Suppressors Form 4 wait time

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I just got a YHM Fatcat through Silencer Shop and I was able to do much of what I needed to do through a local gunshot that had a kiosk. Order placed on 4/15. Silencer arrived at my local shop on 4/24. I got my email from ATF on 4/28, but my shop is closed on Mondays. Picked it up 4/29.

All in all, I've heard of things happening faster, but I'm not complaining. I think I'll likely stick with Silencer Shop for future purchases. They made it as painless as I'd imagine it could be.
 
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TonyAngel said:
I just got a YHM Fatcat through Silencer Shop and I was able to do much of what I needed to do through a local gunshot that had a kiosk. Order placed on 4/15. Silencer arrived at my local shop on 4/24. I got my email from ATF on 4/28, but my shop is closed on Mondays. Picked it up 4/29.

All in all, I've heard of things happening faster, but I'm not complaining. I think I'll likely stick with Silencer Shop for future purchases. They made it as painless as I'd imagine it could be.
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Maybe too easy. I got one in Feb, one in March and just got my third in April! lol
 
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Rob01 said:
Silencer Shop? No. Once it has your info and fingerprints you are good to go. You only have to update your pic on your phone once a year.
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This.

Silencer doesn't have to be bought from silencershop. Just the "paperwork".

Ex: I bought 3 directly from Aero. Aero form 3'd them to my dealer. Dealer then did the silencershop online forms to me...I paid silencershop the stamp fee's.

Probably still has to be a silencer shop dealer tho. Dunno for sure...

Note: + transfer costs of your FFL if NOT buying from silencershop (normally no fee if bought thru them). So there's that too. Forgot how much transfers were, wasn't much tho.
 
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Camelfilter said:
This.

Silencer doesn't have to be bought from silencershop. Just the "paperwork".

Ex: I bought 3 directly from Aero. Aero form 3'd them to my dealer. Dealer then did the silencershop online forms to me...I paid silencershop the stamp fee's.

Probably still has to be a silencer shop dealer tho. Dunno for sure...

Note: + transfer costs of your FFL if NOT buying from silencershop (normally no fee if bought thru them). So there's that too. Forgot how much transfers were, wasn't much tho.
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For me my transfer fee plus SS paperwork comes out to $100 for the ones I have bought elsewhere.
 
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Riding along with the new owners of my LGS while they tackled the learning curve of being a new FFL and a SOT was at times frustrating

But, finally, after three months of wrangling their ducks into a V formation they got my Huxwrx Ventum in and paperwork submitted on April 25

Our favorite agency 🙄😄approved my form 4 today, May 8.

Not as quick as some but a helluva lot faster than the 11 months my last two took.

I am anxious to see how it compares to the Nomad L I was using on the gas guns.
 
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DeathBeforeDismount said:
R9 is a great can at 400.( I have one) But at current prices I would grab a hux 9ti or something lighter. The kgm 9smg is a killer can as well.
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Yeah, the Hux 9ti is the other one I'm looking at. What I'm looking for foremost with this can is sound suppression and what I'm seeing is that the r9 does a better job. Not worried about weight. The rig this is going on has a 5" barrel and is pretty light anyway.

I'm still on the fence.
 
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StephenShivers said:
Capitol Armory has TBAC Fly 9's and Fly 45's in stock right now. Talk about decisions. I'm on the fence about a Fly 45, however I've bought 5 suppressors this year and my wife might shit a brick if I buy another one.. Or worse, go spend what I spend...😂
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Nothing a Tiffany's box doesn't solve. You get a suppressor she gets jewelry.
 
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darkfader said:
Wow. I haven’t done a form 1 in a while but they were much faster a year or two ago. I wonder what the hold up is there.
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Yeah, not sure. I did one a couple years ago and it went 8 months with no movement so I withdrew it. Never got anything that said I was missing anything or anything, just silence. So trying again this time.
 
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Here it is. Eforms is 16 days...way past that with no updates. Called the other day too and the dude was not helpful at all. Just said submitted this date, I was like yeah. Gave him trust name too. Got nothing out of him.

Current Processing Times | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Average Processing Times for Applications Processed During April 2025 Statistical information on average processing times of applications that are filled out correctly and completely.
www.atf.gov www.atf.gov
 
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darkfader said:
Damn. I did a bunch of SBR lowers in 2020-2023 and I was getting them back on average in 2-3 weeks
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Did you send in fingerprint cards? I haven't and think that is my shortfall. I scanned and attached it to the eform submission. I would think they'd at least reach out and say missing blah.
 
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cjs88 said:
Did you send in fingerprint cards? I haven't and think that is my shortfall. I scanned and attached it to the eform submission. I would think they'd at least reach out and say missing blah.
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Yes I was using the cards at that time. I have my EFT file now but I haven’t done a form1 with them yet. I’ll be doing another SBR soon though with the digital prints. I’ll report here with my results
 
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I just submitted another Form 1 for an SBR today as an individual. I have the .eft file for my prints so it's SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS now. I'm not in a hurry, but I'm excited to see how long this one takes. I've had them come back in less than 30 days on average, so we shall see. I'll update when I get a change in status.
 
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darkfader said:
I just submitted another Form 1 for an SBR today as an individual. I have the .eft file for my prints so it's SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS now. I'm not in a hurry, but I'm excited to see how long this one takes. I've had them come back in less than 30 days on average, so we shall see. I'll update when I get a change in status.
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I got the approval for this at about 0700 this morning. 11 days. I guess I’ll put this thing together over the weekend.
 
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RBell24 said:
My most recent EF4 as an individual took 61 days. My brother went with me and got a couple on the same day. He was approved in 4 or 5 days. Not sure why I was the unlucky one.
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You didn't show enough leg on your submitted picture:p
Think my last was about 3 weeks
Sure is hit or miss but damn sight better than it was.
Hated when it was "submit it and forget it".
 
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Last suppressor (with my custom trust) took over a year and involved me trying to get my reps in congress to resolve the issue. They were stonewalled so luckily I heard about that NICS liaison, which did the trick as it was the FBI and not ATF that was taking a nap.

Got it earlier this year. It was submitted before the speed up.

Anyway, just bought a Hydrogen L (no trust this time) and it took two days! Not sure if that’s the new system working, less complication with no trust, or both.
 
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Jcarpenter223 said:
Even if it does they probably won’t make it official until beginning of next year
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Yah, regardless what laws get changed, there likely would be a significant timeframe delay until they actually changed.

Was chatting with the guys at one of our frequented shops a few weeks back. The manager was considering getting more (current NFA suppressor) inventory in as "just in case" it/similar passes, however the math on doing so simply didn't pencil out.

I mentioned they might consider bumping up on accessories instead. QD muzzle devices, pistons, Nielsen devices etc...
 
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Holliday said:
So if the law was to pass in say July or August, people will keep submitting applications and $200 until the end of the year?
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I know I will pay it because my “Freedom Loving” ( read Commi) state may just take the opportunity to stop their sales. And I don’t trust the courts to protect our rights any more than they have for semi autos!
 
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vanrichten said:
Got 3 Form4s on trusts approved in two days last week. Certified on Wednesday and approved on Friday.

The one before that took 2 weeks.

Certified three more today. We will see how long they take.

There seriously is no rhyme or reason to it.
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That’s awesome. Curious to know if those quickly approved trusts were in house SS “single shot” style trusts or custom trusts that had previously been used for other items?
 
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fanninland said:
That’s awesome. Curious to know if those quickly approved trusts were in house SS “single shot” style trusts or custom trusts that had previously been used for other items?
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All of them were SS single shot trusts. I’ve used those for roughly 25 NFA items in the last year. Between suppressors and SBRs. I like having everything in a separate trust just so I can add whoever I want to specific trusts/items and not have to worry about it.
 
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Interesting….that sounds like a good plan for maximum flexibility. I’ve put everything in two custom trusts up to this point (pre and post 41F) but have been wondering if the SS single shot trust approvals are quicker than custom trusts I.e. individual<single shot trust<custom trust
 
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fanninland said:
Interesting….that sounds like a good plan for maximum flexibility. I’ve put everything in two custom trusts up to this point (pre and post 41F) but have been wondering if the SS single shot trust approvals are quicker than custom trusts I.e. individual<single shot trust<custom trust
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I don’t know about faster, trusts seem to take a bit longer than individual but really it’s all a crap shoot as far as timing. The last 20ish I’ve done have been all over the place from the shortest being 30ish hours to the longest being 3 weeks. All of them on SS single shot trusts.

It comes down to whatever examiner pulls them out of the hat that day. It really makes no sense at all.
 
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I've done a couple SS trusts but lately been using one multi item trust with just me on it till I have all the items I want - then I'll add my son's. I can add and take them off pretty easily though. Both got approvals from 48 hours to a week at most. Not much difference, if any, that I can tell
 
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