Is it hypocritical.........

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    That the establishment wants to make a big deal about the death of Muslim Brotherhood Kashoggi and cause a rift between SA and the USA yet.....

    China kidnaps the head of Interpol with no word regarding his status, in fact he is being replaced at Interpol as if he never existed, and we hear crickets?

    SA is a bunch of assholes and should be held accountable for 9/11 but Im guessing that the current Crown Prince is willing to play a role in some sort of peace deal regards the Palestinians and Israel.

    Trump having anything to do with solving that puzzle is more than the establishment can stand so Kashoggi Bears death must be the cause to put more hardline Wahabbists back in power.

    Im not thinking this Crown Prince is a Libertarian but I think he may be amenable to cutting back on the proselytizing outside the borders of the Kingdom in exchange for his tighter control of his realm.

    but China gets to be just as brutal with nothing in exchange for us.

    Lindsey Graham of course is getting all conflicted on this. A weekend with Don Lemon for him would be good.
     
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    Punishing SA would drive oil prices high and damage the economy...which would be bad for Trump and good for the Left. That's all that matters. Hypocrisy is a concept they have not even the least concerns over.
     
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    vh20 said:
    Punishing SA would drive oil prices high and damage the economy...which would be bad for Trump and good for the Left. That's all that matters. Hypocrisy is a concept they have not even the least concerns over.
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    If SA raises its oil prices our frac wells increase production. High foreign oil is good for domestic oil.

    We just have to get over the idea that high world oil prices mean our producers make the buck by selling over seas and we instead use some of those natural resources domestically to control our prices/benefit our industry.

    Im thinking this is more than an oil issue.
     
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    pmclaine said:
    but China gets to be just as brutal with nothing in exchange for us.
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    Follow the money and Communist influence.

    You'll find that over the past 10 years all of Hollywood and all the "News" organizations , as well as all the big technocrats have systematically removed anything that is against the wishes of the Chinese and do their best to follow their "suggestions". You'll find Chinese money ties all over Hollywood.

    Then you look at our institutes of "higher indoctrination" and find they are fully infested with Chinese Communist spies, paid agents and outright propagandists. The "newspaper" owned by Bezos actually publishes an entire section dedicated to straight Chinese communist party propaganda as "advertising".

    The Democrats and Technocrats wine about "Russian Hackers" when the Chinese are busy brazenly ripping off everything from the OPM to defense contractors and private companies... but hardly a peep.

    Basically everything you buy that says "made in china" is helping pay for the Chinese undermining this country.
     
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    Bender said:
    We need to turn the Middle East to glass. That would solve it.
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    Don't even need to do that. Everyone simply stop buying their oil & walk away... it will sort itself out pretty quickly and then you might only need a couple nukes or the threat of them to keep the remaining warlords happy playing in their own sandbox.

    We don't even have to worry about protecting Israel, just tell them we don't care, do as you wish. They can nuke the stuffing out of the whole middle east if they want and save us the trouble.

    We need our nukes for China.
     
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    Meh, I don't see why it is our business to police the world on human rights violations. The reporter was an idiot for walking into that building. I wouldn't have gone within 100 miles of anything owned buy SA if I was him. But I guess that is what happens when you let an Ideology take over logic in your brain.
     
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    2ndamendfan said:
    Meh, I don't see why it is our business to police the world on human rights violations. The reporter was an idiot for walking into that building. I wouldn't have gone within 100 miles of anything owned buy SA if I was him. But I guess that is what happens when you let an Ideology take over logic in your brain.
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    Yeah, I don't see why President Trump or America is responsible for this guys dumbness getting him killed. People all over the world get killed doing dumb things every day!
     
    #10
    vh20 said:
    I'm sure it is, but it's definitely a part of it - at least Trump himself thinks so.
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    Trump cant say what the real issue is without being excoriated.

    The truth is the CP is a typical hypocritical muslim that when he isnt wearing his robes looking like the protector of Mecca he is in cargo shorts and sunglasses enjoying vegas.

    Still want to know what the connection is with SA, the vegas shooting, and all those saudi royals that ended up in "jail" at the Riyadh Ritz Carlton all within a short period of time.

    The silence is thunderous.
     
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    SA is under new leadership. The assholes who funded 9/11 are also financiers of the deep state. Most of those royals got hung up and tortured by blackwater dudes and had to pay for their lives. That is why the world is coming down hard on MBS becuase they want him gone.

    MBS and Trump are the biggest threats to the globalist cabal. They are disproving the bullshit globalist lies and there is a massive force trying to bring both down. This corruption spans countries, multi Nationals, ngo's, political parties. Pretty much all financial institutions,ect.

    SA kills thousands of shitheads a month. The only difference is this was a deep state CIA funded(wash post) Muslim brotherhood cat who's job it was to sow discord at MBS and his new anti wahhabi empire. Radical islam and the deep state go hand in hand. They are intertwined.

    Both Trump and MBS are under constant 24/7 attack by people with more money than you can I'mma give becuase they are upsetting the apple cart. The crony aristocracy is being threatened. People are starting to wake up. The new robber Barron's are Zucker, bezos, Soros, Warren, most senior elected officials, heads and boards of f500 company's, pretty much any financial institution, ect. It's a rigged game and they control it.

    Trump and co threaten that game. SA knows it's oil will dry up soon and even with oil they can compete with shale oil and gas. The world is flush with oil and gas and they need to find another way to subsidize their country lof welfare rats. Trump gave them an option to diversify and move away from being goat fucking pedophiles by joining the 21st century. Hopefully he can weather the storm. If he was smart he would have killed off all those dickheads. Dead people can't hurt you.
     
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    W54/XM-388 said:
    Don't even need to do that. Everyone simply stop buying their oil & walk away... it will sort itself out pretty quickly and then you might only need a couple nukes or the threat of them to keep the remaining warlords happy playing in their own sandbox.

    We don't even have to worry about protecting Israel, just tell them we don't care, do as you wish. They can nuke the stuffing out of the whole middle east if they want and save us the trouble.

    We need our nukes for China.
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    SA is one of our closest allies and one of the only ones that can be trusted now. They also buy tons of us made defense that keeps Americans in well paying jobs. The added benefit is those weapons are used against our enemies. It's a great deal.

    We should do more trade and work on turning SA into a western culture.
     
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    Primus said:
    SA is one of our closest allies and one of the only ones that can be trusted now. They also buy tons of us made defense that keeps Americans in well paying jobs. The added benefit is those weapons are used against our enemies. It's a great deal.

    We should do more trade and work on turning SA into a western culture.
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    Thats the dumbest shit I ever read on here. And I have posted some dumb shit,
     
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    You do realiza there was a coup and the dudes in charge are our closest allies? They even stood up a massive anti terrosim fusion center to help combat wahhabism.

    Open a newspaper sometime, you are woefull missinformed on current events.
     
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    Who is they? If you mean the people stripped of their positions, arrested and herded into the Ritz, hung by their ankles and tortured, some killed while being stripped of their wealth( which was used to buy shitbirds like the Clinton's, McCain, bushes while funding terrosim abroad) and placed under house arrest.

    Yeah there is a new sherrif in town, his name is MBS and he takes his marching orders from Trump.

    All this noise and bullshit is the cabal fighting back trying to get the king to name one of the wahhabism faction princes as the crown prince instead. It's going to decide how SA rolls for the next 100 years. Do they become friendly western allies or do we have to go in there and serve them with a couple thousand tons of Raytheon freedom?

    Like I said you are woefull missinformed of current events
     
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    you...are.....a......fucking idiot,,,,,,, you ....sound.....like.......GW BUsh or a statist family menmber, Man are you fucking dumb.


    Primus said:
    Who is they? If you mean the people stripped of their positions, arrested and herded into the Ritz, hung by their ankles and tortured, some killed while being stripped of their wealth( which was used to buy shitbirds like the Clinton's, McCain, bushes while funding terrosim abroad) and placed under house arrest.

    Yeah there is a new sherrif in town, his name is MBS and he takes his marching orders from Trump.

    All this noise and bullshit is the cabal fighting back trying to get the king to name one of the wahhabism faction princes as the crown prince instead. It's going to decide how SA rolls for the next 100 years. Do they become friendly western allies or do we have to go in there and serve them with a couple thousand tons of Raytheon freedom?

    Like I said you are woefull missinformed of current events
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    So many people have bought into the overblown myth of what Nuclear Weapons can do. Yes, they can cause mass death if used in a population center, but they can not kill everyone in a country. We could use all the bombs we have on SA and kill only those who live in cities, so killing them all simply will not work.

    I had a Professor once who having read that a particular Nuke used in NYC could kill five million people. He calculated from that that 650 bombs could kill every person on the planet, completely neglecting the simple truth that the smartest people in each country don't clump up that way.
     
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    2ndamendfan said:
    Meh, I don't see why it is our business to police the world on human rights violations. The reporter was an idiot for walking into that building. I wouldn't have gone within 100 miles of anything owned buy SA if I was him. But I guess that is what happens when you let an Ideology take over logic in your brain.
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    He was a CIA backed Muslim brotherhood shitbag. I hope it was slow and he felt every cut of the knife. Pieces of shit like him are the reason we had the Arab spring and massive destabilization of the middle East.

    Back in 2009 the ME was quiet and relatively peacefully. Iraq was safe. Then Obama pulled the troops out and used his state department and the CIA to throw a grenade in the powder keg and destroy untold lives. When you look at it as a whole, it's one of the greatest human rights violations in recent history. Syria, Libya, Egypt, yemmen, Qatar, SA, Iraq, use, turkey ext all got dragged into this shit. After AQ was all but defeated, they helped the rise of ISIS to keep the ME fucked up. Clinton, Obama and Brennen should all die slow painfully deaths for not only the destruction they caused, but the countless American lives lost in dealing with this bullshit.
     
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    diverdon said:
    This is not the kind of pantywaist board where you can get banned over a little healthy debate.
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    It's not debate when you call someone a "fucking retards" because they have a differing view. In fact the forum rules state it pretty clearly. I got a timeout for doing something similar before so now I don't.

    At any rate he can't debate and even if he could he's still wrong. It's hilarious to see people be so ignorant about a subject and willing to go down with the ship over it.

    Anyone who doesn't understand why and how MBS became the crown price and the changes in SA over the last 2 years must live on Mars. Hell there is a 1500 page thread on ar15.com dedicated to it.

    Truth is today, they are one of our greatest allies. Britian, France, Canada, nz and Aussie(5 eyes) have more in common with our enemy than current SA leadership. Isreal only cares about itself and has and will sell us out as soon as it's convient for them. This is why the media , eu and deep state are trying so hard to drive a wedge between Trump and MBS. If they can stave off the attacks, they will become one of our closest allies long term. Or at least until another Democrat or Bush gets elected and tries to destroy the world again.
     
    #35
    I think there is something different about MBS but its not that he is the next coming of Ghandi.

    He has a use for us and the establishment does not want that use exercised.

    He isnt all the sudden going to allow religious freedom in the country, he has appearances to keep, but like most high place muslims he uses his religion as a tool of power more than one to ensure his spiritual health.

    Im guessing his dad was presented with some shit by Trump regards 9/11 and MBS was the result.

    Be willing to bet Obama made some promises to Iran in his "peace deal" that wouldnt have worked out to well for the saudis so MBS sees Trump antagonizing Iran as a good thing.

    Everyone has to realize we are note the only ones with "Make (fill in country name here) Great Again" hats.

    Despite the Globalist wet dream countries and people work based on THEIR interests.

    Whats in it for us? Whats in it for SA?
     
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    Exactly, now were talking. These changes have to take place over time and one of the benefits of a monarchy is they aren't subject to the winds changing every 4 years.

    Between all the dirt has on SA and the fact their economy has to diversity if they don't want to become the next Somolia, they didn't really have a choice. The king knows the US is the only thing keeping Iran and allies from stomping a Mudd hole in their royal ass and after Obama fucked them over by supporting and bolstering Iran, they sure as hell didn't want a Trump admin who has the ammo ( dirt on SA) to turn on them.

    Now the question will be after Trump's term, when we get a rabbid communist, will SA go back to their usual bullshit? Who knows. The US's reliance of SA oil and gas is almost gone so unless they have something else to offer, there is not much reason for us to train, maintain and support them. Fighting terrorism ala Jordan and becoming a moral Ally may be their saving grace when they don't have much to offer exonomically.
     
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    Petro Dollars you have to buy dollars from us to buy oil from them. Stop that and see what happens. The left cry's because they know nothing will change and they look virtuous. JMHO
     
    #42
    Kashoggi (or however the fuck you spell it), Saudi national killed by Saudis, it's a Saudi problem. I don't give a flying fuck, and believe 100% my government shouldn't give a fuck either. Arab problems are not to be our problem.

    MBS and trying to bring SA out of its ancient mindset, again, don't give a fuck. I believe in a state being able to call the shots within their own borders. They want to be backwards, let them be backwards. Just enact a blanket visa ban while we're at it, right along with the rest of the backwards nations. India is another on my hit list too (can't be "racist" in the ban, of course), bunch of caste driven slave holding fucks there that don't rate to set one foot on American soil.

    Selling defense hardware there and making American jobs? Bullshit reasoning. I hope there's a backdoor into the OS of those jets where we can crash them with a flip of a switch, because I frown on selling good shit to someone we or our allies may one day fight. Same goes for Egypt rocking Abrams tanks, I've been dumbfounded by that for decades.

    As for them being an ally? Bullshit again. Allies go to war alongside us, they sat out every fight allowing our enemies to cry jihad as a recruiting tool. If they were an ally, they would have been right there with us in Afghan and Iraq, and there would have been no Iran nuke deal because SA would have already leveled the sites with American made '16s.. They're lazy ass pussies like the rest in that region, much happier on the sidelines and having someone else do their dirty work, while they reap the benefits of an insecure global economy.

    We buy very little of their oil these days, and I hope we buy even less with each passing day and each time oil goes up a buck a barrel making Bakken and the rest all that much more lucrative. Buy American and Canadian crude whenever possible is my philosophy, and not a drop should cross an ocean to get here. Oil is a dying energy source, let's kill it off with nuclear, coal and renewables, and let Arabia as a whole and Russia go back in their hole where they belong.
     
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    yup, fuck them and their cheerleaders here in the USA.



    Redmanss said:
    Kashoggi (or however the fuck you spell it), Saudi national killed by Saudis, it's a Saudi problem. I don't give a flying fuck, and believe 100% my government shouldn't give a fuck either. Arab problems are not to be our problem.

    MBS and trying to bring SA out of its ancient mindset, again, don't give a fuck. I believe in a state being able to call the shots within their own borders. They want to be backwards, let them be backwards. Just enact a blanket visa ban while we're at it, right along with the rest of the backwards nations. India is another on my hit list too (can't be "racist" in the ban, of course), bunch of caste driven slave holding fucks there that don't rate to set one foot on American soil.

    Selling defense hardware there and making American jobs? Bullshit reasoning. I hope there's a backdoor into the OS of those jets where we can crash them with a flip of a switch, because I frown on selling good shit to someone we or our allies may one day fight. Same goes for Egypt rocking Abrams tanks, I've been dumbfounded by that for decades.

    As for them being an ally? Bullshit again. Allies go to war alongside us, they sat out every fight allowing our enemies to cry jihad as a recruiting tool. If they were an ally, they would have been right there with us in Afghan and Iraq, and there would have been no Iran nuke deal because SA would have already leveled the sites with American made '16s.. They're lazy ass pussies like the rest in that region, much happier on the sidelines and having someone else do their dirty work, while they reap the benefits of an insecure global economy.

    We buy very little of their oil these days, and I hope we buy even less with each passing day and each time oil goes up a buck a barrel making Bakken and the rest all that much more lucrative. Buy American and Canadian crude whenever possible is my philosophy, and not a drop should cross an ocean to get here. Oil is a dying energy source, let's kill it off with nuclear, coal and renewables, and let Arabia as a whole and Russia go back in their hole where they belong.
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    #44
    Primus said:
    Wow nice insults i guess u want to get banned.

    That's what happens when you can't debate.

    You clearly know nothing about what's going on.

    It's kind of comical actually.
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    Hear! hear! That shit won't get you banned here either. And we don't debate here. And of course he clearly doesn't know what is going on here and that is precisely why he succeeds here. Actually, it is supposed to be comical here. Why are you here? Everybody knows through PM that you have been sexually harassing @Bender. You've seriously got to stop doing that. It is too funny and Bender is a known prude.
     
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    Culpeper said:
    Hear! hear! That shit won't get you banned here either. And we don't debate here. And of course he clearly doesn't know what is going on here and that is precisely why he succeeds here. Actually, it is supposed to be comical here. Why are you here? Everybody knows through PM that you have been sexually harassing @Bender. You've seriously got to stop doing that. It is too funny and Bender is a known prude.
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    I won’t even share what was said.....
     
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