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Mandatory vaccines and testing for businesses

What will the solution be when they leverage the financial institutions, banks ,
against the non-vaxxed?
They've already done this against the gun businesses.

R
I've been saying it for years, maybe decades now and it rings truer each day. The fucking Amish have this shit figured out. None of this BS affects them and they always make it work.
 
What will the solution be when they leverage the financial institutions, banks ,
against the non-vaxxed?
They've already done this against the gun businesses.

R

Okay,
Just playing devils advocate here but if they are willing to go that far then why would they not shut down a business for not having 100% vaccination participation. They may also start refusing new business licenses (or revoke a current license) based on vaccination status.

There is nothing easy and simple about this mandate because if this mandate is upheld (assuming future lawsuit/ SCOTUS ruling) then there is no stopping the level of intrusion. They will suffocate the unvaccinated to the point where people will have to choose between eating/living and compliance.
 
Okay,
Just playing devils advocate here but if they are willing to go that far then why would they not shut down a business for not having 100% vaccination participation. They may also start refusing new business licenses (or revoke a current license) based on vaccination status.

There is nothing easy and simple about this mandate because if this mandate is upheld (assuming future lawsuit/ SCOTUS ruling) then there is no stopping the level of intrusion. They will suffocate the unvaccinated to the point where people will have to choose between eating/living and compliance.
You say this as if this wouldn't be their goal.
They aren't interested in partial compliance.

R
 

$14,000 fines

Can we just start now
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You say this as if this wouldn't be their goal.
They aren't interested in partial compliance.

R

You are correct but I care what happens legally. If they violate a SCOTUS ruling then the support for our side will increase ten fold.

Strength in numbers.
 
They've had a few good rulings as of late so hopefully the trend continues.
I worked with an old guy who spent a lot of time betting on the horse races.. It was in his blood. He would explain all the in's and out's as I was welding... When I finally asked him about how many of his bets were winning best... He told me this.. "Son, if I could bet right 51% of the time I would be a millionaire".... The SCOTUS has had a few good rulings.... Even if they rule in the favor of "We The People" 49% of the time... We are still losing.
 
I worked with an old guy who spent a lot of time betting on the horse races.. It was in his blood. He would explain all the in's and out's as I was welding... When I finally asked him about how many of his bets were winning best... He told me this.. "Son, if I could bet right 51% of the time I would be a millionaire".... The SCOTUS has had a few good rulings.... Even if they rule in the favor of "We The People" 49% of the time... We are still losing.

I understand what you're saying but I am holding out hope, however misplaced that may be.
 
There is a simple solution for those that can't figure out the work-around to this situation. Here it is. Go open your own businesses and none of this BS will apply to you. None of this probably applies to businesses with less than 100 employees. None of this certainly applies to business with 35 or fewer employees.. You SAY you like Capitalism? Then go be a capitalist, not an employee (aka slave) to whatever corporate or governmental tit you are currently sucking on. and which you are so scared to let go of for fear you'll lose your shifty little pittance of a salary. Be a man, take full ownership of your life, quit selling your days for a handful of dimes. Don't take orders from your master, give orders. Determine your own destiny. This is still America. It still f***ing works. You'll sleep more soundly. Or stay a slave and STFU and take your beating with a smile and a bowed head. If you don't like the current issues, grow a pair and work for yourself. Small business is by far the main economic growth driver in this Country, get on board.
do you realize how many small businesses have closed since the wuflu?
i mean i am not arguing your point about # of employees, but do you think that makes you immune from .gov closing you down?
 
i am guessing all those doctors and nurses didn't know and weren't told?


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personally, i am not taking the clotshot, which turns your body into a spike protein factory without even seeing the real virus.
if you are exposed to covid, your body has the machinery in place to create the proteins needed by the virus, hence larger viral loads in vaccinated and probably higher transmission rates, regardless if they get sick or not.

if the delta variat is too different for the vax, that means your body is too busy making useless crap that doesn't work.

if you have time...it isn't that long.


i work for a healthcare company that employs over 2500 people.
I will definitely pass this info on to my family medical practitioners. Thank you.
 
I will definitely pass this info on to my family medical practitioners. Thank you.
i really appreciate that.
the company i work for operates in 42 states, and the difference in morbidity from covid is startling when you compare the outcomes from modalities that recommend supplements and possible therapeutics, versus ones that tell covid positive patients to go home until they can't breath, and offer no other treatment options.
 
The question was literally that stupid to deserve my response.

Go troll elsewhere libtard
 
If you could provide a reason on why I should get it after having already had covid (Natural immunity), symptoms were mild (no hospital), it doesn't stop contraction nor transmission of the virus.....sooooo why should I get the vaccine?
Well, it is possible to contract COVID a second time. Symptoms could be worse and the virus can be passed on to someone elsewill who has not been vaccinated. Additionally, it hasn't been determined how long your natural immunity to COVID-19 last. The best way to ensure you're protected is to get the vaccine. Hopefully, this will shed some light on its importance.
 
Wait, what? No facefuck during working hours? No Hide during work? Oh and I bet you're gonna want me to sweat and get dirty too!?
Well said, I’m a Builder and we are begging for help. We can’t find help to save are ass. But if someone wants to leave a bigger business to escape the mandate believe me there are a lot of people like myself that are eager to hire good help. My only requirement is that you give me a fair days work for a fair days pay. No HR drama, no work politics just get shit done and get paid. People have options, and right now there are plenty to pick from in the small business community!
I have run my own business since 94 and the labor part became such a PITA that after 2008 I went to all subcontractor help. Pay them by the job and give them a deadline.
People don't want to work and give you an honest days work. They just want a check. Those that do mostly work for themselves
 
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So, let me give you a little homework… Go research all those vaccinations you are referring to, when they were discovered, when the vaccine was available, and how long afterwards the FDA gave approval for those vaccines.

You say we’re light years ahead in research, yet look at all the things that are out there, that there isn’t a cure for…. And as has been shown, the vaccine is not a “cure” for COVID, just a treatment, also with no long lasting side effects determined as all of it is new.

Also, if someone has already had a Covid, their antibodies are way higher than the shot…. Why the need for the shot then??
 
In the trades? Not many if any at all. If you have a skill other than waiting tables and want to work. Ohh yeah, I forgot. The government is paying people to sit home and Facebook and Twitter.
do you realize how many small businesses have closed since the wuflu?
i mean i am not arguing your point about # of employees, but do you think that makes you immune from .gov closing you down?
Seriously, if you want to work, and I mean really work. From 8 to 5 and no fucking off. Opportunity is there. The only thing holding you back is fear of the unknown.
Yeah the government alphabet has regulated the shit out of business but until you jump.... The only person holding you back is in the mirror.
 
First of all, vaccines are NOT, and have never been, promoted as cures. No one said they were. Second, vaccines are developed to help your body's immune system fight off the disease much easier. You are correct, no one knows the long term effects of the COVID vaccine, but neither did science know the long term effects of past vaccines. Remember also that just because you had COVID, doesn't mean you can't get it again with more severe symptoms. The vaccine ensures your immune system is able to fight it off. Hope this helps.
 
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Well, it is possible to contract COVID a second time. Symptoms could be worse and the virus can be passed on to someone elsewill who has not been vaccinated. Additionally, it hasn't been determined how long your natural immunity to COVID-19 last. The best way to ensure you're protected is to get the vaccine. Hopefully, this will shed some light on its importance.
Coulda woulda maybe possibly? You do know that everything you wrote about natural immunity is the same thing for the shot? Don't you?
Israel... Look what is going on there. Why do they already have a booster shot after 8 months? When did they know that you were going to need a booster shot? How long does it take to develop a test that booster shot? FDA approval for the booster?
You see the time period for all that just doesn't work out. Especially for something they claim has 95% efficacy.

Man has survived for a very long time without big pharma. Hmmm, I wonder why they are called big pharma?
 
In the trades? Not many if any at all. If you have a skill other than waiting tables and want to work. Ohh yeah, I forgot. The government is paying people to sit home and Facebook and Twitter.

Seriously, if you want to work, and I mean really work. From 8 to 5 and no fucking off. Opportunity is there. The only thing holding you back is fear of the unknown.
Yeah the government alphabet has regulated the shit out of business but until you jump.... The only person holding you back is in the mirror.
no, i meant opening a music store and giving guitar lessons, or any other ways people might be self employed.
 
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"Pink slime" is lean ground beef used to reduce the fat content of ground beef products. Anyone who hasn't unraveled that MSM mystery yet, is probably out of their depth in this conversation. Fast food places use TVP {textured vegetable protein} to stretch their meat, not meat.
hello, would like to clarify. Firstly, the pink slime was a bad example. however the only example I could think about 9 beers in and working on number 10. so as far as your observation of being out of my depth...you were right.

now than, the question posed to me was why should one trust the fda. my response is that one shouldn't. due to known cases of certain food processing or byproducts to make food are known to cause harm to humans. the EU's Europe Medicine Agency have prohibited use of these items in food serve industries in the EU. now this also applies to certain medications as well. the questiion is why is this? shouldnt they be safe to take if the fda "approved" it? why would EMA reject it? My opinion is money. big food industries and big pharma pay more for an "approval".

Respectfully,

Corsairpilot
 
First of all, vaccines are NOT, and have never been, promoted as cures. No one said they were. Second, vaccines are developed to help your body's immune system fight off the disease much easier. You are correct, no one knows the long term effects of the COVID vaccine, but neither did science know the long term effects of past vaccines. Remember also that just because you had COVID, doesn't mean you can't get it again with more severe symptoms. The vaccine ensures your immune system is able to fight it off. Hope this helps.
normal vaccines are typically a dead or attenuated version of the virus itself, and that causes your body to create antibodies that target that virus.

mRNA "vaccines" do no such thing, and rather than tricking the body into naturally creating antibodies that will fight a live version of the virus, they are tricking the body into creating a component of the virus itself.

there is nothing about the mRNA "vaccines" that is the same as the vaccines we have used and trusted for decades.
it is no surprise to me that they don't work like a normal vaccine is supposed to, and that the possible side effects are much greater.
 
There is a simple solution for those that can't figure out the work-around to this situation. Here it is. Go open your own businesses and none of this BS will apply to you. None of this probably applies to businesses with less than 100 employees. None of this certainly applies to business with 35 or fewer employees.. You SAY you like Capitalism? Then go be a capitalist, not an employee (aka slave) to whatever corporate or governmental tit you are currently sucking on. and which you are so scared to let go of for fear you'll lose your shifty little pittance of a salary. Be a man, take full ownership of your life, quit selling your days for a handful of dimes. Don't take orders from your master, give orders. Determine your own destiny. This is still America. It still f***ing works. You'll sleep more soundly. Or stay a slave and STFU and take your beating with a smile and a bowed head. If you don't like the current issues, grow a pair and work for yourself. Small business is by far the main economic growth driver in this Country, get on board.
That's a great idea, but what is everyone going to do when all of our First Responders (who don't have this option) take your advice? Millions of Americans would not have Police, Fire, EMS and Emergency Health Care. What about when all of the critical infrastructure workers (who also don't have this option) do it? No Electric, Sewer, Roadways, Water, etc. What about when our Armed Forces do it (more who don't have the option), who is going to defend this country?
We do not exist as a country without these people, and these people are being left with no option!
Too many people are ignoring what is going on because for whatever reason it doesn't impact them (yet). This is the same mindset that has lead to genocide all over the world throughout the ages.
 
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The proof that the new " vaccine " is loosing effectiveness at an accelerated rate is everywhere on the news.

Thier proposal is well, you'll need more repetitively. That's foolish and we know it. I didn't have to get boosters every six months on real vacines for diseases.

Recovery treatment is what we need to spend our time and money on. But they would loose controll and the fear factor if that happened.

People like pedo joe and fouci would look like dumshits, oops too late bad example.
 
You libtards want a communist state because manditory shots is how it starts.

Chief retard has threatened your jobs, freedom of travel allready and you stupid sheep don't get what comes next.

He is willing to starve you, confine you to get his way and openly admits freedom and choice is none of his concern he is perfectly willing to strip you of it.

What is next your drivers license your bank account shopping?

It is a communist takeover you had better wake the fuck up.

Impeach the fucker.
 
Well, it is possible to contract COVID a second time. Symptoms could be worse and the virus can be passed on to someone elsewill who has not been vaccinated. Additionally, it hasn't been determined how long your natural immunity to COVID-19 last. The best way to ensure you're protected is to get the vaccine. Hopefully, this will shed some light on its importance.

Is this post sarcasm or are you really that ignorant?

If it is the latter, you might want to actually do some research because you lack a fundamental understanding of biology (immune system and virology). If it is sarcasm, disregard.
 
You libtards want a communist state because manditory shots is how it starts.

Chief retard has threatened your jobs, freedom of travel allready and you stupid sheep don't get what comes next.

He is willing to starve you, confine you to get his way and openly admits freedom and choice is none of his concern he is perfectly willing to strip you of it.

What is next your drivers license your bank account shopping?

It is a communist takeover you had better wake the fuck up.

Impeach the fucker.

I agree with everything you said but you don’t actually believe they will impeach him do you?
 
I have seen it since the fake election. I see it clearly.
It is a communist takeover.

I am petitioning my Governor for help with the removal of POTUS from the White House and the office of president by impeachment.

And yes jgsh is that stupid.
 
You are correct, no one knows the long term effects of the COVID vaccine, but neither did science know the long term effects of past vaccines.
Kinda a big ole crock of shit you just served up right there.

There have been extensive testing before releasing vac’s to the public.

This one we don’t even have an idea what happens in a couple of years.

Just how long where the trials conducted under cdc/fda/xyz guidelines before this was released. I can’t remember.
 
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Kinda a big ole crock of shit you just served up right there.

There have been extensive testing before releasing vac’s to the public.

This one we don’t even have an idea what happens in a couple of years.

Just how long where the trials conducted under cdc/fda/cuz guidelines before this was released. I can’t remember.

I'm thinking he is either a shill, retard or a troll...maybe all three.
 
How about the counties that have a near zero vac rate. Pick some third world country.

Should they have not been wiped out by now?

Explain that to me. Just how does it somehow not devastate these underdeveloped nations?
 
I agree with everything you said but you don’t actually believe they will impeach him do you?
at first, i didn't think they would, even to install the first "female" president, even though they don't believe in binary identification...
anyway, i digress...
pedo joe is fucking up so bad, i think the are just using him like a disposable tool. they aren't really trying to save him from any mistakes, but just keep "letting" him make more, one after another. they have an agenda and they will ride that horse as far as they can, even if it kills the horse.
they don't need xiden to survive politically, as long as he can keep signing their bullshit and repeating their lies.
 
xplain that to me. Just how does it somehow not devastate these underdeveloped nations?
I don't think they have Micky D's, Wendy's, Pizza Hut, in Nepal and Tunisia...

I would be willing to bet their rates of Type 2 diabetes and Hypertension are not even close to the US. As technology progresses, people in the US just keep getting fatter, lazier, and just generally unhealthy. Masses of people who live in cities sit on their asses for literally years on end.

And I am not talking about being a gym rat or some other type of fitness fanatic. I am talking about eating real food you cook in your home, mowing your lawn, taking your dog for a walk, working in a garden, working with your hands, or just staying generally active. Preventable co-morbidities have contributed far more to the death toll from Covid than anything. And nobody talks about it.
 
How about the counties that have a near zero vac rate. Pick some third world country.

Should they have not been wiped out by now?

Explain that to me. Just how does it somehow not devastate these underdeveloped nations?

Many of those place have endemic diseases they treat with HCQ and Ivermectin......

that's a clue.

And the fact the USA with its vaunted health care system has so many deaths is another clue.
 
Well, it is possible to contract COVID a second time. Symptoms could be worse and the virus can be passed on to someone elsewill who has not been vaccinated. Additionally, it hasn't been determined how long your natural immunity to COVID-19 last. The best way to ensure you're protected is to get the vaccine. Hopefully, this will shed some light on its importance.
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Spring of '20 wants it's talking points back
 
Man I'll bet those Amish are burying people left and right because they haven't access to all this life saving information.
Surprised there hasn't been a news source that has documented the loss of life they must have incurred.
I'd think they would have had those horses on full gallop trying to save Abrim and Eli and the women folk.
Anybody have an update on how they are coping with this pandemic?

R