Eventually, Someone Else is Going to Die

[h=1]Dartmouth professor calls Antifa violence ‘vital’ form of ‘collective self-defense’[/h] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/28/mark-bray-dartmouth-professor-calls-vital-antifa-v/

“It’s basically a politics or an activity of social revolutionary self defense. It’s a pan-left radical politics uniting communists, socialists, anarchists and various different radical leftists together for the shared purpose of combating the far right,” Mr. Bray said Saturday when asked to specifically define Antifa.

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“Even if a group does not intend for that to be the way to go about it, if you’re organizing against violent fascists, being able to defend yourselves can unfortunately come in handy,” he replied. “I agree most of the time, in most circumstances, non-violent means are effective and it’s really very fundamental to building a popular movement to influence public opinion.”

The professor asserted that critics take his words out of context before he was asked if he considers charging down peaceful neo-Nazis a form of self-defense.

“I try not to wade too far into ‘What about this and what about this,’” the professor told NBC. “I like to leave it as general as ‘I support collective self-defense against fascism and Nazism.’”

“So basically, you don’t want to take a clear position on that specific distinction (between self defense and preemptive attack),” countered reporter Benjy Sarlin.

“In the abstract. I’m going to leave it at that if you don’t mind,” said Mr. Bray.
 
[h=1]Dartmouth professor calls Antifa violence ‘vital’ form of ‘collective self-defense’[/h] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/28/mark-bray-dartmouth-professor-calls-vital-antifa-v/

Yeah. Their definition of alt-right seems to include those who are just left of center, too. Check out this minister pimping for Antifa.

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As far as Antifa goes, there's a metric ton of resentment within the Left against those perceived as less than completely committed.

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Anybody remember our Guinness-guzzler?

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Hmm ...
 
[h=1]Dartmouth professor calls Antifa violence ‘vital’ form of ‘collective self-defense’[/h] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/28/mark-bray-dartmouth-professor-calls-vital-antifa-v/

another spineless cuck calling for violence without wanting to look like hes calling for violence.......guy doesnt even have the balls to stand behind his convictions.....just wants to hide behind a veil of ambiguity.


so does that mean we have the right of "self defense" from violent anarcho-communists?.........i mean, it a 2 way street right?
 
Right or not; self defense will happen. These losers need to understand the reality of the can of worms that they are opening. The only downside is that if they get hurt; they won't go to jail...the "right wing fascist" will pay the price. I think most of us know that and that is the reason there haven't been a lot of counter protests where these guys are forced to see the light
 
Right or not; self defense will happen. These losers need to understand the reality of the can of worms that they are opening. The only downside is that if they get hurt; they won't go to jail...the "right wing fascist" will pay the price. I think most of us know that and that is the reason there haven't been a lot of counter protests where these guys are forced to see the light

This is a true statement. The violence by both Antifa and BLM is designed to make someone snap and fight back. Then the media will kick into gear and prosecute the "violent right". It's all been predicated and prepped.
 
another spineless cuck calling for violence without wanting to look like hes calling for violence.......guy doesnt even have the balls to stand behind his convictions.....just wants to hide behind a veil of ambiguity.


so does that mean we have the right of "self defense" from violent anarcho-communists?.........i mean, it a 2 way street right?

No, seriously, it is not their fault...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/what-trump-gets-wrong-about-antifa/537048/
 
^^^ It is what 'Media Matters" has been planning for ages. And you know where their funding comes from....

Cheers,

Sirhr

Make no mistake, this is a culture war and the shit stirrers occupy some of the more expensive NY and London real estate, comfortable and far above the combative throngs. Here is the face of Media Matters. His name is David Brock. This is how he presents himself after an herbal colonic. David went to Berkeley and was not strong enough to recover from the experience. What remains is a sort of quaffed golem. He is at war with anything right of leftist left and would have even centrist lefties burned at the stake. David takes in the smell of burning flesh like an exhilarating breath of sea air, I have heard. He hates the 2nd Amendment. He is also surrounded by armed guards 24x7 and everywhere he goes. Makes sense to me. [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/images.newrepublic.com\/03cc408d18efe51cdb42d70e20fd323f8f02eba2.jpeg?w=600&q=65&dpi=1.25&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces&h=400"}[/IMG2]



Here is an article that makes him seem more interesting than he is -> http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/12/in...organizations/

As for funding, below is a link for a peek under the covers. I feel so cliche in posting something with Soros' name that I feel like I need to be cleaned with a flame thrower. Anyway, his paw prints are all over this crap.

https://www.activistfacts.com/organi...s-for-america/
 
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Just in case you want to see the faces of the enemy.... these 13 were arrested in Berkeley recently and charged with various crimes. Whether they will get any punishment... or will be offered tenured teaching positions at Ivy League colleges... remains to be seen.

Pathetic, aren't they?

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Seth Vazquez, 25, Berkeley
Mark Misohink, 23, Oakland
James Dominic, 23, Oakland
Kristopher Wyrick, 39, Alpine (San Diego County)
Harlan Pankau, 38, Jamul (San Diego County)
Levi Smith, 32, Sparks, Nevada
Sean Hines, 20, Santa Rosa
Brittany Moorman, 26, Oakland
Yesenia Mendez, 22, city unknown
Emily Gillespie, 22, Berkeley
Sean Dougan, 47, Portland, Oregon
Rachel Moore, 40, Oakland
Joshua Phillips, 36, Oakland

Hope someone in LE and/or CT is compiling a flip-book of these dirtbags' faces...

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
Just in case you want to see the faces of the enemy.... these 13 were arrested in Berkeley recently and charged with various crimes. Whether they will get any punishment... or will be offered tenured teaching positions at Ivy League colleges... remains to be seen.

Pathetic, aren't they?

BerkeleyAntifaMugshots-e1504036822304.jpg


Seth Vazquez, 25, Berkeley
Mark Misohink, 23, Oakland
James Dominic, 23, Oakland
Kristopher Wyrick, 39, Alpine (San Diego County)
Harlan Pankau, 38, Jamul (San Diego County)
Levi Smith, 32, Sparks, Nevada
Sean Hines, 20, Santa Rosa
Brittany Moorman, 26, Oakland
Yesenia Mendez, 22, city unknown
Emily Gillespie, 22, Berkeley
Sean Dougan, 47, Portland, Oregon
Rachel Moore, 40, Oakland
Joshua Phillips, 36, Oakland

Hope someone in LE and/or CT is compiling a flip-book of these dirtbags' faces...

Cheers,

Sirhr

I wonder if any of them actually WORK for a living, or are they doing 'more important stuff'?
 
Hope someone in LE and/or CT is compiling a flip-book of these dirtbags' faces...
Puppets don't make many lists, but their employers an their ink do hold places in/on a certain deck of playing cards. When the game really gets started the Trump card, will be swift in coming. The nice thing about hired guns, they are only loyal to the highest bidder, or until their core beliefs are crossed. Some will even take a slot to be where they need to be, when it's time to play their hand.

 
oh yes, the evil americans and their criminal culture are finally facing justice. that's what they get for being the biggest criminals in the known universe, they really shouldn't have created so many enemies and made most of the world hate them
 
oh yes, the evil americans and their criminal culture are finally facing justice. that's what they get for being the biggest criminals in the known universe, they really shouldn't have created so many enemies and made most of the world hate them

Oh. Well, just so we're all clear, who are the good guys, then?
 
BLM, ANTIFA, KKK and the rest of the stragglers could easily be claimed to be a "clear and present danger" and dealt with accordingly.

lol that is what the typical american like yourself wishes to believe, but it isn't going to be a simple line up your enemies and slaughter them, i see america in conflict for a long time. when the most hypocritical nation in the history of existence has its fuse lit it is going to be chaos
 
Oh. Well, just so we're all clear, who are the good guys, then?

the ones who know what justice is. i am anti fascist but am not apart of antifa, and cant say if antifa is evil or not, but this started from american evil, and the enemies of evil are fighting america. america might have toned down its evil in the last 100 years but the white pride world wide christians put on earth to save the world are really digging up old memories for people in the blm and antifa groups. if americans want this to stop it is going to have to be them to make the first move to heal wounds, no matter how old
 
oh yes, the evil americans and their criminal culture are finally facing justice. that's what they get for being the biggest criminals in the known universe, they really shouldn't have created so many enemies and made most of the world hate them

Elaborate, if you have the sack!
To tell you the truth we could care less about the rest of the world who has sucked on our tit so long they think they are owed a drink when they want it. You from a country that has borders to keep your tribes in or, are you still living in a fucking cave? Tell you something prick, w/o the US this rock would have been toast long ago an speaking German while your ass was going to the gas camps., I'd be happy to see all the tit suckers, even those within this country be smoked. You fucks think you have the right to use, steal, an use our technology and we are supposed to like it, Fuck you!
 
the ones who know what justice is. i am anti fascist but am not apart of antifa, and cant say if antifa is evil or not, but this started from american evil, and the enemies of evil are fighting america. america might have toned down its evil in the last 100 years but the white pride world wide christians put on earth to save the world are really digging up old memories for people in the blm and antifa groups. if americans want this to stop it is going to have to be them to make the first move to heal wounds, no matter how old

B/S this started because assholes like you think your owed something. You will get wants coming because the awaking has started, an once the rule of law is out the window the clean up will be swift.
 
the ones who know what justice is. i am anti fascist but am not apart of antifa, and cant say if antifa is evil or not, but this started from american evil, and the enemies of evil are fighting america. america might have toned down its evil in the last 100 years but the white pride world wide christians put on earth to save the world are really digging up old memories for people in the blm and antifa groups. if americans want this to stop it is going to have to be them to make the first move to heal wounds, no matter how old

That's not what I asked. You ALREADY told us Americans are evil. I asked you who are the GOOD guys? "The ones who know what justice is" is not an answer. Justice is in the eye of the beholder. Who? Specifically? Nationality?
 
B/S this started because assholes like you think your owed something. You will get wants coming because the awaking has started, an once the rule of law is out the window the clean up will be swift.

it isnt bs, and no, for blm it started the moment england "bought" people from africa and kept going because americans let slavery continue and half of your country even fought a war to keep slaves, and for antifa it started from the beginning because america has always been far right on the old world eastern scale. if you are so retarded you cannot see that it is your own fault then i have nothing to tell you as you cannot understand it anyways. i am owed nothing, and am ready for anything. i agree with you that the awakening has been started and the entire world is now seeing america as the number 1 threat to humanity and possibly all life on earth, the clean up is going to be long, hard, and with mortal danger
 
That's not what I asked. You ALREADY told us Americans are evil. I asked you who are the GOOD guys? "The ones who know what justice is" is not an answer. Justice is in the eye of the beholder. Who? Specifically? Nationality?

in this specific case i can't say, it may be that both sides are evil and one is just trying to put down the other for personal power
 
We're dealing with a real POS here. He'd live in his Mom's basement, but trailers and log cabins don't tend to have them.

By the way, what breed is she?


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in this specific case i can't say, it may be that both sides are evil and one is just trying to put down the other for personal power

That's a cop out. Are you afraid to answer? You have no problem calling America evil but you can't say whom you think are the good? I'm not talking about "this specific case." I'm asking you, if America is evil, who are the GOOD in the world? It's a very simple question...

Where are you from?
 
We're dealing with a real POS here. He'd live in his Mom's basement, but trailers and log cabins don't tend to have them. By the way, what breed is she?

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i am not a pos, i am actually the opposite of a pos. it is just that you are a retarded american who knows nothing and is wrong about everything. it is infact you americans who are the pieces of shit, i guess when you're retarded you cant understand what the term "political consequence" means, or understand anything really
 
That's a cop out. Are you afraid to answer? You have no problem calling America evil but you can't say whom you think are the good? I'm not talking about "this specific case." I'm asking you, if America is evil, who are the GOOD in the world. It's a very simple question...

Where are you from?

it is not. no, i already did answer. i myself am a good guy, i cant say antifa are good guys or blm is good guys but they are merely reacting to american evil and american evil started this.

oh yeah and i am from mine and my people's homeland of Alaska the far West
 
Well, I'm trying my best to understand, but you refuse to educate us with your brilliant command of the subject. Please enlighten us. I've asked several times now.
 
Well, I'm trying my best to understand, but you refuse to educate us with your brilliant command of the subject. Please enlighten us. I've asked several times now.

ok, so lets just say that america is bad guy team number 1, and blm or antifa is bad guy team number 2. bad guy team number 1 antagonizes bad guy team number 2, both teams are bad and evil, but if bad guy team number 1 did not antagonize the other team, bad guy team number 2 is alot less likely to go to war with bad guy team number 1. there might not be any good guys in all situations, just less or more bad
 
it is not. no, i already did answer. i myself am a good guy, i cant say antifa are good guys or blm is good guys but they are merely reacting to american evil and american evil started this.

I'm not asking you ANYTHING about antifa or BLM, but you can't seem to get past that.

So, you are afraid to state your convictions, I suspect because you really don't have any. If you are going to call someone evil you should able to easily give an example of whom we should look to as righteous. I've asked you four times now and you can't do it. It's real easy to hate for no reason, as you do. It's more difficult to provide cogent reasons for why, and even more to offer a solution. But you can't even give one example of another country or group of people whom you think are righteous. So, you've got NOTHING to say other than whining.
 
ok, so lets just say that america is bad guy team number 1, and blm or antifa is bad guy team number 2. bad guy team number 1 antagonizes bad guy team number 2, both teams are bad and evil, but if bad guy team number 1 did not antagonize the other team, bad guy team number 2 is alot less likely to go to war with bad guy team number 1. there might not be any good guys in all situations, just less or more bad

Do you not understand that antifa and BLM are all part of America? They're the ugly part, but they are still Americans.
 
I think I know why you are the way you are, Frankie. Life in the bush without the knowledge that a Starbucks is just five minutes away just busts your trendy leftard ass, doesn't it?

https://twitter.com/frankiejames7_

http://www.longrangehunting.com/memb...ejames7.95953/

https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316950

Damn. Yet another Maser.

Oh, and by the way: lighten up, Francis.

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i agree with you that the awakening has been started and the entire world is now seeing america as the number 1 threat to humanity and possibly all life on earth, the clean up is going to be long, hard, and with mortal danger
B/S the American people are the ones waking up from years upon years of liberal B/S. This country has always been slow to respond to most everything but once it does the looks are priceless. Just like they were on election night an will be again when it starts an is over, Flyover days are over and this is the last desperate attempt of the left to save their agenda. Funny thing is you only see this kind of horseshit in librard bastions, bring your trash talking, stick carrying shit to rural or flyover America an see how it works out for you. By the way your ass would have been in a deep hole by now for what you have said here had it not been for USA buying your dirt from Russia. By the way you can thank my Grandfather an Father for building the DEW line an keeping your liberal ass safe as well. Seems you like to talk trash while on the tit, up there. Proper manners would say don't do it with your mouth full of free American Milk, but then again you being what you are, an ungrateful servant of the loosing bitch I understand. Come to Rural Alabama an see how your mouth an manners work out for you, please bring your ink with you. You better wake up for your rooting for the side that wants a breath counter on your chest, an work output meter running 24/7, but your to stupid to realize that simple fact. Your check from soros get there yet or are you like the rest he suckered an never paid?
 
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I'm not asking you ANYTHING about antifa or BLM, but you can't seem to get past that.

So, you are afraid to state your convictions, I suspect because you really don't have any. If you are going to call someone evil you should able to easily give an example of whom we should look to as righteous. I've asked you four times now and you can't do it. It's real easy to hate for no reason, as you do. It's more difficult to provide cogent reasons for why, and even more to offer a solution. But you can't even give one example of another country or group of people whom you think are righteous. So, you've got NOTHING to say other than whining.

ok then, there are no proven moral justice fighters that i can verify here. if you want a hero i suggest you look up to great general Larion, Koyukon Savage of the far West, killer of criminal invaders and fighter for justice, massacrer of england and russia here on my land. or Geronimo, defender of the homeland, enemy of evil, justice warrior. in this situation, antifa might be fighting for justice or it can be their own personal agenda, i cannot say which because i am not an expert on these groups. what i do know is, they are reacting to american evil
 
B/S the American people are the ones waking up from years upon years of liberal B/S. This country has always been slow to respond to most everything but once it does the looks are priceless. Just like they were on election night an will be again when it starts an is over, Flyover days are over and this is the last desperate attempt of the left to save their agenda. Funny thing is you only see this kind of horseshit is librard bastions, bring your trash talking, stick carrying shit to rural or flyover America an see how it works out for you. By the way your ass would have been in a deep hole by now for what you have said here had it not been for USA buying your dirt from Russia. By the way you can thank my Grandfather an Father for building the DEW line an keeping for liberal ass safe as well. Seems you like to talk trash while on the tit, up there. Proper manners would say don't do it with your mouth full of free American Milk, but then again you being what you are, an ungrateful servant of the loosing bitch I understand. Come to Rural Alabama an see how your mouth an manners work out for you, please bring your ink with you. You better wake up for your rooting for the side that wants a breath counter on your chest, an work output meter running 24/7, but your to stupid to realize that simple fact. Your check from soros get there yet or are you like the rest he suckered an never paid?

it is not bs, you are just retarded and dont know anything. the american people are still in the dark, they know nothing, are backwards, and so often the opposite of what they say is the real truth. if i went to america i would not be scared, retarded and weak people that grew up next to walmart are no threat. i dont have to thank your grandfather for anything and he most certainly does not keep me safe you retarded fuck. he has absolutely nothing to do with me, i dont know why your out of touch mind even brings such stuff up. i am not ungrateful it is just that i have nothing to be grateful for to you americans. i am rooting for my own side no one else's, and i am a firm believer in freedom and excess intelligence should only be acquired on vicious enemies not the public at large. you aren't tough american, you scare no one. even with a gun you aren't smart enough to be a threat
 
Ah, yeah. That's about what I expected. You're railing against evil, and your hero has the word "Savage" in his moniker. Do you understand irony? Veer is right. You have a teenage-depth understanding of how things in the world work (and a truly distorted one at that), and are demonstrating a severe lack of education. But that's OK. You've got all that unwarranted Hate to keep you warm at night up there, so facts are unimportant.

Nothing else for me to see here. I'm done. Have a great day. By the way, you've got some posts out there on the web that should get you some of the attention you so crave.
 
I think I know why you are the way you are, Frankie. Life in the bush without the knowledge that a Starbucks is just five minutes away just busts your trendy leftard ass, doesn't it?

https://twitter.com/frankiejames7_

http://www.longrangehunting.com/memb...ejames7.95953/

https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316950

Damn. Yet another Maser.

Oh, and by the way: lighten up, Francis.

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starbucks is something that has been introduced here within the last 200 years, it isn't difficult to live with out it like my people have done here for the last 24000 years, maybe a weak american like you wouldn't be able to handle it, but i can endure or die with out it
 
Frankie,

Don't be in such a hurry to elaborate on your cluelessness. You should realize that your opinions mean little because when it's all said and done; you will have said a LOT more than you've done.

These issues may be complex to you but not so much for the rest of us. It really is black and white versus a spectrum of grayscale.

I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain it to you.


 
Ah, yeah. That's about what I expected. You're railing against evil, and your hero has the word "Savage" in his moniker. Do you understand irony? Veer is right. You have a teenage-depth understanding of how things in the world work (and a truly distorted one at that), and are demonstrating a severe lack of education. But that's OK. You've got all that unwarranted Hate to keep you warm at night up there, so facts are unimportant.

we were named savages by the americans, i am just using familiar terminology. my own people's name for ourselves is the Dena indians if you were curious. and being a savage doesn't mean you are evil, evil is more like you think you and your people or religion or culture is better so you have to invade other people's countries and genocide the ones unlike you. that is what evil is. i am not demonstrating a severe lack of education i am infact showing considerable understanding of truth and reality
 
Frankie,

Don't be in such a hurry to elaborate on your cluelessness. You should realize that your opinions mean little because when it's all said and done; you will have said a LOT more than you've done.

These issues may be complex to you but not so much for the rest of us. It really is black and white versus a spectrum of grayscale.

I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain it to you.

i am happy to inform you, i cannot hurry to do something that i cannot do. i couldn't be clueless if i tried
 
it is not bs, you are just retarded and dont know anything. the american people are still in the dark, they know nothing, are backwards, and so often the opposite of what they say is the real truth. if i went to america i would not be scared, retarded and weak people that grew up next to walmart are no threat. i dont have to thank your grandfather for anything and he most certainly does not keep me safe you retarded fuck. he has absolutely nothing to do with me, i dont know why your out of touch mind even brings such stuff up. i am not ungrateful it is just that i have nothing to be grateful for to you americans. i am rooting for my own side no one else's, and i am a firm believer in freedom and excess intelligence should only be acquired on vicious enemies not the public at large. you aren't tough american, you scare no one. even with a gun you aren't smart enough to be a threat

You really are educated beyond your intelligence. You ass-u-me a lot which has been the bane of many under educated tribes. We don't need guns, in fact bringing a gun to a mind fuck is counter intuitive, if you understand what that means? Doing battle with the likes of you is a none challenge, George, Hillery, Obama, or whoever you identify with today.
 
ok then, there are no proven moral justice fighters that i can verify here. if you want a hero i suggest you look up to great general Larion, Koyukon Savage of the far West, killer of criminal invaders and fighter for justice, massacrer of england and russia here on my land. or Geronimo, defender of the homeland, enemy of evil, justice warrior. in this situation, antifa might be fighting for justice or it can be their own personal agenda, i cannot say which because i am not an expert on these groups. what i do know is, they are reacting to american evil

Frankie,

I'm really trying to parse things out and am having a difficult time. I understand that you think we are a bunch of retards, and to that end I plea for you to give things a go and answer some of the questions here, in a way that I might understand. They are certainly fair questions. I really want to know by what reasoning you are alternately grouping Americans together (the evil Americans) and as distinct groups (those fighting evil). To be fair, I am hoping you have a good basis for that as simply digested buckets of human groups is a hallmark of the left.

But I am far more interested in what brought you here to begin with. The folks here are a highly varied group that happens to have a common interest in shooting sports. And you? Where you are coming from might help.

MTT
 
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You really are educated beyond your intelligence. You ass-u-me a lot which has been the bane of many under educated tribes. We don't need guns, in fact bringing a gun to a mind fuck is counter intuitive, if you understand what that means? Doing battle with the likes of you is a none challenge, George, Hillery, Obama, or whoever you identify with today.

hmmmmm, i dont know what that means but retards like you often confuse the brains of individuals who dont have brain damage or arent born retarded. battle with me would be easy because nothing is easier than getting killed by a vicious enemy. a hint for you, if you grew up next to walmart you aren't vicious lol