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Oh God. This....wait whut?

I dont know after the last couple days there has been a different vibe to you.

You still suck, not less, just not more.

Perhaps you have bent the curve.
I hate these people as much as you do. I swear. I lived around them for a long time, just like you do, so don't think I don't know who they are.

Maybe I just have a little extra hatred in my heart for our side too, but on good advice, I am trying to let that go, or at least temper it to make it more useful.
 
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I hate these people as much as you do. I swear. I lived around them for a long time, just like you do, so don't think I don't know who they are.

Maybe I just have a little extra hatred in my heart for our side too, but on good advice, I am trying to let that go, or at least temper it to make it more useful.


Calls to mind "tigers....stripes....."
 
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Calls to mind "tigers....stripes....."
I didn't say my opinions would change. I said I would try not to be a dick to people with whom am in 90% agreement. There are too many true cunts in this world, and I will try to save my special sauce for them.

Honestly, I think I am used to a much more free wheeling environment where spicy dissent is the norm. This isn't the case here, and I'd rather not push hard in that direction if it isn't fun for others.
 
MTG Did Not Compare Masks to the Holocaust -- Dems, MSM, and RINOS Are Twisting Her Words (like they used to do with Trump)

posted 1 hour ago by RosettaStone +146 / -1

Like the earlier attacks on Trump, this attack on Marjorie Taylor Greene depends on leaving out the context, and hoping people will not actually watch her interview.
The context was an interview, and the interviewer had just said this:
Congresswoman, I've got to play you this [...] this is Nancy Pelosi today, literally talking about this idea of segregating -- segregation -- like, literally putting unvaccinated House members in a different area.
Then he played a clip of Nancy Pelosi saying:
You have to wait for them to be vaccinated, because the are selfishly a dangerment [sic] to other people, including staff people here. So, while we are hopeful -- and I join the President in being hopeful -- that we can reach a place where it is safe for people to be... What is this, the honor system? The honor system?! As to whether somebody's been vaccinated? Do you want them breathing in your face, on the strength of their honor?!
[It's no surprise that Pelosi does not believe in honor.]
To which the interviewer said to MTG, "This is out of control, Congresswoman..."
And here is what Marjorie Taylor Greene actually said in response:
This woman is mentally ill. You know, we can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star, and they were definitely treated like second class citizens, so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany. And this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about.
So, MTG was not comparing masks to the Holocaust. She was comparing being forced to wear masks, with being forced to wear gold stars.
And she is talking about the dangers of demonizing groups of people.
It could be better worded, but she is clearly not equating wearing a mask to genocide.
But she is saying, correctly, that this is how it starts -- that singling out, humiliating, and demonizing one group of people will eventually lead to terrible things, such as, in the case of the Jews, the Holocaust. We could also look at the examples of Pol Pot, or Stalin and the Ukraine Famine.
The full interview is here:
https://rumble.com/vhd9ut-rep.-gree...ask-mandate-enforcement-this-woman-is-me.html
The interview starts at 3:52. MTG's above remark is at 6:20.
One final note: The most ludicrous smear being leveled against MTG is that her remarks were antisemitic. That requires insanely twisted logic, since her remark is dependent on the idea that being force to wear stars, and the Holocaust, are bad things.
In fact, later in the interview (at 9:52), MTG derides AOC for supporting HAMAS, who have been carrying out terrorist attacks on Israel.
 
MTG Did Not Compare Masks to the Holocaust -- Dems, MSM, and RINOS Are Twisting Her Words (like they used to do with Trump)

posted 1 hour ago by RosettaStone +146 / -1

Like the earlier attacks on Trump, this attack on Marjorie Taylor Greene depends on leaving out the context, and hoping people will not actually watch her interview.
The context was an interview, and the interviewer had just said this:

Then he played a clip of Nancy Pelosi saying:

[It's no surprise that Pelosi does not believe in honor.]
To which the interviewer said to MTG, "This is out of control, Congresswoman..."
And here is what Marjorie Taylor Greene actually said in response:

So, MTG was not comparing masks to the Holocaust. She was comparing being forced to wear masks, with being forced to wear gold stars.
And she is talking about the dangers of demonizing groups of people.
It could be better worded, but she is clearly not equating wearing a mask to genocide.
But she is saying, correctly, that this is how it starts -- that singling out, humiliating, and demonizing one group of people will eventually lead to terrible things, such as, in the case of the Jews, the Holocaust. We could also look at the examples of Pol Pot, or Stalin and the Ukraine Famine.
The full interview is here:
https://rumble.com/vhd9ut-rep.-gree...ask-mandate-enforcement-this-woman-is-me.html
The interview starts at 3:52. MTG's above remark is at 6:20.
One final note: The most ludicrous smear being leveled against MTG is that her remarks were antisemitic. That requires insanely twisted logic, since her remark is dependent on the idea that being force to wear stars, and the Holocaust, are bad things.
In fact, later in the interview (at 9:52), MTG derides AOC for supporting HAMAS, who have been carrying out terrorist attacks on Israel.
That isn't as bad as it sounded from spliced clips. I was wrong from that point of view. To be clear, I don't think she said anything anti-semitic. I think she spoke in a way that was anti-strategic, as I outlined above, which is why I also think it was stupid of McCarthy to continue the mess.
 
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That isn't as bad as it sounded from spliced clips. I was wrong from that point of view. To be clear, I don't think she said anything anti-semitic. I think she spoke in a way that was anti-strategic, as I outlined above, which is why I also think it was stupid of McCarthy to continue the mess.
my family was rounded up and put into camps, and that was just one generation before me.
my uncles (that were old enough) left the camps to fight in europe for the country that put their family into camps.
 
my family was rounded up and put into camps, and that was just one generation before me.
my uncles that were old enough left the camps to fight in europe for the country that put their family into camps.
That was probably the most shameful event in the history of the United States. Though I fear we are going to try to out do ourselves.
 
That was probably the most shameful event in the history of the United States. Though I fear we are going to try to out do ourselves.
perhaps why i don't call shit conspiracy theories because it's hard to believe that many "decent people" would participate or go along with it.
 
I hate these people as much as you do. I swear. I lived around them for a long time, just like you do, so don't think I don't know who they are.

Maybe I just have a little extra hatred in my heart for our side too, but on good advice, I am trying to let that go, or at least temper it to make it more useful.
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Credit to @Bender 😆
 
I didn't say my opinions would change. I said I would try not to be a dick to people with whom am in 90% agreement. There are too many true cunts in this world, and I will try to save my special sauce for them.

Honestly, I think I am used to a much more free wheeling environment where spicy dissent is the norm. This isn't the case here, and I'd rather not push hard in that direction if it isn't fun for others.
WTF? Fun? Good grief. History is repeating itself in front of your face and you been playing games, thinking it's a FUCKING joke?
You had best remove the rose colored glasses and look around with a sober mind. Do you think $30 trillion is funny? Especially since they are pressing for another $6 trillion? Stores and bare of staple supplies, groups of misfits are being put on a pedestal, patriots are now domestic terrorists and the list goes on. You think that is comedy material to those here? Many of which signed up to go to the ultimate level if necessary?
And you wonder why people give you shit?
 
Oh God. This....wait whut?

I dont know after the last couple days there has been a different vibe to you.

You still suck, not less, just not more.

Perhaps you have bent the curve.
He is at the peak of Mt Stupid on the Dunning Kruger effect. He has a glimpse that maybe he isn’t as smart as he thinks he is.
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WTF? Fun? Good grief. History is repeating itself in front of your face and you been playing games, thinking it's a FUCKING joke?
You had best remove the rose colored glasses and look around with a sober mind. Do you think $30 trillion is funny? Especially since they are pressing for another $6 trillion? Stores and bare of staple supplies, groups of misfits are being put on a pedestal, patriots are now domestic terrorists and the list goes on. You think that is comedy material to those here? Many of which signed up to go to the ultimate level if necessary?
And you wonder why people give you shit?

Honestly, I have been dealing with and debating serious shit, particularly serious financial shit, for my entire life, and while it has always had serious consequences, the culture has always been significantly more jocular and open to lively dissent than is the culture in this forum. My belief is that this is a necessary relief valve or people start jumping out of windows. Talking dealing with billions, not trillions, but the concept isn't different. I get that is not the culture here. I actually think that is a shame, and it would be helpful if it were, but I honestly don't really want to piss off people, as I have said, with whom I mainly agree.

He is at the peak of Mt Stupid on the Dunning Kruger effect. He has a glimpse that maybe he isn’t as smart as he thinks he is.
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Negative. This has nothing to do with belief, it simply has to do with culture. I'll still explain to you guys where I think you are absolutely mistaken, I just won't bother doing it in a way that is meant to be funny, slightly mean or whatever.
 
Mental midgets. You know who jumps out of the tenth floor window because his portfolio took a dive? Fuckstick money changers!
Honestly, I have been dealing with and debating serious shit, particularly serious financial shit, for my entire life, and while it has always had serious consequences, the culture has always been significantly more jocular and open to lively dissent than is the culture in this forum. My belief is that this is a necessary relief valve or people start jumping out of windows. Talking dealing with billions, not trillions, but the concept isn't different. I get that is not the culture here. I actually think that is a shame, and it would be helpful if it were, but I honestly don't really want to piss off people, as I have said, with whom I mainly agree.


Negative. This has nothing to do with belief, it simply has to do with culture. I'll still explain to you guys where I think you are absolutely mistaken, I just won't bother doing it in a way that is meant to be funny, slightly mean or whatever.
Serious consequences? Muh beach house, muh standing in society, muh fancy car? Muh trophy wife will be shamed? Fucking please!!.
Yeah, that's some stoopid shit and shallow as all fuck. Not even on the same level as fucking up the electoral process, the corruption in the alphabet, a FUCKING coup in the USA!!!
Damn boy! SMDH. You'd better wake up. Cuz your money ain't going to worth TP.
 
I didn't say my opinions would change. I said I would try not to be a dick to people with whom am in 90% agreement. There are too many true cunts in this world, and I will try to save my special sauce for them.

Honestly, I think I am used to a much more free wheeling environment where spicy dissent is the norm. This isn't the case here, and I'd rather not push hard in that direction if it isn't fun for others.

Oh God. This fuck stain again.

Spicy dissent based on reality is fine.

We are headed down such a dangerous path though that blind denial is unacceptable.

The only response is "No this is wrong!"

I wasnt going to answer this but than I read @theLBC post just below.

He, like you, has a family heritage (I have deduced, could be wrong, its happened before), that felt the burden of what is in the late early stages of being psychologically prepared.

He, unlike you, is aware of the danger and willing to call it out.
 
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That isn't as bad as it sounded from spliced clips. I was wrong from that point of view. To be clear, I don't think she said anything anti-semitic. I think she spoke in a way that was anti-strategic, as I outlined above, which is why I also think it was stupid of McCarthy to continue the mess.

Oh God. This fuckstain again.

This stuff is so dangerous, much more dangerous, than her "inelegant" language.

This is so vile what is being proposed it needs to be confronted with strong, confrontational, language if not physical action.

Wifes co-worker, his position is close to peer but still subordinate, he is asking about her vax status. Why she isnt going to get vaxxed?.......this is where we are. When has it been okay to ask co-workers, let alone your boss, about medical shit and than pressure them?

Its no longer about health care.
 
my family was rounded up and put into camps, and that was just one generation before me.
my uncles (that were old enough) left the camps to fight in europe for the country that put their family into camps.


I thought you had mentioned this history previously.

What happened to your family was wrong and I note that it is the same political party by name currently looking to "camp" people.

I understand the concern, especially in light of the Ni'iahu Incident which the public knew nothing about.


but it was wrong. The idea of "individual responsibility" was abandoned for "collective guilt". Than add in the racism and you end up with German POWs being given more freedom in Texas than Interred American Citizens in California.

So many errors in the American fabric could have been avoided if the Constitution had been followed to the letter.

This Country always goes off track and has its darkest times when that document is abused.


Campy stupid Hollywood side note - was watching Karate Kid a few weeks ago during dinner with the fams. Must of never paid attention to it but in the scene where Miyagi hits the whiskey a bit too hard its revealed he is a WWII vet, I assumed 442 RCT, that was awarded the CMOH and had lost his wife and child while he was overseas fighting and she was interred in Manzanar.

I liked the reference but realized lots of guys in the 442 should have been honored with the CMOH but they would have been lucky to get a Silver Star due to the fact the powers that be were not going to honor those men in that way with that mindset.

We are lucky that we live in a Country that grows and aspires to meet the perfection of our Constitution.

We need to get better at following the Constitution, not fundamentally changed.
 
Arrest Trump and put him on trial? Oh yeah that will end well.

Timing is everything. Suddenly Election audits are getting a bit more main stream.

Deepstate: We need a big distraction.

Treasonous bitches: Que the Grand Jury.

Choid: Trump hurt my feelings and I despise him. Trump has it coming.

Patriots: The volcano rumbles as the pressure builds.

Biden and Congress: Quick get the Military woke we may need to kill Americans.

Military: At your service Queen Nancy.
 
That was probably the most shameful event in the history of the United States. Though I fear we are going to try to out do ourselves.


Oh God. This fuckstain is looking like he gets it.
 
perhaps why i don't call shit conspiracy theories because it's hard to believe that many "decent people" would participate or go along with it.


The psychological conditioning of a media complicit with evil is more dangerous than a 249B with an infinity belt of ammo.
 
Mental midgets. You know who jumps out of the tenth floor window because his portfolio took a dive? Fuckstick money changers!

Serious consequences? Muh beach house, muh standing in society, muh fancy car? Muh trophy wife will be shamed? Fucking please!!.
Yeah, that's some stoopid shit and shallow as all fuck. Not even on the same level as fucking up the electoral process, the corruption in the alphabet, a FUCKING coup in the USA!!!
Damn boy! SMDH. You'd better wake up. Cuz your money ain't going to worth TP.
I mean hundreds of other peoples life savings and livelihoods, not mine. I actually think there is a more than clear parallel, in speaking of the inflation/financial part of this equation in when having spent decades dealing with whether the money that somebody earned in their career is actually going to be available to them, or worth anything, when they need it. When their kids go to college, or when they need to care for themselves in their old age.

I can tell you one thing, and that is that conservatives getting poorer because they misread the financial situation is not going to hurt Biden or Democrats one bit.
 
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Isn't it strange that he starts coming around AFTER he's accused of being a FED?

I'm just saying........


Talked to a guy yesterday that was upset with the police.

He is a PI and the owner of the property he was on called the local police to investigate why this guy was on their property.

Apparently he was investigating someone on an adjacent property and hadnt told the locals he was working in the area nor would give info on what he was doing.

The local PO went and told who he thought was the "investigated" that he was being investigated.

PI was upset about PO doing that to him.

My comment to him was "Hey you should have done a better job with the "under cover" part of your surveillance.
 
Oh God. This fuckstain again.

This stuff is so dangerous, much more dangerous, than her "inelegant" language.

This is so vile what is being proposed it needs to be confronted with strong, confrontational, language if not physical action.

Wifes co-worker, his position is close to peer but still subordinate, he is asking about her vax status. Why she isnt going to get vaxxed?.......this is where we are. When has it been okay to ask co-workers, let alone your boss, about medical shit and than pressure them?

Its no longer about health care.
So, I don't agree with the premise that we are inextricably headed toward anything that looks like what you foresee, and while I think it is out of line to ask other people their health status, unless it is in conversation with somebody with whom you are friendly, I don't think it requires more than a "I'm uncomfortable discussing it."

On a bigger scale, the question of strategic communication is incredibly important. As I have said before, deciding that it is not, and deciding that it is a good idea to be always confrontational in language while turning off segments of possible support is to decide that the traditional political process CAN no longer work, thus to decide, or all intents and purposes, that violent struggle is the only option on the table. I think that is a grave mistake, and one no group can afford to make.
 
Isn't it strange that he starts coming around AFTER he's accused of being a FED?

I'm just saying........

He's one of those discount USPS spies. We are good at spying like we are good at delivering the mail. :ROFLMAO:
 
I mean hundreds of other peoples life savings and livelihoods, not mine. I actually think there is a more than clear parallel, in speaking of the inflation/financial part of this equation in when having spent decades dealing with whether the money that somebody earned in their career is actually going to be available to them, or worth anything, when they need it. When their kids go to college, or when they need to care for themselves in their old age.

I can tell you one thing, and that is that conservatives getting poorer because they misread the financial situation is not going to hurt Biden or Democrats one bit.
Ok, please elaborate on the last part of your statement. How are conservatives misreading financial data?
 
So, I don't agree with the premise that we are inextricably headed toward anything that looks like what you foresee, and while I think it is out of line to ask other people their health status, unless it is in conversation with somebody with whom you are friendly, I don't think it requires more than a "I'm uncomfortable discussing it."

On a bigger scale, the question of strategic communication is incredibly important. As I have said before, deciding that it is not, and deciding that it is a good idea to be always confrontational in language while turning off segments of possible support is to decide that the traditional political process CAN no longer work, thus to decide, or all intents and purposes, that violent struggle is the only option on the table. I think that is a grave mistake, and one no group can afford to make.

Oh God. This fuckstain again.

Nothing is inextricable except that this is absolutely true....

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke


"Im uncomfortable discussing it." should be "Why dont you mind your own fucking business and fuck off about the stupid less than 1% fatality virus if you are protected by having had the vaccine.....now get to fucking work before we get someone capable of critical thinking to do your job."

The reason we are where we are is because we have suffered fools kindly and in order to maintain peace let them have their say.

They should have been put in their place 50 years ago.

Now we have reached a point where the 1619 Project is being taught in schools and real history is being hidden.

Expect that the 1775 Earl of Dumore/Governor of Virgina will soon be a commonplace name replacing Washington and Jefferson.

The communists have control of the traditional communication networks....They are destroying truth with their lying propaganda megaphone.

We need to up our volume and communicate in terms that fit the the danger of the course we are on.
 
Ok, please elaborate on the last part of your statement. How are conservatives misreading financial data?
I'm not 100% sure we are. But basically, I think markets have significant risk right now, which is a pretty common belief. Relatively uncontroversial. However, I think those risks are much more balanced than those who expect runaway inflation. This may get a little wordy, but you have to look at a number of current drivers.

First, is the obvious monetary inflation that we have seen. Worst case scenario is pretty well played out and understood in this thread and others. Realistically, we are seeing a less strong connection between fiscal policy and inflation, medium long term, than people had expected. This is both in purposeful fiscal inflation, which is what stimulus is, and non purposeful fiscal damage, which is basically just irresponsible/excess spending. But certainly there are worries on the inflation front.

Second, look at policy with regard to employment. I think it is fair to say that current Biden policy is negative for employment. I'm not going to comment on whether it is stupidity or whether it is intentional, but it is clear that there are significant disincentives to work. Today I am reading about a push for more checks to go out, so clearly they are doubling down on this. Now, low employment is obviously somewhat deflationary, as benefit checks never reach the level of actual wages. It is probably not highly deflationary, but it is hard on the economy. Some might argue that there will be fewer goods available without workers, but this is greatly mitigated with re-offshoring, which is quite viable, again from a new policy perspective. And again, offshoring is deflationary.

Third, look at policy tools available to the federal reserve. There are literally all the tools in the world available to fight inflation. What I mean by that is the looser the fed is in relation to standard practices, the easier it is for them to move in the other direction. They have literally no tools left to become more expansionary than they are now. Those are just facts. Some will argue that these people want inflation, or they want to ruin the world as we know it. I neither believe that nor am putting that in my analysis. If that is their goal, no other analysis really matters.

Fourth is whether there is true pricing power in the market for inflation to take place. I think the jury is still very much out on this one. Pricing power tends to exist in pockets, not economy wide.

So, looking at all of the factors, and frankly these are not all of the factors, you really have many forces working in opposition, which is why I think the risks are high, but balanced. I'd say "hyper inflation" probably has a risk of 2%. I'd say moderate inflation with low growth, not quite stagflation, but a generally shitty economy, has about a 30% chance. Real stagflation is probably 15-20%. Serious asset damage with a contraction enough to be deflationary is probably another 15%, and we make it through this relatively unscathed with random dislocations is probably 30%. Not sure if that adds to a hundred.

I guess, in conclusion, I think there are a good number of risks, but the most likely outcome is definitely a meh to ok economy. Of course, in normal times the chances of an ok economy are very high, so this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. But even if, by some measures, high inflation looks like the scariest prospect, it is also the scenario for which we retain the greatest number of policy tools. The nightmare scenario, I believe, is large asset contraction for which we have no remaining policy tools, and which would leave every other part of the economy in significant peril, while also living in a world where we now basically realize that fiscal policy is impotent to stabilize in these situations.

I hope that makes some sense. I am not saying I am right, that is just my analysis. It is definitely not my way, as people might be able to tell, to decide that there is one obvious thing ahead and latch onto that. I don't have that level of certainty in anything.
 
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Oh God. This fuckstain again.

Nothing is inextricable except that this is absolutely true....

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke


"Im uncomfortable discussing it." should be "Why dont you mind your own fucking business and fuck off about the stupid less than 1% fatality virus if you are protected by having had the vaccine.....now get to fucking work before we get someone capable of critical thinking to do your job."

The reason we are where we are is because we have suffered fools kindly and in order to maintain peace let them have their say.

They should have been put in their place 50 years ago.

Now we have reached a point where the 1619 Project is being taught in schools and real history is being hidden.

Expect that the 1775 Earl of Dumore/Governor of Virgina will soon be a commonplace name replacing Washington and Jefferson.

The communists have control of the traditional communication networks....They are destroying truth with their lying propaganda megaphone.

We need to up our volume and communicate in terms that fit the the danger of the course we are on.
Again, and respectfully, I do not agree with your overall analysis of the narrative, nor with your prescription for the cure.
 
Again, and respectfully, I do not agree with your overall analysis of the narrative, nor with your prescription for the cure.


Oh God. This fuckstain again.

I respect your opinion.

but...

based on your immediate previous post expressing the policies of the coup regime are unknown to be intentional indicates to me that you suffer some sort of critical thinking block that prevents you from seeing reality.

I think it is because you have "Hope".

"Hope" is a great thing unless you hold onto it too long and it clouds your ability to see truth.

Im guilty.

I had "Hope" the 2020 election would be legitimate.

I abandoned that and embraced "Hope" that the fraud would be exposed.

As time passes I am abandoning that and now I have "Hope" that we avoid violence....

If I have to abandon that than its imperative to forget about "Hope" otherwise you will not be able to function in the midst of the shit that follows. Someone without "Hope" is sad state but they are very effective in fighting what made them that way.
 
If I have to abandon that than its imperative to forget about "Hope" otherwise you will not be able to function in the midst of the shit that follows. Someone without "Hope" is sad state but they are very effective in fighting what made them that way.

I would suggest you stop delaying the inevitable, and just get rid of that "Hope" stuff for good.
Get ready to live in the Communist Dystopia that is coming and imagine the worst case scenarios and plan for them since that's probably what we'll get.
You might have to be secretly breeding rats for food but at least you'll be the one still alive when others are dead of starvation.
(Story from an escapee from NK who spent time in the camps)
 
Oh God. This fuckstain again.

I respect your opinion.

but...

based on your immediate previous post expressing the policies of the coup regime are unknown to be intentional indicates to me that you suffer some sort of critical thinking block that prevents you from seeing reality.

I think it is because you have "Hope".

"Hope" is a great thing unless you hold onto it too long and it clouds your ability to see truth.

Im guilty.

I had "Hope" the 2020 election would be legitimate.

I abandoned that and embraced "Hope" that the fraud would be exposed.

As time passes I am abandoning that and now I have "Hope" that we avoid violence....

If I have to abandon that than its imperative to forget about "Hope" otherwise you will not be able to function in the midst of the shit that follows. Someone without "Hope" is sad state but they are very effective in fighting what made them that way.
Look, you cannot expect everybody to analyze a situation the same way, and just because you are sure in your analysis does not mean they are right. As I said, I am not going to get in pissing matches on here, because that kind of dissent is not, apparently, the culture. I, simply put, think you are wrong.

That doesn't mean I think there is anything kosher about the NY AG convening a grand jury. No more than I thought there was anything kosher about calls for martial law before inauguration etc. But while many slopes are slippery, not every incident is evidence of the slippery slope you are seeing.

And no, I don't rely on "Hope." I'd prefer, once again, you not assume that my beliefs correspond to something you hold in your warchest of negative bromides. My beliefs rest on my analysis of likely outcomes. I'd say the likelihood of your scenario being correct is less than 3%. That is much, much higher than in normal times, but that does not make it a likely outcome simply.

Perhaps the difference is that I don't see the world as a few clear "truths" but situations and likelihoods. I've never been so fortunate as to live in a world where I could afford to assume one truth and one reality.

Again, I write this with respect, not malevolence.
 
I would suggest you stop delaying the inevitable, and just get rid of that "Hope" stuff for good.
Get ready to live in the Communist Dystopia that is coming and imagine the worst case scenarios and plan for them since that's probably what we'll get.
You might have to be secretly breeding rats for food but at least you'll be the one still alive when others are dead of starvation.
(Story from an escapee from NK who spent time in the camps)


This guy lived it too.....

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”​


― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956


I dont want to find out if I am tough enough to actually live the the tough talk I type.

I 100% believe in what I write though because time after time history has recorded the end result.

Just once I would like to see a people come to the edge of the abyss and turn back.

If any people have that ability its Americans.

They just have to embrace the Constitution and the idea of the individual right to freedom.
 
Look, you cannot expect everybody to analyze a situation the same way, and just because you are sure in your analysis does not mean they are right. As I said, I am not going to get in pissing matches on here, because that kind of dissent is not, apparently, the culture. I, simply put, think you are wrong.

That doesn't mean I think there is anything kosher about the NY AG convening a grand jury. No more than I thought there was anything kosher about calls for martial law before inauguration etc. But while many slopes are slippery, not every incident is evidence of the slippery slope you are seeing.

And no, I don't rely on "Hope." I'd prefer, once again, you not assume that my beliefs correspond to something you hold in your warchest of negative bromides. My beliefs rest on my analysis of likely outcomes. I'd say the likelihood of your scenario being correct is less than 3%. That is much, much higher than in normal times, but that does not make it a likely outcome simply.

Perhaps the difference is that I don't see the world as a few clear "truths" but situations and likelihoods. I've never been so fortunate as to live in a world where I could afford to assume one truth and one reality.

Again, I write this with respect, not malevolence.

Oh God. This respectful fuckstain again.

I acknowledge your respect.

In 1988 my 100% analysis would have been there is no fucking way that in 32 years the USA would have more in common with my than present experience living in the USSR...........yet here we are - informants, govt spying, govt media propaganda, our own KGB, bullshit elections, shortages of basic goods.......

No respect and all my malevolence to those that made it this way.

They have destroyed my kids future opportunity I fear.
 
Just once I would like to see a people come to the edge of the abyss and turn back.

If any people have that ability its Americans.

They just have to embrace the Constitution and the idea of the individual right to freedom.

History says that humans will repeat history.

I don't think there is any hope for America to avoid the next turn of the wheel of time.

We are far past the tipping point, more people get "free" stuff from the government than are enslaved to provide the "free" stuff to others.
The youth by and large are fully indoctrinated with the new Communist ideals.
The Communists and their fellow travelers control most of the federal government power centers, much of the police, almost all of the primary communications and "news" propaganda distribution networks and have an iron grip on the educational indoctrination system that most youth are forced to spend 12 to 16+ years attending every day.

What we are in right now is the time before the sun sets, and it's time to prepare for the long hard night, so that you can survive until the sun rises again (if there is enough good people left to move the wheel of time forward, and that's a good question?)
 
It’s dire Choid. Open your eyes and spread the word.
I understand you feel that way. If I believed the same things you do about Covid, vaccinations, the election, etc, I am sure I would feel that it was just as dire. The issue is that I don't agree on a lot of the inputs, so obviously the final analysis will also be different. I do believe that we are at a greater risk for this stuff now than at any point in my lifetime, and that is certainly worth being angry about and discussing, but I still see it as a very low percentage possibility, though higher than normal.

I think it is perfectly reasonable, after watching society let its cities burn last year, for people to come up with out of the norm explanations for why things are happening, but I do not believe that this justifies many of the beliefs strongly held in here.
 
@pmclaine, I see a greater sense of urgency in your words as of late and I am glad to see it. I hope you have these conversations in person with all you can.

The government leaders at all levels have abandoned the ideal of individual rights. Many did it with malicious intent while others are guilty due to ignorance. The police are more than willing to obey those that sign their paychecks while forgetting where the money comes from.

My small town had mask mandates for businesses for a while that were punishable by $1000 fines and up to death if you resisted just like all police encounters, and the police were willing to harass people for it. I was the only man that fought this violation out in the open. I could only get support when nobody was looking. My last stage of hope has run out. This isn’t the same as giving up as you described in an earlier post.
 
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We are well down the path of no return, in my humble opinion.

I fear for my grandchildren more than for myself. I still shake my head in disbelief of what has happened in the last 18 months particularly, but it has been going on , evidently, for YEARS. Even as more and more evidence of vote tampering and fraud is exposed.... nothing happens. The military doesn't step in, the puppet masters are in the background still pulling the strings, EO's continue to have signatures even though the person signing them has zero clue what they are, and Congress goes about their merry way padding their pockets with our tax dollars, and our RIGHTS continue to be taken away.

It is amazing and sad how there are lemmings...sheep..... particularly on this site that fail to see the truth regardless of the multitude of facts and data presented. They fail to see the light of day/ reality because they choose not to! Glass houses.

As others, I choose to hold out hope that good will prevail over evil. If things go really south.... I will deal with them on my terms.