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“It’s basically a politics or an activity of social revolutionary self defense. It’s a pan-left radical politics uniting communists, socialists, anarchists and various different radical leftists together for the shared purpose of combating the far right,” Mr. Bray said Saturday when asked to specifically define Antifa.
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“Even if a group does not intend for that to be the way to go about it, if you’re organizing against violent fascists, being able to defend yourselves can unfortunately come in handy,” he replied. “I agree most of the time, in most circumstances, non-violent means are effective and it’s really very fundamental to building a popular movement to influence public opinion.”
The professor asserted that critics take his words out of context before he was asked if he considers charging down peaceful neo-Nazis a form of self-defense.
“I try not to wade too far into ‘What about this and what about this,’” the professor told NBC. “I like to leave it as general as ‘I support collective self-defense against fascism and Nazism.’”
“So basically, you don’t want to take a clear position on that specific distinction (between self defense and preemptive attack),” countered reporter Benjy Sarlin.
“In the abstract. I’m going to leave it at that if you don’t mind,” said Mr. Bray.
[h=1]Dartmouth professor calls Antifa violence ‘vital’ form of ‘collective self-defense’[/h] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/28/mark-bray-dartmouth-professor-calls-vital-antifa-v/
[h=1]Dartmouth professor calls Antifa violence ‘vital’ form of ‘collective self-defense’[/h] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/28/mark-bray-dartmouth-professor-calls-vital-antifa-v/
Right or not; self defense will happen. These losers need to understand the reality of the can of worms that they are opening. The only downside is that if they get hurt; they won't go to jail...the "right wing fascist" will pay the price. I think most of us know that and that is the reason there haven't been a lot of counter protests where these guys are forced to see the light
another spineless cuck calling for violence without wanting to look like hes calling for violence.......guy doesnt even have the balls to stand behind his convictions.....just wants to hide behind a veil of ambiguity.
so does that mean we have the right of "self defense" from violent anarcho-communists?.........i mean, it a 2 way street right?
^^^ It is what 'Media Matters" has been planning for ages. And you know where their funding comes from....
Cheers,
Sirhr
This is a true statement. The violence by both Antifa and BLM is designed to make someone snap and fight back. Then the media will kick into gear and prosecute the "violent right". It's all been predicated and prepped.
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Just in case you want to see the faces of the enemy.... these 13 were arrested in Berkeley recently and charged with various crimes. Whether they will get any punishment... or will be offered tenured teaching positions at Ivy League colleges... remains to be seen.
Pathetic, aren't they?
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Seth Vazquez, 25, Berkeley
Mark Misohink, 23, Oakland
James Dominic, 23, Oakland
Kristopher Wyrick, 39, Alpine (San Diego County)
Harlan Pankau, 38, Jamul (San Diego County)
Levi Smith, 32, Sparks, Nevada
Sean Hines, 20, Santa Rosa
Brittany Moorman, 26, Oakland
Yesenia Mendez, 22, city unknown
Emily Gillespie, 22, Berkeley
Sean Dougan, 47, Portland, Oregon
Rachel Moore, 40, Oakland
Joshua Phillips, 36, Oakland
Hope someone in LE and/or CT is compiling a flip-book of these dirtbags' faces...
Cheers,
Sirhr
Puppets don't make many lists, but their employers an their ink do hold places in/on a certain deck of playing cards. When the game really gets started the Trump card, will be swift in coming. The nice thing about hired guns, they are only loyal to the highest bidder, or until their core beliefs are crossed. Some will even take a slot to be where they need to be, when it's time to play their hand.Hope someone in LE and/or CT is compiling a flip-book of these dirtbags' faces...
oh yes, the evil americans and their criminal culture are finally facing justice. that's what they get for being the biggest criminals in the known universe, they really shouldn't have created so many enemies and made most of the world hate them
BLM, ANTIFA, KKK and the rest of the stragglers could easily be claimed to be a "clear and present danger" and dealt with accordingly.
Oh. Well, just so we're all clear, who are the good guys, then?
oh yes, the evil americans and their criminal culture are finally facing justice. that's what they get for being the biggest criminals in the known universe, they really shouldn't have created so many enemies and made most of the world hate them
the ones who know what justice is. i am anti fascist but am not apart of antifa, and cant say if antifa is evil or not, but this started from american evil, and the enemies of evil are fighting america. america might have toned down its evil in the last 100 years but the white pride world wide christians put on earth to save the world are really digging up old memories for people in the blm and antifa groups. if americans want this to stop it is going to have to be them to make the first move to heal wounds, no matter how old
the ones who know what justice is. i am anti fascist but am not apart of antifa, and cant say if antifa is evil or not, but this started from american evil, and the enemies of evil are fighting america. america might have toned down its evil in the last 100 years but the white pride world wide christians put on earth to save the world are really digging up old memories for people in the blm and antifa groups. if americans want this to stop it is going to have to be them to make the first move to heal wounds, no matter how old
B/S this started because assholes like you think your owed something. You will get wants coming because the awaking has started, an once the rule of law is out the window the clean up will be swift.
That's not what I asked. You ALREADY told us Americans are evil. I asked you who are the GOOD guys? "The ones who know what justice is" is not an answer. Justice is in the eye of the beholder. Who? Specifically? Nationality?
in this specific case i can't say, it may be that both sides are evil and one is just trying to put down the other for personal power
We're dealing with a real POS here. He'd live in his Mom's basement, but trailers and log cabins don't tend to have them. By the way, what breed is she?
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That's a cop out. Are you afraid to answer? You have no problem calling America evil but you can't say whom you think are the good? I'm not talking about "this specific case." I'm asking you, if America is evil, who are the GOOD in the world. It's a very simple question...
Where are you from?
Well, I'm trying my best to understand, but you refuse to educate us with your brilliant command of the subject. Please enlighten us. I've asked several times now.
it is not. no, i already did answer. i myself am a good guy, i cant say antifa are good guys or blm is good guys but they are merely reacting to american evil and american evil started this.
ok, so lets just say that america is bad guy team number 1, and blm or antifa is bad guy team number 2. bad guy team number 1 antagonizes bad guy team number 2, both teams are bad and evil, but if bad guy team number 1 did not antagonize the other team, bad guy team number 2 is alot less likely to go to war with bad guy team number 1. there might not be any good guys in all situations, just less or more bad
B/S the American people are the ones waking up from years upon years of liberal B/S. This country has always been slow to respond to most everything but once it does the looks are priceless. Just like they were on election night an will be again when it starts an is over, Flyover days are over and this is the last desperate attempt of the left to save their agenda. Funny thing is you only see this kind of horseshit in librard bastions, bring your trash talking, stick carrying shit to rural or flyover America an see how it works out for you. By the way your ass would have been in a deep hole by now for what you have said here had it not been for USA buying your dirt from Russia. By the way you can thank my Grandfather an Father for building the DEW line an keeping your liberal ass safe as well. Seems you like to talk trash while on the tit, up there. Proper manners would say don't do it with your mouth full of free American Milk, but then again you being what you are, an ungrateful servant of the loosing bitch I understand. Come to Rural Alabama an see how your mouth an manners work out for you, please bring your ink with you. You better wake up for your rooting for the side that wants a breath counter on your chest, an work output meter running 24/7, but your to stupid to realize that simple fact. Your check from soros get there yet or are you like the rest he suckered an never paid?i agree with you that the awakening has been started and the entire world is now seeing america as the number 1 threat to humanity and possibly all life on earth, the clean up is going to be long, hard, and with mortal danger
I'm not asking you ANYTHING about antifa or BLM, but you can't seem to get past that.
So, you are afraid to state your convictions, I suspect because you really don't have any. If you are going to call someone evil you should able to easily give an example of whom we should look to as righteous. I've asked you four times now and you can't do it. It's real easy to hate for no reason, as you do. It's more difficult to provide cogent reasons for why, and even more to offer a solution. But you can't even give one example of another country or group of people whom you think are righteous. So, you've got NOTHING to say other than whining.
B/S the American people are the ones waking up from years upon years of liberal B/S. This country has always been slow to respond to most everything but once it does the looks are priceless. Just like they were on election night an will be again when it starts an is over, Flyover days are over and this is the last desperate attempt of the left to save their agenda. Funny thing is you only see this kind of horseshit is librard bastions, bring your trash talking, stick carrying shit to rural or flyover America an see how it works out for you. By the way your ass would have been in a deep hole by now for what you have said here had it not been for USA buying your dirt from Russia. By the way you can thank my Grandfather an Father for building the DEW line an keeping for liberal ass safe as well. Seems you like to talk trash while on the tit, up there. Proper manners would say don't do it with your mouth full of free American Milk, but then again you being what you are, an ungrateful servant of the loosing bitch I understand. Come to Rural Alabama an see how your mouth an manners work out for you, please bring your ink with you. You better wake up for your rooting for the side that wants a breath counter on your chest, an work output meter running 24/7, but your to stupid to realize that simple fact. Your check from soros get there yet or are you like the rest he suckered an never paid?
I think I know why you are the way you are, Frankie. Life in the bush without the knowledge that a Starbucks is just five minutes away just busts your trendy leftard ass, doesn't it?
https://twitter.com/frankiejames7_
http://www.longrangehunting.com/memb...ejames7.95953/
https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316950
Damn. Yet another Maser.
Oh, and by the way: lighten up, Francis.
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Ah, yeah. That's about what I expected. You're railing against evil, and your hero has the word "Savage" in his moniker. Do you understand irony? Veer is right. You have a teenage-depth understanding of how things in the world work (and a truly distorted one at that), and are demonstrating a severe lack of education. But that's OK. You've got all that unwarranted Hate to keep you warm at night up there, so facts are unimportant.
Frankie,
Don't be in such a hurry to elaborate on your cluelessness. You should realize that your opinions mean little because when it's all said and done; you will have said a LOT more than you've done.
These issues may be complex to you but not so much for the rest of us. It really is black and white versus a spectrum of grayscale.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain it to you.
it is not bs, you are just retarded and dont know anything. the american people are still in the dark, they know nothing, are backwards, and so often the opposite of what they say is the real truth. if i went to america i would not be scared, retarded and weak people that grew up next to walmart are no threat. i dont have to thank your grandfather for anything and he most certainly does not keep me safe you retarded fuck. he has absolutely nothing to do with me, i dont know why your out of touch mind even brings such stuff up. i am not ungrateful it is just that i have nothing to be grateful for to you americans. i am rooting for my own side no one else's, and i am a firm believer in freedom and excess intelligence should only be acquired on vicious enemies not the public at large. you aren't tough american, you scare no one. even with a gun you aren't smart enough to be a threat
ok then, there are no proven moral justice fighters that i can verify here. if you want a hero i suggest you look up to great general Larion, Koyukon Savage of the far West, killer of criminal invaders and fighter for justice, massacrer of england and russia here on my land. or Geronimo, defender of the homeland, enemy of evil, justice warrior. in this situation, antifa might be fighting for justice or it can be their own personal agenda, i cannot say which because i am not an expert on these groups. what i do know is, they are reacting to american evil
You really are educated beyond your intelligence. You ass-u-me a lot which has been the bane of many under educated tribes. We don't need guns, in fact bringing a gun to a mind fuck is counter intuitive, if you understand what that means? Doing battle with the likes of you is a none challenge, George, Hillery, Obama, or whoever you identify with today.