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Rifle Scopes March 5-42 Gen 2 PRS Edition

I'm not clear on what your goal here is, but I can't help but think this analysis of yours would be much better located in its own thread, rather than this one on the March PRS scope review. I have visions of long drawn-out discussions one the (de)merits of one reticle versus others and that deserves its own thread. I would be happy to participate and if you think Brandon is opinionated, you're in for a surprise.
Yeah, no prob. I am sort of a freewheeling guy, I had no goal other to brainstorm and talk, and you’re right about the placement of my little analysis.
 
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Just so you guys know, I like to approach things in a playful manner, with brainstorming at the core. Along with constructive and respectful feedback.

This may not be common around here lol


It would interesting to talk to @koshkin about that reticle…he designed both it and the pared down version (FLM-3), right?

For example, here’s a little design analysis:

FML-TR1 for the new 5-42 G2
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Here’s that same reticle for the 4-28
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In comparison, here are both the illuminated and non-illuminated versions of the Leupold TMR:
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The center area on both TMR’s is 1.0mil, and the main stadia on the illuminated model are weirdly thicker, at 1.0 vs .05 for the non-illuminated version. I would’ve thought that would be reversed, but I digress.

I included the TMR ret as I think it is a typical FFP mil hunting reticle from Leupold. For the US market, anyway.

Here’s a chart of some of the big name’s reticle dimensions.

ReticleCenter dotMain StadiaTree dots
Leupold TMR illum 1.01.0NA
Leupold TMR1.0 (open).05NA
Rzr EBR-7D.03.03.06 & .09
NF Mil-XT*.05.033 (7-35).05 & .10
FML-TR1**
(5-42 G2)
.06
(incl hashes)
.03 to 2mil
then .05
.03 & .06
FML-TR1**
(4-28)
.075
(incl hashes)
.03 to 2mil
then .06
.03 & .06
ZCO MPCT1X†.036.034NA
TT JTAC.0425.025NA
TT Gen 3 XR Fine.05.025.05 dots & .10 crosses
*Mil-C is the same only no tree.
**The FML-3 follows the same patterns as the FML-TR1 in equivalent scopes, only without the tree, of course.
†Didn’t include the MPCT3X as its tree is sorta too different. Or I’m too lazy lol. Ditto with screenshots of the other TT/ZCO reticles. Lazy!


MY TAKE​

FML-TR1/FML-3: The sizing on the center dot & stadia on both March scopes seems like it’s sliding towards (but is not maybe at) something like hunting? A little crossover action, methinks, and this is what’s causing some issues for some.

FML-TR1 tree: much smaller tree dots than anyone else. I never looked at the actual measurements before; I’m intrigued! The tree’s “heaviness” of even the EBR-2 & 7 rets is what can cause my pdog spotting issues out in the prairie.

Anyone have a though the scope pic of the FML-TR1? I’ve spent so much time on this post I’m wiped out lol (edit: I found Koshkin’s vid of it here, but it’d be nice to see a higher rez still pic)
The way March illuminates reticle requires them to be slightly thicker than the non illuminated variants are which is likely why the sizing is increased in the illuminated versus non-illuminated.
 
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What is re-zeroing like? Does this use set screws on a brass knob inside the turret a-la viper pst/Nightforce/Steiner M, etc?

Will swapping between rifles eventually leave divets?

All I can find is the zero stop and locking features, not how to set zero.
 
What is re-zeroing like? Does this use set screws on a brass knob inside the turret a-la viper pst/Nightforce/Steiner M, etc?

Will swapping between rifles eventually leave divets?

All I can find is the zero stop and locking features, not how to set zero.
The zero is set using set screws like most other scopes on the market. If you don’t misuse the optic you won’t have issue rezeroing it over and over. Torque matters!
 
Not the same model but I have the 4.5x28 with the LDK reticle. It’s a nice piece of glass, fov is amazing. They ship it with this ring that fits between the sun shade and the scope that does excellent at cutting mirage. I have the shuriken turrets and I’m not in love with the clicks but the visibility and spacing is really good, no guessing if you dialed a tenth over under. I did a tall target test and it was spot on 6 mils up and back down. It fell out of the rack into a cement floor, gave a pretty nasty mark, knocked it of zero. I repeated the tall target test and it tracked perfectly up 6 mils and back to zero. I keep wanting to find something wrong with this scope but it’s really good and the glass is excellent. Not quite as sharp as my zco’s but really good.
 
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Not the same model but I have the 4.5x28 with the LDK reticle. It’s a nice piece of glass, fov is amazing. They ship it with this ring that fits between the sun shade and the scope that does excellent at cutting mirage. I have the shuriken turrets and I’m not in love with the clicks but the visibility and spacing is really good, no guessing if you dialed a tenth over under. I did a tall target test and it was spot on 6 mils up and back down. It fell out of the rack into a cement floor, gave a pretty nasty mark, knocked it of zero. I repeated the tall target test and it tracked perfectly up 6 mils and back to zero. I keep wanting to find something wrong with this scope but it’s really good and the glass is excellent. Not quite as sharp as my zco’s but really good.
The ring to which you refer is called a Modifier Disk (MD). What is does is reduce the size of the aperture (objective) by 50% and thus increases the depth of field viewed through the riflescope. The objective lens diameter is 52MM, and it makes for a handy riflescope. I have one on an AR-10, a rifle which is heavy enough as it is without plunking a heavy riflescope on it.

How do you like the LDK reticle?

I find the clicks on the shuriken turrets to be very positive and extremely accurate. I have the same turrets on my Majesta sitting on top of my match rifle and I really like them. However, I would like to know what you do not like about them.

I have not banged up my scopes like you have, yet, so I'm glad to hear about your torture test experiment. Those 4mm thick tubes can really take some punishment.