Rifle Scopes New Meopta Scope - Optika6

[koshkin]

I had a long meeting with Meopta regarding these scopes, reticles for these scopes, and a few other projects they have in the works.

Good things are coming from Meopta. They are listening to market feedback and making appropriate conclusions.

ILya

 

[gr8fuldoug]

I see the 30x model only has the mil dot ret on the web site. Will they be adding the tree ret to that model too? There will most definitely be more reticles added across the line of scopes

Do you know if the windage turret on the 4.5-27 and 5-30 is a push to lock type? The only locking windage is on the 1-6x24 FFP, to the best of my understanding

Did I understand correctly that the 3-18sfp does not have a zero stop function, whereas the 3-18ffp does? Correct

 

[maysys]

Meopta has always had great glass, but this news jumps them to the top of my next scope list.

Can't wait to see expanded reticle selections, hopefully before next hunting season.

 

[chasedeer]

Meopta make great scope i'm happy to see this and might finally call a shot on this

 

[Harman117]

Going off on a tangent: Looking at their website I also noticed the Meotac 3-12x50 RD. Found out someone had posted about it previously on the hide but only got a few responses.

Does anyone have any experience with this scope?

 

[koshkin]

Going off on a tangent: Looking at their website I also noticed the Meotac 3-12x50 RD. Found out someone had posted about it previously on the hide but only got a few responses.

Does anyone have any experience with this scope?

I do not think it is in full production yet. Soon though.

Optomechanically, it is a very solid scope.

ILya

 

[Kevins750]

So, just to be clear: by release date we could see more reticle choices?

I am interested in 2.5-15x44 in SFP. With capped turrets.

 

[osu92]

I had a long meeting with Meopta regarding these scopes, reticles for these scopes, and a few other projects they have in the works.

Good things are coming from Meopta. They are listening to market feedback and making appropriate conclusions.

ILya

I had the chance to talk with Randy at SHOT as well and they’ve got some really interesting things in the works. And they’re intentionally setting price points to attract consumers. They’re also supporting their dealers more so than some other manufacturers I believe.

I can’t wait to get one (or two!!) of these Optika6 ‘s in my hands.

 

[koshkin]

So, just to be clear: by release date we could see more reticle choices?

I am interested in 2.5-15x44 in SFP. With capped turrets.

Probably, but I do not know which model will get which reticle.

What kind of a reticle would you want in a 2.5-15x44 SFP scope?

ILya

 

[holy cow]

I am very interested in the SFP scopes for hunting. I went to their site to see the reticle choices. Is their a place that you can see them larger? They are to small to see.

 

[Diver160651]

Funny how us American "need SFP" scopes for "hunting", when in fact the FFP was designed for hunting dangerous game with lead teeth and claws.

The guys with SFP that hate that the reticle's subtensions are unreadable at lets say 3-5x on a 3-15. But I think they are missing the point, I've never needed to hold wind or elevation were the largest FOV is critical as the range is also reduced. Turning on daylight illumination makes the reticle look like a duplex for fast close range.. Longer range shots your holds are always correct without having to be on max power...

Other than red dot type hunting, hunting were subtensions are not of value, if you have a scope with subtentions one should really consider FFP..

 

[koshkin]

I am generally in the "FFP for almost everything" camp, but SFP clearly works fine for a lot of people, so there is nothing wrong with a personal preference.

As far as Meopta reticles go, I have their reticle manual, but it is from 2016 and their have been line-up changes since then. I'll ask if they have a new one.

In the meantime, you can download their 2018 catalog which has larger pictures.

ILya

 

[Novak77]

I'd love to check out one of the 3-18x50 FFPs when they come out. I've always been a fan of Meopta's glass.

 

[Kevins750]

I would think a bdc would suffice. Just wasn't sure if a "cooler" reticle would be offered later.

 

[Burdy]

I have all their reticles, save for some of the new cartridge specific ones that will be found in the Optika6, so if there is one you want to see larger, let me know.

 

[DetroitRearView]

I use both FFP and 2fp for hunting, I really like my ATACR 4-16x42 FFP MiL-r on my LR match 300N/338L Blaser for packing in a mile or 2. But when I want to go light I love my 20 oz SFP NF MIL-r scopes on a lighter barrels/rifles for deep mountaineering.

I dial if I have time on a 600-800 yard poke and hold wind. If I don’t have time I hold over and find that 10X (SFP) is not too much magnification for those longer shots and 300 yards is a no brainer at 2.5-6x for any of my setups all of which have 100 yards zeros.

Even when using my 4-16 at longer range whether dialing or holding I just magnify to whatever is comfortable for the circumstance / animal / desired placement and find that I am (almost always) somewhere between 7-12X.

I see many hunters in my experience over magnify and if they need a second shot they are unable to find the animal because the FOV.

A month or so ago I was target shooting my 300N ATACR setup shooting 1400 yards @ 16X, getting 1/2 moa results, dilated down to 10x and achieved very close to the same results.

Now for target practice I absolutely loved my 7-35 Mil-c reticle, shooting the same hole time after time at 100 yards - but for hunting I have not found the need the higher magnification scopes.

 

[captainemil]

Do not know about the scope , but I have the HD 10x50 bino's and I will put them up agnest any binoculars out there.

 

[holy cow]

I am generally in the "FFP for almost everything" camp, but SFP clearly works fine for a lot of people, so there is nothing wrong with a personal preference.

As far as Meopta reticles go, I have their reticle manual, but it is from 2016 and their have been line-up changes since then. I'll ask if they have a new one.

In the meantime, you can download their 2018 catalog which has larger pictures.

ILya

Thanks for the reply

 

[wapiti16b]

Meopta is a new product to me, so this has really peaked my interest. Historically what can I expect from this manufacturer quality wise?. I have questions about quality, turret feel and repeatability of tracking, also warranty and customer service if needed. I would really like a reticle similar to the Vortex GEN II as this is what I'm familiar with. I would appreciate opinions from Meopta owners and their experiences.
Thanks !

 

[Burdy]

Meopta is a new product to me, so this has really peaked my interest. Historically what can I expect from this manufacturer quality wise?. I have questions about quality, turret feel and repeatability of tracking, also warranty and customer service if needed. I would really like a reticle similar to the Vortex GEN II as this is what I'm familiar with. I would appreciate opinions from Meopta owners and their experiences.
Thanks !

Meopta is an 85 year old manufacture of sporting optics (In the Czech Republic) that OEMs for pretty much all of your famous, nose bleed European brands and some of your highly coveted brands in the US. Think of them as LOW Japan, but for European optics and from what I have heard, MEOPTA's facility blows away LOW. They may not be known well in the US, but oversees they are in the conversation with the like of Leica, Zeiss, Swaro, etc. They are putting their future efforts into showing the US what the rest of the world already knows. There is no warranty center in the US, so if you have an issue, you pretty much just get a new scope. They have a couple of SKU's that have cult like followings, namely the 3-12x56 MEOSTARs that are the one of the best light gathering scopes at any price point, as well as their MEOPro 20-60 spotting scope. I also really like their 1.7-10x42 w/ the BDC2-3. No one has gotten to actually shoot the Optika6 series yet, which is their new, mid tier price point aimed at the US market but I have handled them thoroughly and have several on order. I have no doubt they will punch well above their price point but only time will tell. As was mentioned earlier, they will be expanding reticle selections as they know that the US market has different requirements. In my mind, if they expand reticles and add parallax adjustment to more models, they will be well on their way to being as popular here as the rest of the world.

 

[Kickin45]

This is exciting. I need more rifles now for all the new scopes I want.
First world problems right?

 

[SlimySquirrel]

I am in the market for a new scope and have used the Meo Pro 4-12x50.

A mate owns a couple of different models and they always impress with clarity and eye box so I have already hit the dealer up for when they arrive here in NZ.

Was gonna get a ETR or Razor but this will hopefully fit the bill!!

Did anyone give the turrets a spin? Would also be good to see the windage dial marked L/R to be seen from from shooting position too....

 

[Kickin45]

I see they have ED glass. Do we know if it’s Schott, or some other high end Euro glass?

 

[koshkin]

I see they have ED glass. Do we know if it’s Schott, or some other high end Euro glass?

Does it matter?

 

[Kickin45]

Does it matter?

It’s more cost of production I’m thinking about.
If it is Schott, and they can keep their costs as low as they are, that may send a ripple to other manufacturers and we could see higher tier scopes for less $

 

[scharfschutze762]

You have no idea what you talking about.
Schott has factories all over the world including "CHINA" and the OEM specifies the specs and quality of the glass for their price point. As with Ohara, Hoya, HuaGo and whatever other companies they buy from. Price per lens can range from couple bucks to over a hundred bucks for same lens.

 

[Burdy]

I see they have ED glass. Do we know if it’s Schott, or some other high end Euro glass?

They actually used Flouride glass but refer to it as ED as it is more commonly known and is actually still ED. FL is ED(extra low dispersion) but ED is not necessary FL. FL will most almost always display less CA than any ED glass that does not contain flouride.
Regardless of glass manufacturer the trick is in the processing and that's something Meopta appears to do very well.

 

[wapiti16b]

Burdy, thanks for the information about Meopta, I can't wait to get a close up look at one.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

Meopta is an 85 year old manufacture of sporting optics (In the Czech Republic) that OEMs for pretty much all of your famous, nose bleed European brands and some of your highly coveted brands in the US. Think of them as LOW Japan, but for European optics and from what I have heard, MEOPTA's facility blows away LOW. They may not be known well in the US, but oversees they are in the conversation with the like of Leica, Zeiss, Swaro, etc. They are putting their future efforts into showing the US what the rest of the world already knows. There is no warranty center in the US, so if you have an issue, you pretty much just get a new scope. They have a couple of SKU's that have cult like followings, namely the 3-12x56 MEOSTARs that are the one of the best light gathering scopes at any price point, as well as their MEOPro 20-60 spotting scope. I also really like their 1.7-10x42 w/ the BDC2-3. No one has gotten to actually shoot the Optika6 series yet, which is their new, mid tier price point aimed at the US market but I have handled them thoroughly and have several on order. I have no doubt they will punch well above their price point but only time will tell. As was mentioned earlier, they will be expanding reticle selections as they know that the US market has different requirements. In my mind, if they expand reticles and add parallax adjustment to more models, they will be well on their way to being as popular here as the rest of the world.

Couldn't have said it any better

 

[wapiti16b]

Impatient bump,any news as to reticles and availability?

 

[Burdy]

Impatient bump,any news as to reticles and availability?

No, but it's close

 

[wapiti16b]

I literally cannot wait, I've since remedied my ignorance about Meopta and this looks like my best choice at a GREAT PRICE no less!

 

[buffybuster]

They actually used Flouride glass but refer to it as ED as it is more commonly known and is actually still ED. FL is ED(extra low dispersion) but ED is not necessary FL. FL will most almost always display less CA than any ED glass that does not contain flouride.
Regardless of glass manufacturer the trick is in the processing and that's something Meopta appears to do very well.

Fluorite

 

[Burdy]

Fluorite

No. Flourite is added. The glass is called flouride.

 

[silhouette]

It almost sounds too cheap to be true

 

[DirtDart]

@koshkin.
Probably, but I do not know which model will get which reticle.

What kind of a reticle would you want in a 2.5-15x44 SFP scope?

I have always like the Mil-r from nightforce. Clean and effective.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

These are still a couple/few months away from being shipped

 

[koshkin]

@koshkin.
Probably, but I do not know which model will get which reticle.

What kind of a reticle would you want in a 2.5-15x44 SFP scope?

I have always like the Mil-r from nightforce. Clean and effective.

I do not know which model will get which reticle either, but Meopta is listening, so I like the idea of getting some feedback.
Now "listening" does not mean they will put any reticle anyone wants, but they are reasonable people so market feedback is always good.

I will post a separate thread where I can collect some feedback from the forum and send the summary to Meopta.

ILya

 

[Schuhanks]

Interesting, I need a new scope and I have never heard of this company.

 

[OLI62]

If they can make these where they are DURABLE and track as well as an SWFA SS or the Bushnell LRHS at the price point mentioned I'd be all over it, especially given Meopta's reputation for excellent glass.

 

[bhoges]

I never even looked at them until Shot this year. I was very impressed. Randy and Meopta are very open to new ideas and I think they will be a brand to contend with. The new scope is packed with features at excellent pricing and its not made in China. Best of luck to them. Competition is great for the market.

 

[wapiti16b]

Meopta, if you are listening a reticle similar to the Vortex GEN IIs would be great!

 

[captainemil]

very good scopes

 

[HellsCanyonArmory]

I handled the higher mag Optika6 at SHOT for a solid 15 minutes with the engineer there. At max power there was a distinct blurry spot at 5 O'clock in the FOV. We played with eye piece focus, parallax, and checked at different ranges of the turret travels. Hoping it was the fact that it was a demo model but it wasn't confidence inspiring. Eyebox was acceptable, I won't comment on glass because it's so hard to judge in a show room indoors. Hoping it's a great scope and they figure out some realistic reticle choices!

 

[Burdy]

I handled the higher mag Optika6 at SHOT for a solid 15 minutes with the engineer there. At max power there was a distinct blurry spot at 5 O'clock in the FOV. We played with eye piece focus, parallax, and checked at different ranges of the turret travels. Hoping it was the fact that it was a demo model but it wasn't confidence inspiring. Eyebox was acceptable, I won't comment on glass because it's so hard to judge in a show room indoors. Hoping it's a great scope and they figure out some realistic reticle choices!

The Optika6 at SHOT were prototypes.

 

[Soulezoo]

Having a pair of Meopta binoculars, I have no question that the glass will be superb. I am watching to see how the rest of the mechanicals turn out. I see a meostar scope in my future.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

Having a pair of Meopta binoculars, I have no question that the glass will be superb. I am watching to see how the rest of the mechanicals turn out. I see a meostar scope in my future.

FYI, we have the Meopta Meostar Riflerscopes on sale:

1.7-10x42 in choice of reticle for $1,049.99

2-12x50 in choice of reticle for $1,099.99

2.5-15x56 in choice of reticle for $1,199.99

 

[beretta_man11]

the catalog lists the 2.5-15x44 as 22.5 oz and the 4.5-27x56 as 25.8 oz. This would put the 3-18x50 at around 24 oz. Once I get a definite answer I will pass the info along.

Parallax is 25 yards

Doug- the website is showing about a 5-6oz increase

 

[gr8fuldoug]

Once these scopes are actually built and available I'll have one put on a scale and know actual weight

 

[wapiti16b]

Impatiently waiting, that's just my nature!, I need one of these for a hunting rifle. I may go to a Zeiss pretty soon!