lady in the black dress would have to do is yell it to the Officer once, and things would have changed, so seeing this girl in the dress tugging and pulling on the Officer (as seen on the second video) that tells me she is acting foolish and trying to interfere... And BTW, she is not "just trying to get his attention" as you state, she is plain interfering because she probably doesn't like the fact that her friend is going to jail.

If you watch the video that woman in the black dress is allowed to interfere WAY longer than she should have been. That partner should have been on her like stink on shit! When my partner is in a tug-of-war match with a suspect and I see someone else reaching for my partner, she would have gotten yanked out of that chair and removed from the situation IMMEDIATELY... And as I would be pulling her out of the chair would be her chance to say.."Officer, that girl has a medical condition" which is obviously not the case...
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Socalsheepdog</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In my opinion, it looked like the officer lost focus, slapped the woman, then took a swing at her when she started hitting him. If she'd scratched him and damaged his eyes, what use of force would be justified?</div></div>

What most don't understand is the officer does not have to wait for the damage to happen before he raises his level of force. LEO, by policy (most agencies these days) get to go directly to the force necessary to make the arrest or stop the fight. We don't know what damage the suspect was planning to do but we know the intent to do harm was there so the officer took action to stop it.

As far as my Jab comment, I was trying to be funny in room with a lot of mud flying. </div></div>

I know that as a citizen of Kentucky, I have the right to defend myself in this state against force using the same level of force reciprocally. Also, I don't have to wait for someone to take a swing at me before defending myself. If I can tell that there's a threat of physical violence toward my person, I can counter that threat using reasonable non-lethal force to stop the situation.

I would think that LEOs have similar rules, no matter what department they're in. The woman who got punched should never have touched the officer to begin with. If someone is pulling on my shoulder, getting loud and in my face, I would consider that a threat no matter what the person's gender is.

The whole thing is a bad situation, and the partner of the arresting officer (IMO) should have asked the patrons in the booth behind punchee to exit so he could get behind her and restrain her while the arresting officer dealt with the original arrestee.

The bottom line is if you lay hands on an Officer, especially while said Officer is dealing with someone else, you should expect to be laid on your face and arrested along with the other person. Nobody is above the law, and that includes LEOs. If they make an arrest in error, use improper procedure, violate your rights, etc. then you can use the court system to make sure that justice is served on both ends. Fighting the arrest or the Officer is only going to get you bruised and charged with more than you're originally charged with.
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

I probly would have decked the bitch too. If it were a one on one situation between the cops and the woman in question then yes, there is definitely a better way of handling it.

In this case, there was waaayy too much happening for the cops to have time to carefully calculate and scrutinize every move they made...

As soon as she touched his collar, her face should have been in that table. Pretty sure at that point, whether the cop slapped her or just tried to restrain her she would have still resisted. If she had the balls to start swinging she would have resisted for sure either way.
 
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I love you arm chair QB fagots. Next time you see someone getting arrested just jump in. You can get your ass kicked, and we can start a thread about how you were wronged. GD! Keep your fucking hands to yourself or get your ass beat. Simple.
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love you arm chair QB fagots. Next time you see someone getting arrested just jump in. You can get your ass kicked, and we can start a thread about how you were wronged. GD! Keep your fucking hands to yourself or get your ass beat. Simple. </div></div>

And it's posts like this that make it harder to show respect for LEO.
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

I don't believe any LEO here is asking for your respect. They are asking people to mind their own business and to keep their hands to themselves. Don't interfere with anyone doing their job, and if you do any of the above be prepared to deal with the consequences. Everyone already knows this and shouldn't have to be told.
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love you arm chair QB fagots. Next time you see someone getting arrested just jump in. You can get your ass kicked, and we can start a thread about how you were wronged. GD! Keep your fucking hands to yourself or get your ass beat. Simple. </div></div>

I am not sure that this is the LE level of professionalism that many wanted to see and I understand that you do not repressent all here. Probably not the way to represent what is supposed to be the "higher standard". You might want to re-evaluate your approach?

Now for me to chip in about what you wrote.
Just mind your own business. Great words to live by
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If that was the case America would be such a better place. Recipricate that policy and all will be well, how about when the bounds of that job are overstepped? Should we "mind" our own business then also? When shouldn't we mind our business?

Obviously you are an outstanding American
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If I was "petty" I would reference this post anytime an LE officer got his or her ass kicked and I should after your post! However I think it is not needed since most in the LE profession are "professionals" and understand the benefit of a good discusion over such topics.

Just my .02
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Teggy1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gunman_7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #FF0000">Well lets take a look at these statements....</span>

Teggy1 said:
1st of all, if you watch the video second by second, her hand was on the officers left shoulder when he struck her, she was not striking the officer (initially). She was also looking at officer 1, not bitting him (as someone alluded to).

2nd: What is officer 2 doing? He is behind officer 1, his hands/arms are around officer 1. WHY? <span style="color: #FF0000">What does this have to do with the actions of the female??? But since you brought it up I would have had a word with my partner after wards...</span>

3rd: After officer 1 slaps her, she retaliates, and starts swinging. Obviously this is not a wise decision. <span style="color: #FF0000">Agreed, and in doing so she opened a can of whoop ass that she was not smart enough to leave shut.</span>

4th: How the hell can anyone say that is a legitimate attempt to detain someone? Trying to pull someone over a table? <span style="color: #FF0000">Well here is a perfect example of how video doesn't tell you everything, go watch the second one and it clearly shows the first female he is trying to get at is evading him and pulling away to the other side of the table, and besides the Officer is not reaching across the table, he is reaching down the length of the seat, maybe watch the video before posting inaccuracies...</span>

Now, perception is reality, so...... what was the intent of the woman that was struck? <span style="color: #FF0000">Pretty obvious, to interfere with a lawful arrest...</span>
Was she interfering? Possibly.<span style="color: #FF0000">POSSIBLY?!?! Are you kidding?!?!</span> Why? who knows?

Is it possible to say she is in a position of neutrality? <span style="color: #FF0000">It don't matter what her take is, get the fuck out of the way. I don't care if she likes that fact her friend is getting arrested, she has NO business getting herself involved PERIOD!</span>

ie: similar to the position you would be in trying to keep people separated? It could be viewed as such. One could argue the individual in the booth was having a medical condition that prevents her from obeying orders. <span style="color: #FF0000">Don't care if she has a medical condition, Officers can't go around asking every junkie and out of control ass hole if they have a medical condition while they are being assaulted.</span> From what we saw she was not combative. <span style="color: #FF0000">Again, she is interfering, in a situation that is quickly escalating, The law states that what she did there is defined as assault besides interfering, look it up, it's your law...</span>

Have officers ever been dispatched to a scene of someone not coherent? Could it be diabetic shock? Is that a plausible reason? This statement makes you look like a complete fool, and tells me right away you have not the faintest idea of what a diabetic shock or any other medical situation looks like, honestly your really grabbing at straws here<span style="color: #FF0000">...</span>

The FACT is YOU/WE don't know, and CAN NOT say for certain. <span style="color: #FF0000">Yes we can know for certain, I can clearly see the female interfering with an lawful arrest, and I clearly could see the Officer give her a distraction slap to disengage her from the escalating situation.
</span>No one's opinion of what happened matters, LEO or civi's, because none of us was there. <span style="color: #FF0000">Your right there for once, none of the opinions mater, but when ignorant people jump and band wagons and start screaming BAD COP, BAD COP! It changes others perspectives of LEO's, which inter makes our job more dangerous and makes that chance on me coming back to my family each night just a little less... So yes LEO's tend to like to defend themselves from the negative onslaught that a fast growing number of misinformed ignorant public...END OF STORY...</span>
We do not see what initiated the conflict, the fact is, LE was called (unless they were dining) for a reason.

IF some one see's something different than what I saw in the video, lay it out, and I'll re-review the video. <span style="color: #FF0000">I did the best I could, now it's up to you to think about things more than one way, good luck...
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-Chris
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After watching the second video, I agree the officer was not trying to pull her across the table, as you stated.

Tell my why there are three people who attempt to mitigate the actions of officer 1? Woman in red top approaches from behind and to his left. Places hand on left shoulder and attempts to get his attention. 2nd- woman who got decked. 3rd, officer 2. After watching the second video, there is NO way you can say officer 2 is doing nothing else but attempting to stop what is currently happening. Same as the woman in red as well as the woman who got decked.
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Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

Heck of a funny video, made a bunch of us here in class laugh for a good few minutes.Why didnt the bald cop help out a little more when the girl was poking the officer? He should have put a stop to that shit emediatly. The punch was the cop losing his cool and going back to cave man instinct (BASH!!), other measures could have been takin. 2 cops against one girl, come on the whole thing could have been handled better. I understand the woman didn't do a damn thing right but still.
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefan73</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love you arm chair QB fagots. Next time you see someone getting arrested just jump in. You can get your ass kicked, and we can start a thread about how you were wronged. GD! Keep your fucking hands to yourself or get your ass beat. Simple. </div></div>

I am not sure that this is the LE level of professionalism that many wanted to see and I understand that you do not repressent all here. Probably not the way to represent what is supposed to be the "higher standard". You might want to re-evaluate your approach?

Now for me to chip in about what you wrote.
Just mind your own business. Great words to live by
whistle.gif


If that was the case America would be such a better place. Recipricate that policy and all will be well, how about when the bounds of that job are overstepped? Should we "mind" our own business then also? When shouldn't we mind our business?

Obviously you are an outstanding American
rolling_eyes_phone.jpg


If I was "petty" I would reference this post anytime an LE officer got his or her ass kicked and I should after your post! However I think it is not needed since most in the LE profession are "professionals" and understand the benefit of a good discusion over such topics.

Just my .02 </div></div>

You don't like Shibby's approach, so tell us what approach you'd prefer in these threads. In the last cop bashing threads on here, several of us have tried to explain why the officers did what they did and I didn't see anyone say something like, "oh, I understand now". Instead, the bashing just got worse and worse. Why should we be professional on a forum with a bunch of ignorant cop bashers, that no matter what we say, it isn't going go change anything? Plus, why should we be the only ones held to higher standards? I don't consider myself any better than anyone else. Aren't we all adults and equals? So why don't you tell the ignorant cop bashers to hold themselves to higher standards?
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

So Biggie is currently patrolling a desk pending an investigation into whether he violated department procedures. Apparently his superiors are not convinced that he did nothing wrong.

The woman he punched, the first woman he went after, and two others are facing charges (whether this goes anywhere remains to be seen).

Biggie was off duty and on the IHOP payroll at the time. He decided that the first woman was being too loud, so he walked over and started yelling at her to be quiet or leave.

She told him that she was a Criminal Justice student, and he had no right to tell her to be quiet. Then he said it was private property. She then threatened to call a "real" cop (that's what happens when you don't look or act like a professional).

That's the point at which he snapped, and started grabbing at her. The second woman grabbed him and was asking him to leave her alone when she got slapped. Nothing like slapping a drunk woman to escalate things. We've all seen the rest.

Investigation results and brutality lawsuit pending.

My money is on the punching bag.


 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You don't like Shibby's approach, so tell us what approach you'd prefer in these threads. In the last cop bashing threads on here, several of us have tried to explain why the officers did what they did and I didn't see anyone say something like, "oh, I understand now". Instead, the bashing just got worse and worse. Why should we be professional on a forum with a bunch of ignorant cop bashers, that no matter what we say, it isn't going go change anything? Plus, why should we be the only ones held to higher standards? I don't consider myself any better than anyone else. Aren't we all adults and equals? So why don't you tell the ignorant cop bashers to hold themselves to higher standards? </div></div>

First of all that is not true. I get pissed when I see someone pissing on a noble profession!!!! As professionals you are held to a standard above that of the common man which is why you are a member of a "profession". You have standards and requirements outside of what Joe civilian has. You are entrusted with one of our most important institutions which is enforcing the rule of law and in that protecting our civilian populace!

Because you are different!! You are a "<span style="font-weight: bold">professional</span>" or supposed to be and are supposed to be held to that higher standard! You are supposed to be the <span style="font-weight: bold">example</span> for the populace to follow! It is the nature of your profession which requires you to act accordingly! It is understood that people make mistakes and I understand that we are all people but you are held to a <span style="font-weight: bold">higher</span> standard!

I have no idea why you do not understand that? Or why nobody has mentored you or explained this to you? Eyes are on you guys believe it or not, for good, bad or worse! All that can be honestly asked is to do your best.

Do you see where I am comming from?
If not I'll add a little bit more to it. My friends dad is a retired police officer and one of the best men I know! It is a diservice to him when someone does something stupid!!! The trash talking is just trash talking and doesn't mean very much unless you let it get to you and I'll be honest it would bother me more if I was law enforcement. I will inject myself when I see someone defending what looks like a violation of what we expect someone of your profession to do since I have much higher expectations of a professional! Unless you convince me that what you do is not a profession and Law Enforcement Officers are not professionals I will continue to hold you to said standards.

Very Respectfully,
Stefan
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefan73</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You don't like Shibby's approach, so tell us what approach you'd prefer in these threads. In the last cop bashing threads on here, several of us have tried to explain why the officers did what they did and I didn't see anyone say something like, "oh, I understand now". Instead, the bashing just got worse and worse. Why should we be professional on a forum with a bunch of ignorant cop bashers, that no matter what we say, it isn't going go change anything? Plus, why should we be the only ones held to higher standards? I don't consider myself any better than anyone else. Aren't we all adults and equals? So why don't you tell the ignorant cop bashers to hold themselves to higher standards? </div></div>

First of all that is not true. I get pissed when I see someone pissing on a noble profession!!!! As professionals you are held to a standard above that of the common man which is why you are a member of a "profession". You have standards and requirements outside of what Joe civilian has. You are entrusted with one of our most important institutions which is enforcing the rule of law and in that protecting our civilian populace!

Because you are different!! You are a "<span style="font-weight: bold">professional</span>" or supposed to be and are supposed to be held to that higher standard! You are supposed to be the <span style="font-weight: bold">example</span> for the populace to follow! It is the nature of your profession which requires you to act accordingly! It is understood that people make mistakes and I understand that we are all people but you are held to a <span style="font-weight: bold">higher</span> standard!

I have no idea why you do not understand that? Or why nobody has mentored you or explained this to you? Eyes are on you guys believe it or not, for good, bad or worse! All that can be honestly asked is to do your best.

Do you see where I am comming from?
If not I'll add a little bit more to it. My friends dad is a retired police officer and one of the best men I know! It is a diservice to him when someone does something stupid!!! The trash talking is just trash talking and doesn't mean very much unless you let it get to you and I'll be honest it would bother me more if I was law enforcement. I will inject myself when I see someone defending what looks like a violation of what we expect someone of your profession to do since I have much higher expectations of a professional! Unless you convince me that what you do is not a profession and Law Enforcement Officers are not professionals I will continue to hold you to said standards.

Very Respectfully,
Stefan </div></div>

I think just about every officer that posted on this thread has pointed out that legally, the officer did nothing wrong. Could it have been handled differently? I'd like to think that I would because in the 11 years, I've never swung at anyone. I'm just sick and tired of cops getting trashed when legally they did nothing wrong. If you don't agree with it, that is fine, just like I may not agree with the way the officer handled it. Let the department handle it. I seriously doubt that his department will cover anything up when something like this is on video. Just because the incident may have looked bad or just because you or I may have handled it differently doesn't mean that the officer was legally wrong. Also doesn't mean he should be called all of the names he was called in this thread. What if he was 5'10" tall and weighed 150lb? Would that make any difference? I bet that some of the guys would have posted that he is too skinny and should put on some weight.

And yes, I do hold myself to higher standards. I just wish others, including the cop haters on this forum would do the same, instead of acting like they are on BARFCOM. And in the 11 years I've had one bullshit complaint against me that was squashed the second they saw the video.
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefan73</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You don't like Shibby's approach, so tell us what approach you'd prefer in these threads. In the last cop bashing threads on here, several of us have tried to explain why the officers did what they did and I didn't see anyone say something like, "oh, I understand now". Instead, the bashing just got worse and worse. Why should we be professional on a forum with a bunch of ignorant cop bashers, that no matter what we say, it isn't going go change anything? Plus, why should we be the only ones held to higher standards? I don't consider myself any better than anyone else. Aren't we all adults and equals? So why don't you tell the ignorant cop bashers to hold themselves to higher standards? </div></div>

First of all that is not true. I get pissed when I see someone pissing on a noble profession!!!! As professionals you are held to a standard above that of the common man which is why you are a member of a "profession". You have standards and requirements outside of what Joe civilian has. You are entrusted with one of our most important institutions which is enforcing the rule of law and in that protecting our civilian populace!

Because you are different!! You are a "<span style="font-weight: bold">professional</span>" or supposed to be and are supposed to be held to that higher standard! You are supposed to be the <span style="font-weight: bold">example</span> for the populace to follow! It is the nature of your profession which requires you to act accordingly! It is understood that people make mistakes and I understand that we are all people but you are held to a <span style="font-weight: bold">higher</span> standard!

I have no idea why you do not understand that? Or why nobody has mentored you or explained this to you? Eyes are on you guys believe it or not, for good, bad or worse! All that can be honestly asked is to do your best.

Do you see where I am comming from?
If not I'll add a little bit more to it. My friends dad is a retired police officer and one of the best men I know! It is a diservice to him when someone does something stupid!!! The trash talking is just trash talking and doesn't mean very much unless you let it get to you and I'll be honest it would bother me more if I was law enforcement. I will inject myself when I see someone defending what looks like a violation of what we expect someone of your profession to do since I have much higher expectations of a professional! Unless you convince me that what you do is not a profession and Law Enforcement Officers are not professionals I will continue to hold you to said standards.

Very Respectfully,
Stefan </div></div>

I think just about every officer that posted on this thread has pointed out that legally, the officer did nothing wrong. Could it have been handled differently? I'd like to think that I would because in the 11 years, I've never swung at anyone. I'm just sick and tired of cops getting trashed when legally they did nothing wrong. If you don't agree with it, that is fine, just like I may not agree with the way the officer handled it. Let the department handle it. I seriously doubt that his department will cover anything up when something like this is on video. Just because the incident may have looked bad or just because you or I may have handled it differently doesn't mean that the officer was legally wrong. Also doesn't mean he should be called all of the names he was called in this thread. What if he was 5'10" tall and weighed 150lb? Would that make any difference? I bet that some of the guys would have posted that he is too skinny and should put on some weight.

And yes, I do hold myself to higher standards. I just wish others, including the cop haters on this forum would do the same, instead of acting like they are on BARFCOM. And in the 11 years I've had one bullshit complaint against me that was squashed the second they saw the video. </div></div>

I understand your frustration!

There is obviously more to this story than we see.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefan73</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I understand your frustration!

There is obviously more to this story than we see. </div></div>



There usually is.


 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

the video clearly shows she put her hand on his shoulder to stable herself in order to speak to the officer and his immediate response was a slap chop to her face.
if a woman trying to talk to you requires slapping you may need to rethink yer career choice.
after the slap she goes ballistic but is clearly too far from the officer to even reach him. he comes across the table to strike at her.
pathetic, and all you people who support his action are complete pussies. that pos should be fired and do time like any of us would if we did that. not to mention the partner should be fired for not protecting or serving the public interest.
"you dont know what its like being a cop and dealing with...(insert whine of choice.) ok, dont be a cop if you dont like dealing with jacked up people in a professional, commanding, de-escalating way. this brand of pork is problem not solution.
 
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I can personally say that cops do break the law in the enforcement of their jobs. I got arrested once in 1977 and was driven around in a cop car handcuffed for three hours. Then the cops parked the car in a dark parking lot left all the doors open and stood over by the other cop car shooting the breeze just waiting for me to try to walk away so they could kill my ass. I didn't move because I knew a person that was killed like that one time and I was finally taken to the lockup. The cop that brought the charges against me was fired from the dept. for lieing and most of his suspects got the charges dropped. He spent over 2 grand of dept. money on drugs and couldn't explain where it went, I personally watched him suck most of it up his nose. I told him not to come to my apt. anymore because of his drug use and selling, two weeks later I was in jail for selling him pot, which I never did. Excuse the hell out of me but I don't trust cops, they're as dirty as any crook out there. Yep, I've had a few beers now but that is the truth; I hate to think that all cops are bad but some of them are nothing but scum sucking criminals with a badge and anyone that doesn't like this post can feel free to bite my butt and if I get banned for this post then so be it!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old Salt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can personally say that cops do break the law in the enforcement of their jobs. I got arrested once in 1977 and was driven around in a cop car handcuffed for three hours. Then the cops parked the car in a dark parking lot left all the doors open and stood over by the other cop car shooting the breeze just waiting for me to try to walk away so they could kill my ass. I didn't move because I knew a person that was killed like that one time and I was finally taken to the lockup. The cop that brought the charges against me was fired from the dept. for lieing and most of his suspects got the charges dropped. He spent over 2 grand of dept. money on drugs and couldn't explain where it went, I personally watched him suck most of it up his nose. I told him not to come to my apt. anymore because of his drug use and selling, two weeks later I was in jail for selling him pot, which I never did. Excuse the hell out of me but I don't trust cops, they're as dirty as any crook out there. Yep, I've had a few beers now but that is the truth; I hate to think that all cops are bad but some of them are nothing but scum sucking criminals with a badge and anyone that doesn't like this post can feel free to bite my butt and if I get banned for this post then so be it! </div></div>

Is this because you called 911 and I didn't believe that you were abducted by aliens and then anal probed?

Oh yeah...I saw that movie too....it's called Training Day with Denzel Washington.

Cool story......
 
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This is the absolute truth and if you don't believe it then you probably believe in aliens and other stupid crap and also it sounds like you're a cop, I;ve got family that are cops and don't trust them either. He has state troopers over on Thur. night poker and they get drunk as hell and drive home; these are the guy's that put your sorry ass in jail for having a few beers. But guess what they get a free pass if they get caught. I've been there and done that for more than 30 years and I don't owe crooked cops crap.
 
Re: Cop punches girl in the face, recent video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old Salt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is the absolute truth and if you don't believe it then you probably believe in aliens and other stupid crap </div></div>

Cool. Let me try.

Once, i got pulled over by dis cop....n i wasnt doin anythin wrong and he said hey gimme ur license and i said i don have it and he tol me to get out. then he beat my head against the door and i done fell out and then he had but secks with me while i laid on da ground and i cried for help but nobody came. then he towed my car and toll me that he would murder me if i say anything then he beat me again. then i tried to walk away but he got angry and put me in jail. that, your honor, is why im here.......

Close?
 
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I am glad you have piped up and said "yes " you hold yourself to higher standards -thats the point of most of these anti posts which I dont believe to be cop "haters" as you put it but people that expect a higer standard from those with a badge , not a punchy baffoon like the guy on the vid even if he didnt break the law!
 
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Maybe I misunderstood your last post but you really need to work on your english. I'm just tired and tired of folks trying to defend this piece of crap cop that could have subdued the situation without beating the girl in the face. I'm 61 years old and pretty sure I could have calmed her down without punching her lights out. Bottom line is that punks are punks whether they wear a uniform or not. As far as watching some lame movie; no I've never been anal probed maybe you have and I don't care
 
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Amen brother; cops are supposed to protect and serve not beat the hell out of a drunk chick that may weigh 110 at most. Like I just said I'm pretty sure I could have put her under control without punching her lights out and I'm 61 years old. Maybe that cop needs to get on a weight control program like the military and get his sorry ass in shape.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old Salt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Amen brother; cops are supposed to protect and serve not beat the hell out of a drunk chick that may weigh 110 at most. Like I just said I'm pretty sure I could have put her under control without punching her lights out and I'm 61 years old. Maybe that cop needs to get on a weight control program like the military and get his sorry ass in shape.</div></div>

She was not 110 - more like 125-130 lb min.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am glad you have piped up and said "yes " you hold yourself to higher standards -thats the point of most of these anti posts which I dont believe to be cop "haters" as you put it but people that expect a higer standard from those with a badge , not a punchy baffoon like the guy on the vid even if he didnt break the law! </div></div>

I don't know whom you're addressing but I'm going to go ahead and believe that your comment is aimed at me. You failed to name the person that your comment was directed at, but the reply comes right after mine; so is it safe to say it's me? That's the kind of passive-aggressive commenting that cops have come accustom to. These comments are expressed under the breath, into a crowd, without direction or ownership.

Also, let's be clear. You and the public hold cops to a higher standard. I hold cops to a humanistic standard, ie., If I punch you in the face, I expect to get punched back; If I punch a cop in the face, I expect to get punched back. The only standard that cops should exceed is the truth telling standard. No matter what happens, a cop should always tell the truth.

The cop in the video, I'm sure, had to fill out a "use of force" log. That is where he needs to tell the truth. He also needs to tell the truth in court which I'm sure he will.

I'm over the posts by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

-You've never been a cop.
-You have never been trained as a cop.
-You have never been to a police academy.
-You have never dealt with an angry mob facing you.
-You have never tried to reason with a drunk person.
-You don't have the experience to know that the 10th time a cop says "Please", he will be walked all over.
-You don't have the experience of a cop.
-You don't know the force continuum.
-You don't know the Department General Orders.
-You have never been punched in the face while doing your job.
-You don't have to worry about getting punched in the face while doing your job.
-You don't know the difference between a punch in the face, pepper spray and a taser.
-You don't know what the arrest was for.
-You don't know what the suspect's arrest history was.
-You don't know if the suspect was under the influence.
-You don't know if the suspect was armed.
-You don't know the mentality of the crowd.
-You don't know the history of the incident.
-You don't know if any sympathizers were armed.
-You don't know if any sympathizers were ready to fight or riot on behalf of the suspect.
-You don't know how far away back up was.
-You don't know what type of neighborhood this was in.
-You don't know the history of prior events at that location.

These are only SOME of the considerations that the Police Officer had to think about.

You are crass to sit back in your nice warm chair and attempt to pick apart and dissect things of which you have absolutely NO comprehension. You pretend to know the cops state of mind by saying he was angry....... Really? You can read his mind? His actions show his emotion? Think about it?

You also say what he should and should not have done. Who are you again? Some guy with no training OR experience? Tell me, where do you get all of your knowledge? Cops? The newspaper? Your rough life growing up in a low crime area?

To put all of this in perspective, it's like somebody coming here and saying that all service men are murderers because of Iraq and Afghanistan. What would you say about that? Hopefully, you would say that person was an apathetic, ignorant, sheltered, self righteous, piece of shit. Now....what do you think the knowledgeable people in this forum are thinking of you?

If you want me to take you serious, get some police training. Get punched in the face. Know what it feels like to get on your radio thinking that your gun is about to be taken away, and you are about to be shot. Know how to deal with the difficult and uneducated. Until then....you're just a squeaky wheel to which no attention should be payed.

You are somebody who was pampered as a child and spoiled rotten. You have never known harm or adversity. Your worst moment was when you got a D on your college paper. You never had a girlfriend that was hot enough to get in a fight over. That's the world that you live in. See what I did there? I assumed what your life was like and I assumed to know where you should be coming from. If you don't like it; A) It's probably true, and B) It's what you are doing to the cops.
 
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The cop I was refering to is Keith Coco, claimed to be at 9-11 and rescued people, a bald face lie. He got fired from his job in Florida as a county inspector or something like that. Do a wed search on the POS and you'll learn all you need to know about the shit bag. You're right I've never been a cop but I've served in the military and had my sorry ass shot at more than most cops. I wasn't referring to you but don't get me wrong, I've been there done that been shot at and did my duty so don't talk to me like you're a saint. You're probably a cop and that does not impress me; character impresses em and like I said I haven't been a cop but you can kiss my butt if you don't think I've put my life on the line as much or more than any cop. And the post didn't impress me at all. I don't have anything to prove to anyone anymore, like I said I've been there for real and put up; what the hell have you done?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am glad you have piped up and said "yes " you hold yourself to higher standards -thats the point of most of these anti posts which I dont believe to be cop "haters" as you put it but people that expect a higer standard from those with a badge , not a punchy baffoon like the guy on the vid even if he didnt break the law! </div></div>

I don't know whom you're addressing but I'm going to go ahead and believe that your comment is aimed at me. You failed to name the person that your comment was directed at, but the reply comes right after mine; so is it safe to say it's me? That's the kind of passive-aggressive commenting that cops have come accustom to. These comments are expressed under the breath, into a crowd, without direction or ownership.

Also, let's be clear. You and the public hold cops to a higher standard. I hold cops to a humanistic standard, ie., If I punch you in the face, I expect to get punched back; If I punch a cop in the face, I expect to get punched back. The only standard that cops should exceed is the truth telling standard. No matter what happens, a cop should always tell the truth.

The cop in the video, I'm sure, had to fill out a "use of force" log. That is where he needs to tell the truth. He also needs to tell the truth in court which I'm sure he will.

I'm over the posts by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

-You've never been a cop.
-You have never been trained as a cop.
-You have never been to a police academy.
-You have never dealt with an angry mob facing you.
-You have never tried to reason with a drunk person.
-You don't have the experience to know that the 10th time a cop says "Please", he will be walked all over.
-You don't have the experience of a cop.
-You don't know the force continuum.
-You don't know the Department General Orders.
-You have never been punched in the face while doing your job.
-You don't have to worry about getting punched in the face while doing your job.
-You don't know the difference between a punch in the face, pepper spray and a taser.
-You don't know what the arrest was for.
-You don't know what the suspect's arrest history was.
-You don't know if the suspect was under the influence.
-You don't know if the suspect was armed.
-You don't know the mentality of the crowd.
-You don't know the history of the incident.
-You don't know if any sympathizers were armed.
-You don't know if any sympathizers were ready to fight or riot on behalf of the suspect.
-You don't know how far away back up was.
-You don't know what type of neighborhood this was in.
-You don't know the history of prior events at that location.

These are only SOME of the considerations that the Police Officer had to think about.

You are crass to sit back in your nice warm chair and attempt to pick apart and dissect things of which you have absolutely NO comprehension. You pretend to know the cops state of mind by saying he was angry....... Really? You can read his mind? His actions show his emotion? Think about it?

You also say what he should and should not have done. Who are you again? Some guy with no training OR experience? Tell me, where do you get all of your knowledge? Cops? The newspaper? Your rough life growing up in a low crime area?

To put all of this in perspective, it's like somebody coming here and saying that all service men are murderers because of Iraq and Afghanistan. What would you say about that? Hopefully, you would say that person was an apathetic, ignorant, sheltered, self righteous, piece of shit. Now....what do you think the knowledgeable people in this forum are thinking of you?

If you want me to take you serious, get some police training. Get punched in the face. Know what it feels like to get on your radio thinking that your gun is about to be taken away, and you are about to be shot. Know how to deal with the difficult and uneducated. Until then....you're just a squeaky wheel to which no attention should be payed.

You are somebody who was pampered as a child and spoiled rotten. You have never known harm or adversity. Your worst moment was when you got a D on your college paper. You never had a girlfriend that was hot enough to get in a fight over. That's the world that you live in. See what I did there? I assumed what your life was like and I assumed to know where you should be coming from. If you don't like it; A) It's probably true, and B) It's what you are doing to the cops. </div></div>

Had you bothered to look at my post you would see it was re:paulosantos - instead you lost control and had a rant -a silly one at that .A smarter man would have accessed the situation better and acted properly before punching me in the face with those comments - just like the other officer .
OH , and by the way you don't have to be a police offer to understand the street - Ive had a gun in my face , nearly a heavy bottom glass in my face in Spain while surrounded by 5 drunk guys ,an attempted mugging in Argentina , attempted robbing in the Andes of Peru , a bomb in Bogota,attacked in London by a large black man blah blah bloody blah -maybe you live in a small ball but mine ball has been huge
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old Salt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The cop I was refering to is Keith Coco, claimed to be at 9-11 and rescued people, a bald face lie. He got fired from his job in Florida as a county inspector or something like that. Do a wed search on the POS and you'll learn all you need to know about the shit bag. You're right I've never been a cop but I've served in the military and had my sorry ass shot at more than most cops. I wasn't referring to you but don't get me wrong, I've been there done that been shot at and did my duty so don't talk to me like you're a saint. </div></div>

I wasn't talking to you. Typically, people will quote the person that they are responding to within their post. Personally, I'm not interested in your story as I believe it to be fictitious. Also, being shot at and working as a Police Officer are two different things.

I'm not really interested in a dialog with you for a number of reasons. If you are in fact a 61 year old vet, the last thing I want to do is strip your dignity in public.
 
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Excuse me but I don'reall care what you think of me. I've done my duty and proudly and if you don't like then feel free to bite my ass. You cannot strip me of my dignity in public, I've got military and DOD records to prove anything that I say; what the hell do you have?"
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Had you bothered to look at my post you would see it was re:paulosantos - instead you lost control and had a rant -a silly one at that .A smarter man would have accessed the situation better and acted properly before punching me in the face with those comments - just like the other officer .
OH , and by the way you don't have to be a police offer to understand the street - Ive had a gun in my face , nearly a heavy bottom glass in my face in Spain while surrounded by 5 drunk guys ,an attempted mugging in Argentina , attempted robbing in the Andes of Peru , a bomb in Bogota,attacked in London by a large black man blah blah bloody blah -maybe you live in a small ball but mine ball has been huge </div></div>

I just have to wonder what makes you have such delusion of grander to decide that I lost control and went on a rant. You also seem to think you know what the Officer was feeling in the video. What makes you such an expert in reading human emotion through text or a 3 minute video? I find it intriguing when somebody asserts to know the emotion of others. Do you think you are that important? ...or do you profess to have such a strong hold on reality that your perception of another person's perception and emotion can be written as fact?

To further dissect your comments you stated that "a smarter man" would have assessed (<- I fixed the spelling for you), the situation better. Are you implying that I'm not smart or my assessment skill lack or both? What makes you think this? Do you have fact, foundation or evidence to back up your claim? Either way you've obviously made yet another judgment.

I'm also curious about your comment as to how my post was "silly." What does that mean? Silly, like HAHA, silly? What part exactly, was silly? I'm not surprised that you utter such a general blanket statement.

Speaking of judgments, in that same sentence, you continue to say that I should have "acted properly." You are quite the judge. In which way did I act? You imply some type of negative action on my part. Are you just using colorful adjectives in attempt to make your baseless foundation appear credible? Did you imply my acting to make me appear as the bad guy?

Then I am accused of punching you in the face with my post. Just to be clear, my post was made to articulate how you have absolutely no foundation to sling your comments and judgments. What you consider a rant, I consider articulation. Articulation is necessary when there is a profound gap in understanding to a certain topic. I usually write a post to include many aspects of a topic so there will be less question in reply or rebuttal.

You then go on to speak of your worldly run-ins with death and appear to be victorious. I'm sure a lot of people here on the hide, including myself, have had similar brushes. Tell me about the time that you handcuffed one of the would-be robbers and waited for the Police. Tell me about how you talked the 5 drunks that were going to fight you into handcuffs, tell me how you disarmed the guy who held a gun to your face so he wouldn't victimize anybody with the same gun in the future.

Please, don't deflect the direction of this thread. This thread is about law enforcement and the dissection of how "proper" cops act. At no time in any of your worldly travels have you functioned in the capacity of a law enforcement officer. Having a close call with crime and stopping crime are two WAYYYYY different things.

I believe that you do hold yourself on a pedestal because of all your judgments against myself, the cop in the video and others. I don't know what makes you qualified to be so judgmental but you should tone it down and not be so quick to offer "the proper thing to do", especially when you don't know what the proper thing is.

If you feel that I lack foundation for any of my comments, please advise and I will gladly highlight the same trends in your previous posts. I got injured at work taking the garbage out and I have all day.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old Salt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excuse me but I don'reall care what you think of me. I've done my duty and proudly and if you don't like then feel free to bite my ass. You cannot strip me of my dignity in public, I've got military and DOD records to prove anything that I say; what the hell do you have?" </div></div>

I have the same. Thanks Although, I do lack the fictitious story about being abducted by police and then baited into escape which would result in my murder. That one belongs to you.
 
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Being shot at is the same no matter what the situation or the weapons. Personally I don't care what you think of me, I served this country for over thirty years and your opinion means absolutely nothing to me. It sounds like you're the kind of guy that likes to beat up drunk women. I am 61 years old and don't really give a shit what anyone like you thinks of me anymore. I know there are good cops and bad cops the more crap I hear from you I think you're probably one ot the crap type. Please don't bother me anymore with your bullshit. One more thing I am a veteran and I guarantee you that I've been shot at more by professinal soldiers than you have ever faced by some shit bag dope dealer. Once again this conversation is over. Don't bother me anymore, you don't impress me at all
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old Salt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Being shot at is the same no matter what the situation or the weapons. Personally I don't care what you think of me, I served this country for over thirty years and your opinion means absolutely nothing to me. It sounds like you're the kind of guy that likes to beat up drunk women. I am 61 years old and don't really give a shit what anyone like you thinks of me anymore. I know there are good cops and bad cops the more crap I hear from you I think you're probably one ot the crap type. Please don't bother me anymore with your bullshit. One more thing I am a veteran and I guarantee you that I've been shot at more by professinal soldiers than you have ever faced by some shit bag dope dealer. Once again this conversation is over. Don't bother me anymore, you don't impress me at all </div></div>

I know that I won't get far debating with you as you lack a certain comprehension skill. I don't think you're a bad guy but it appears that I hit a hot button when I called the validity of your story into question. The only reason I do that is because YOU made YOUR story public and it made cops look bad. Don't be mad at me because of YOUR story.

If you think I'm a bad person, then that's on you. I've done nothing to provide you with any evidence that I have poor ethic. ....and wow!!! I like to beat up drunk women? Are you grasping? Makes me wonder what you do with drunk women...

Okay, Okay....if being shot at equates to penis size then yes, yours is most definitely bigger than mine. ....except I missed the part where I was trying to pawn myself off as a war hero.

Between you and Che there is an awful lot of hostility thrown my way. I merely pointed out that people who have no idea what cops do, sure do have a lot to say about what they do.
 
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A carousel (from French carrousel, from Italian carosello), or merry-go-round, is an amusement ride consisting of a rotating circular platform with seats for riders. The "seats" are traditionally in the form of rows of wooden horses or other animals mounted on posts, many of which are moved up and down via gearwork to simulate galloping, to the accompaniment of looped circus music.

This thread really should get the big lock onit !
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

This thread really should get the big lock onit ! </div></div>

The first reasonable comment you have made.
 
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Her lawyer says she didn't realize he was a cop.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jericho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Her lawyer says she didn't realize he was a cop. </div></div>
i can see why she may not have recognized his position of authority...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marduk185</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jericho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Her lawyer says she didn't realize he was a cop. </div></div>
i can see why she may not have recognized his position of authority... </div></div>

The story unfolds?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old Salt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Once again this conversation is over. Don't bother me anymore, you don't impress me at all </div></div>

I know that I won't get far debating with you as you lack a certain comprehension skill. </div></div>

I am "impressed" with Bowman's argument. When you have an intellectual debate, you have to respect the competition when they lay out a good argument, I just don't see the other side doing it without every fallacy in the book. This is the problem with the internet, people's feelings get hurt and a good argument turns into a personal attacks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jericho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Her lawyer says she didn't realize he was a cop. </div></div>

Where are you reading this? Links to news please?

Found this report.

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/27682840/index.html

It's even worse on the news because the audience sees even less of the video. Looks like the LEO is off duty but working in uniform at IHOP. I can only imagine what the clientele is like if a restaurant has to hire a cop to keep the peace during business hours. Cops working off duty in uniform does not happen in California. That is a foreign concept to me.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-04-27/news/29497401_1_ihop-cop-slugs

Last few lines of this article summarizes all the fights happening at IHOP restaurants.

<span style="font-style: italic">Also on Sunday, Los Angeles Lakers forward Derrick Caracter was arrested after allegedly hitting a waitress at an IHOP in New Orleans. The team was in town for a playoff game.

In February, a group of reporters were attacked in an IHOP parking lot after approaching relatives of a 27-year-old man who had recently been shot to death.

In January, three people were charged with disorderly conduct after a huge brawl at an IHOP in South Carolina. That incident was also caught on video.</span>
 
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So a question for all you cops and people who support the cops in this video. Dont get me wrong she shouldnt have interferred, but he had no right for the beat down. Why do you think that any leo should get special priviliges they are nothing but civilians that are supposed to be professional and go above and beyond to serve and protect outside of the regular guy/girl. If that isnt true than the next time any guy gets slapped or pushed by a girl than it gives that guy the right to beat the dog shit out of her and no leo should interfere right? Yeah right. That cop should be fired and charged with excessive force....End of discussion. bunch of morons.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: titus7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So a question for all you cops and people who support the cops in this video. Dont get me wrong she shouldnt have interferred, but he had no right for the beat down. Why do you think that any leo should get special priviliges they are nothing but civilians that are supposed to be professional and go above and beyond to serve and protect outside of the regular guy/girl. If that isnt true than the next time any guy gets slapped or pushed by a girl than it gives that guy the right to beat the dog shit out of her and no leo should interfere right? Yeah right. That cop should be fired and charged with excessive force....End of discussion. bunch of morons. </div></div>

You could effect the arrest the same way as a citizen and a Cop would be required by law to accept the arrestee. You would have to show up in court and defend your actions just like the Cop in the video will have to. Not sure why you have to make it look as if the Cops are more special than you. Your special too.
 
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"
"Where are you reading this? Links to news please?"


When I watched clip on my iPhone, there was a write up at the end of clip with the story.
 
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She does have the right to the beat down. Civilians do not have "authority"; cops do. Police have authorization to use whatever force is necessary to stop an assailant or those resisting their requests. If either of those women thought they were wrongfully being accused they should have complied with the officers requests, and at a later time sort out if they have a legitimate gripe of wrong doing. If the citizen truly did nothing wrong then that will be sorted out later. You never have the right to resist just because you feel you are being wronged. Citizens should always comply with an officer period. If you lay a hand on a police officer it should be game on. They are the given power to protect. Not you. If she wanted to help her friend she should have advised and urged the girl to quite resisting and comply with the officers request. I am almost certain she would not have been hit. Law enforcement needs to assert their powers more because more and more citizens think they can do whatever they want. Don't like it move to a different country where you probably would have been shot for assaulting the officer, or stuck in jail with no fair trial. By the way I am not an officer, but I do work along side them. Most are great people put in tough situations day in and day out.
 
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BTW Titus, they do get special privileges, they are authorized to use force when necessary. How else are they supposed to go above and beyond to protect and serve? Citizens don't have the right to use force.
 
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She wasn't even her friend. The bla k female and her 3 friends were being loud and yelling at other patrons. The officer initially went up to them and asked them to keep it down. She continued so he went up to her again and told her she had to leave. She said no and told him he was going go call the "Real Police.". He told her he was the real police and told he she was under arrest and that is when he grabbed her. The white girl then came over from a couple of tables away and interfered. That is what one of the articles said. I didn't quote it.

The defense of "I didn't know he was a cop" is something people try all the time. Which in this case makes no sense because he told the black lady he was a cop and the white lady walked up to the table so how could she not see he was a cop?
 
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