Non-resident Florida CCW lincenses for out of state residents? WTF?

[Six Feet Under]

All,
I have some friends that are going to a CCW class in Springfield, Ohio. To make this clear, my friends are all Ohio residents- Ohio drivers licenses, etc... The place that gives the classes in Springfield, Ohio offers NON-resident Florida CCW lincenses. The classes, including range time, is only 2 hours.. WTF?? I have an Ohio CCW lincense. If you go through normal Ohio CCW classes, you have to put in 12 hours of classroom and rangetime combined.. Anyway, this deal sounds shady as hell... I guess this CCW class finger prints you, takes your photo graph and sends all your shit down to Florida.. Then Florida will send you a "Florida" CCW lincense that covers you to carry in Ohio along with 32 states total.. I guess the state of Florida does not share CCW info with your state... Being if you were to get pulled over driving, that it would not come over the officers radio that you were a CCW holder.. Which I could see being a Very big problem in some cases- maybe good in others.. Has anyone heard of this? Im sure there is some legal loop hole etc... I'm guessing it is legal or they would not be putting on the classes?? Here's the link

FLORIDA Class - CCW4U2 Concealed Carry Classes / Florida Non-Resident Certification

 

[Graham]

Non-resident Florida CCW lincenses for out of state residents? WTF?

What's your question?
Is it whether anyone has heard of this?
Is it whether something is legal? If so, is what legal?

 

[Six Feet Under]

Yea has anyone heard of this? Is it legal? etc... I'm guessing it is? Just sounds shady

 

[Six Feet Under]

I thought you had to have a CCW in the state that you reside in?

 

[Wes_Mantooth]

Illinois resident here, I have a Florida CCW. Took a class (3-4 hours as I recall), finger prints and photo taken right there and everything was notorized at the class too. Some states have non-resident CCW licenses and some don't.

What's the big deal? I mean, without getting political, carrying a gun is a right isn't it?

 

[Deadshot2]

Two very commonly obtained "Non-Resident" licenses are from Florida and Utah. Many found that if they carried a license from their own state, the FL and/or UT license gave them "reciprocity" for all but just a small number of States.

I live in a State that only honors carry licenses that are issued by the persons actual state of residence as long as the State's issuing criteria meets my State's.

What's happening in Ohio is perfectly legal and above board. Only downside is that the Non-Resident licenses aren't as useful as they once were.

 

[Graham]

Non-resident Florida CCW lincenses for out of state residents? WTF?

Graham's rule No. 1 applies.

If you mean: Are you permitted to carry in the state of Ohio on a Florida permit when you are a resident of Ohio and do not have an Ohio permit? Check your state statute.

 

[Six Feet Under]

Yes, just what I was asking... I don't know how to be any more clear.. If it's legal to carry in Ohio with a Florida license- with us being Ohio residents? I have never heard of it or anyone I have talked to.. I even talked to a police officer last night here in town and he had never heard of it.. Yes, it's your right to carry.. Just a lot of pollitical BS in everything.. The govt is always up everyones ass with laws... If it's legal, then it's legal... Just sounds kinda shady-

Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool if it's all legit... My wife, friends and family will probably go get a "Florida" license..

 

[Graham]

If it's legal, then it's legal...

Not exactly. If the statute is not clear you may have to look at case law.



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[RHunter]

For Florida residents it is a 2 hour safety class and that's it. Or, if you are a vet like myself, there is no class.

Florida has the highest number of CCW permits in the country, over 1.2 million of them.

Most significant demographic: Females over 62 years of age. You don't mess with Grandmas in this state....

 

[RHunter]

If I am not mistaken the reason for our non resident licenses was for people that have second homes here that do not claim Florida as their home state. If you get a Florida license, get busted for carrying in your state with it and do not own a home in Florida, you could be kinda fucked.

 

[Graham]

Graham's rule No. 1 applies again.


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[Six Feet Under]

If I am not mistaken the reason for our non resident licenses was for people that have second homes here that do not claim Florida as their home state. If you get a Florida license, get busted for carrying in your state with it and do not own a home in Florida, you could be kinda fucked.

That's what I thought... None of my friends have homes, P.O. boxes or anything to do with Florida.. They just want the 2 hour class and be able to legally carry in Ohio.. I would try and read all the state laws etc, but I'm too tired to read through all that crap.. I figured you guys would know all the BS on it

 

[Graham]

I figured you guys would know all the BS on it

And that's exactly what you are getting, because they are making things up.




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[RHunter]

Like Graham said, you do need to check the laws because non resident is a different class of permit that may or may not have the same privileges in other states as a resident carry permit.

 

[McLarenross]

Reciprocity.... Do you have the same issue with Ohio recognizing a Tennessee drivers license?

I am from Texas. While I was stationed in California with the Corps I got my CCW from Arizona for the cost of $60, fingerprints, and a copy of my military ID. No class at all. That CCW is good in 30 some odd states including Texas and North Carolina where I now live. I have never lived in Arizona nor spent longer in the state than it took me to traverse it on I-10.

 

[Graham]

Non-resident Florida CCW lincenses for out of state residents? WTF?

Like Graham said, you do need to check the laws because non resident is a different class of permit that may or may not have the same privileges in other states as a resident carry permit.

That's not what I said. And that doesn't happen to be true.

You need to look at Ohio law with regard to reciprocity when the person carrying, on a permit issued by another state, is an Ohio resident.

 

[Six Feet Under]

I called the Ohio Attorney General's office and the local Sheriff's office... Nobody can give me a total straight answer.. But it seems to be legal. As of right now you can be an Ohio resident and only have a Florida non-resident CCW license..

 

[Kamkaze]

If I am not mistaken the reason for our non resident licenses was for people that have second homes here that do not claim Florida as their home state. If you get a Florida license, get busted for carrying in your state with it and do not own a home in Florida, you could be kinda fucked.

This is incorrect and could not be further from the truth. Any non resident of Florida that meets the requirements of a Florida CCW can obtain and use it in any state that offers reciprocity for non resident ccw permits. For example colorado only honors Florida permits if you are a resident of Florida, there are a few others that do this as well. Texas for example honors Florida permits for resident and non resident. Owning a house or wintering down there has zero to do with out of state ccw licenses in Florida. Here is the list of states that offer reciprocity to Florida ccw permit holders. Here is a list direct from Floridas division of licensing showing what states offer reciprocity to Florida permit holders, states with the number 4 next to them only honor them if you are a Florida resident. I've had my Florida concealed permit for 10 years and maintain it even though I have a Texas one as well because it covers a few states Texas doesn't.

States Recognizing Florida License / Related Information / Concealed Weapon License / Consumer Services / Licensing / Divisions & Offices / Home - Florida Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services

The reciprocity agreement with Ohio:

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/...da-Concealed-Carry-Reciprocity-Agreement.aspx

 

[RHunter]

I knew there was something odd with the reciprocity and this must have been it. That is a pretty good deal if your state accepts Florida CCW, it is easy to get a license here. FYI It takes about 5 months now from the time you submit the application till you have it in your hand. My wife just got hers and it was 3 days shy of 5 months to the day.

states with the number 4 next to them only honor them if you are a Florida resident

OP should be good to go then, I am sure Rick Scott will be happy to take the $112 fee.

 

[Six Feet Under]

I just talked to our Sheriff... He says that as of right now, Ohio residents can have a non resident Florida CCW license and Ohio will "honor" it.. But The persons having the Florida CCW have to obey Ohio CCW laws when in Ohio.. There is legislation right now trying to make Ohio citizens have an Ohio license..

 

[Killswitch Engage]

there's also legislation in the works to change the ohio ccw to lower the required hours of course and the renewal. support for it looks good.

 

[Six Feet Under]

I did read that too! That's cool if they lower the hours of training. A lot more people will go through the course then.

I thought it was kinda stupid that the attorney generals office couldn't give me a straight answer on this the laws about the licenses. I had to call the sheriffs dept and they had to check the laws and call me back. It would suck to pay all that money to just go through for Florida's license, then they change the laws on you. Anyway, we'll just keep our Ohio licenses.

 

[Six Feet Under]

I knew there was something odd with the reciprocity and this must have been it. That is a pretty good deal if your state accepts Florida CCW, it is easy to get a license here. FYI It takes about 5 months now from the time you submit the application till you have it in your hand. My wife just got hers and it was 3 days shy of 5 months to the day.



OP should be good to go then, I am sure Rick Scott will be happy to take the $112 fee.

For the guys I work with that took the class for their Florida license- I hope it takes 5 months so I can mess with them. Haha

 

[E9Diver]

Florida is one of the most popular due to its ease of issuance and wide acceptance. Good site to check state CCW acceptance broken down by state CCW permits (Resident vs Non Resident)
Concealed Carry Permit Reciprocity Maps - USA Carry

 

[E9Diver]

Florida is one of the most popular due to its ease of issuance and wide acceptance. Good site to check state CCW acceptance broken down by state CCW permits (Resident vs Non Resident)

usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

 

[Deadshot2]

Or, if you are a vet like myself, there is no class.

One of the few benefits to having a DD214 handy. A free meal now and then at Applebee's, Denney's, or Golden Corral, a "Zero Down Home Loan", and not having to sit through a Florida CCW class . I'm sure there are more but those are all I've used mine for in the last 40 years.

 

[softcock]

I have been CC in Oregon for over 20+ years but I do Utah . I don't do Florida as my (non-resident CCL ) - ' Reciprocity Back-up ' . I use Utah as my ( non-resident ) Back-up about 7 years ago .
( Resident CCL ) . Oregon only gives me Reciprocity in about 15 states .
Resident & Non-Resident CCL's are different also .
For ( Non-Resident CCL ) . Utah gives me a little more peace of mind in about 33 states . I think Florida actually gives me 3 less States on ' Non-Resident CCL' .
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[McGilbery]

I am a Trooper here in TX, but due to the reciprocity agreement they are legal. I have have called our office in charge of CHL's to check on the matter listed by the OP due to me stopping a TX resident with a FL CHL who did not have a residence or any ties to FL. People teaching the classes offer the FL CHL here in TX due to the reduced cost. Long story short there legal here and all states with reciprocity agreements. If your worried call the department of public safety for your state and confirm through their office.


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