Finally! We are going to catch up to Mexico!!!

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Maser said:
I guess so much for MAHA. :unsure:
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Cane sugar is better than High Fructose Corn Syrup!

And Coke was intended as a treat/snack/pause that refreshes.

Not a 2 gallon a day habit.

So bring back cane sugar... And let Americans drink what the market bears.

As Kennedy said, "If you want your Coke and your Big Mac, you should stilll be able to get them." It's his job to help people understand the consequences of abusing the food available to them. (I paraphrase...)

This is how responsibility works.

But getting the 'food manufacturers' to remove dangerous shit from food is also a priority. And reminding people to look at the ingredients list. The very term 'Food Manufacturers' is disgusting... Food should be grown, raised, harvested, etc. Not manufactured. Manufactured stuff is not food. It's Soylent Green

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sirhrmechanic said:
Cane sugar is better than High Fructose Corn Syrup!

And Coke was intended as a treat/snack/pause that refreshes.

Not a 2 gallon a day habit.

So bring back cane sugar... And let Americans drink what the market bears.

As Kennedy said, "If you want your Coke and your Big Mac, you should stilll be able to get them." It's his job to help people understand the consequences of abusing the food available to them. (I paraphrase...)

This is how responsibility works.

But getting the 'food manufacturers' to remove dangerous shit from food is also a priority. And reminding people to look at the ingredients list. The very term 'Food Manufacturers' is disgusting... Food should be grown, raised, harvested, etc. Not manufactured. Manufactured stuff is not food. It's Soylent Green

Sirhr
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Yeah, I get that real sugar is the lesser of the two evils, but it just seems like an oxymoron to think of soda as healthy. Fun fact, from a health perspective, beer is actually healthier than soda. :cool: 🍻
 
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_Windrider_ said:
I quit drinking soda 15 years ago. If you have a 1 a day habit of you quit you’d lose 12 lbs in a year. Thats how much sugar those poison cans have.
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I have a '3 Jarritos Lime' a month habit. I love that stuff. When I am grocery shopping, I buy three bottles. Mexican soda. Loads of sugar. Great flavor. Probably colored with shit from an antifreeze manufacturer. That's my 'soda habit.' Yup, it's a lot of sugar. But it's my treat and I am sticking to it. I am sure that's not what will kill me in the end...

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Cane sugar is better than High Fructose Corn Syrup!

And Coke was intended as a treat/snack/pause that refreshes.

Not a 2 gallon a day habit.

So bring back cane sugar... And let Americans drink what the market bears.

As Kennedy said, "If you want your Coke and your Big Mac, you should stilll be able to get them." It's his job to help people understand the consequences of abusing the food available to them. (I paraphrase...)

This is how responsibility works.

But getting the 'food manufacturers' to remove dangerous shit from food is also a priority. And reminding people to look at the ingredients list. The very term 'Food Manufacturers' is disgusting... Food should be grown, raised, harvested, etc. Not manufactured. Manufactured stuff is not food. It's Soylent Green

Sirhr
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There’s no meaningful metabolic difference between sucrose and hfcs. Sucrose is a disaccharide, consisting of glucose and fructose monosaccharides. HFCS is a mixture of glucose and fructose in roughly equal measure. Sucrose is readily broken down by the body into glucose and fructose. Whether it gets there via a disaccharide, or 2 monosaccharides, the metabolic impact is the same.

Manufacturers in the US use HFCS because we grow a ton of corn, which is federally subsidized; making it substantially cheaper than cane sugar, which is imported and subject to tariffs…

HFCS is also easier to work with, as it is liquid at room temp, making it easier to blend into liquids.

The only thing that removing HFCS from soft drinks does is make them more expensive, for no benefit.

That’s a terrible use of govt effort.
 
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hlee said:
There’s no meaningful metabolic difference between sucrose and hfcs. Sucrose is a disaccharide, consisting of glucose and fructose monosaccharides. HFCS is a mixture of glucose and fructose in roughly equal measure. Sucrose is readily broken down by the body into glucose and fructose. Whether it gets there via a disaccharide, or 2 monosaccharides, the metabolic impact is the same.

Manufacturers in the US use HFCS because we grow a ton of corn, which is federally subsidized; making it substantially cheaper than cane sugar, which is imported and subject to tariffs…

HFCS is also easier to work with, as it is liquid at room temp, making it easier to blend into liquids.

The only thing that removing HFCS from soft drinks does is make them more expensive, for no benefit.

That’s a terrible use of govt effort.
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I've always heard that it was the carbonic acid in soda that was the worst for you. Rotting your teeth and GI tract.
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Now bring back the coca extract and we’ll
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Here, here! 👏👏🤣

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hlee said:
There’s no meaningful metabolic difference between sucrose and hfcs. Sucrose is a disaccharide, consisting of glucose and fructose monosaccharides. HFCS is a mixture of glucose and fructose in roughly equal measure. Sucrose is readily broken down by the body into glucose and fructose. Whether it gets there via a disaccharide, or 2 monosaccharides, the metabolic impact is the same.

Manufacturers in the US use HFCS because we grow a ton of corn, which is federally subsidized; making it substantially cheaper than cane sugar, which is imported and subject to tariffs…

HFCS is also easier to work with, as it is liquid at room temp, making it easier to blend into liquids.

The only thing that removing HFCS from soft drinks does is make them more expensive, for no benefit.

That’s a terrible use of govt effort.
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Well, it worked for cigarettes. CA made them over 7.50 a pack and people started smoking less.
or maybe standing at a vending machine with a roll of quarters for that one pack ;) LOL
 
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P-Squared said:
I live just a few miles north of the mexican border. If given the choice when I have that rare soft drink, Ill spend the extra money for a bottle if the mexican coca cola.
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Interesting.


Years ago I was hanging out in Pureto Angel Mexico, 1200 miles south of the border. At that time (mid 90's) a quart/liter of Gatoraid made in Philadelphia (they put the manufacturer location n the lable) was selling for $1.50 or so stateside. I paid 3 pesos or about $00,30 cents in Puerto Angel.

:unsure:
 
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babyguppy said:
Well, it worked for cigarettes. CA made them over 7.50 a pack and people started smoking less.
or maybe standing at a vending machine with a roll of quarters for that one pack ;) LOL
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I remember $00.15 pre pack in the 50's in Virginia where the finest light 'baca' is grown.
 
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DeathBeforeDismount said:
First we get Mexican coke

Now do Jew Dew ( made for passover). That stuff is like crack.
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Back at my last house when Wal-Marts used to be open 24/7, I used to take walks at around 3-4AM to Wal-Mart and back. Usually didn't go into the store to buy anything, just walked to the front and used the vending machine and then walked back home. Anyways, one morning the only thing that was available in the machines was Mountain Dew. So I buy a bottle and out comes some stupid gamer shit with the Mountain Dew label on it. I didn't give a shit because I was thirsty and had that whole bottle drank by the time I hit the next block. Tasted like shit, but hey it killed my thirst. Anyways, while back at home my stomach was making awful noises and a few hours later I had the shits like crazy! It literally gave me the same symptoms I get from food poisoning. Never touched a Mountain Dew product ever again.
 
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Maser said:
Back at my last house when Wal-Marts used to be open 24/7, I used to take walks at around 3-4AM to Wal-Mart and back. Usually didn't go into the store to buy anything, just walked to the front and used the vending machine and then walked back home. Anyways, one morning the only thing that was available in the machines was Mountain Dew. So I buy a bottle and out comes some stupid gamer shit with the Mountain Dew label on it. I didn't give a shit because I was thirsty and had that whole bottle drank by the time I hit the next block. Tasted like shit, but hey it killed my thirst. Anyways, while back at home my stomach was making awful noises and a few hours later I had the shits like crazy! It literally gave me the same symptoms I get from food poisoning. Never touched a Mountain Dew product ever again.
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Clearly you were never in the military. It functions almost solely on Mt. Dew and Marlboros.
 
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hlee said:
There’s no meaningful metabolic difference between sucrose and hfcs. Sucrose is a disaccharide, consisting of glucose and fructose monosaccharides. HFCS is a mixture of glucose and fructose in roughly equal measure. Sucrose is readily broken down by the body into glucose and fructose. Whether it gets there via a disaccharide, or 2 monosaccharides, the metabolic impact is the same.

Manufacturers in the US use HFCS because we grow a ton of corn, which is federally subsidized; making it substantially cheaper than cane sugar, which is imported and subject to tariffs…

HFCS is also easier to work with, as it is liquid at room temp, making it easier to blend into liquids.

The only thing that removing HFCS from soft drinks does is make them more expensive, for no benefit.

That’s a terrible use of govt effort.
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Cane sugar tastes better.... Unless there is some other reason that Mexican Coke tastes way better than 'American Coke.' I thought it was because real cane sugar was used? Or maybe the glass bottles?

But whether it is chemically the same or not... Taste is why I drink an ice cold soda! Not organic chemistry. But I get your point... one is not worse or better for you.

Or maybe it is if the byproducts of extracting the corn syrup involve lots of shit that leaves massive residual chemicals. Wouldn't know. Never been in the sugar business!

But thanks for the clarification!!!

Cheers!

Sirhr
 
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hlee said:
There’s no meaningful metabolic difference between sucrose and hfcs. Sucrose is a disaccharide, consisting of glucose and fructose monosaccharides. HFCS is a mixture of glucose and fructose in roughly equal measure. Sucrose is readily broken down by the body into glucose and fructose. Whether it gets there via a disaccharide, or 2 monosaccharides, the metabolic impact is the same.

Manufacturers in the US use HFCS because we grow a ton of corn, which is federally subsidized; making it substantially cheaper than cane sugar, which is imported and subject to tariffs…

HFCS is also easier to work with, as it is liquid at room temp, making it easier to blend into liquids.

The only thing that removing HFCS from soft drinks does is make them more expensive, for no benefit.

That’s a terrible use of govt effort.
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If you tell the hfcs=bad people this in real life they meltdown. My only real issue with corn sugar is all the chemicals they could be using on the corn (herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers, etc). Maybe they use that crap on sugar cane too. Mexi-coke definitely tastes better than corn coke. I’ve had a bunch of both. Coke was an important part of my diet when competitive cycling was my thing (I’m reformed now). Still use it for energy and recovery from strength training. I love coke.
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Cane sugar tastes better.... Unless there is some other reason that Mexican Coke tastes way better than 'American Coke.' I thought it was because real cane sugar was used? Or maybe the glass bottles?

But whether it is chemically the same or not... Taste is why I drink an ice cold soda! Not organic chemistry. But I get your point... one is not worse or better for you.

Or maybe it is if the byproducts of extracting the corn syrup involve lots of shit that leaves massive residual chemicals. Wouldn't know. Never been in the sugar business!

But thanks for the clarification!!!

Cheers!

Sirhr
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I also think the Mexican cokes taste better. Why? Is it the cane sugar? I don’t know. Could be the glass bottles. But, I think there is a subtle, but real, formulation difference. Sorta like how a drink from one fountain can taste different than “the same drink” from another.

dustingaunder said:
If you tell the hfcs=bad people this in real life they meltdown. My only real issue with corn sugar is all the chemicals they could be using on the corn (herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers, etc). Maybe they use that crap on sugar cane too. Mexi-coke definitely tastes better than corn coke. I’ve had a bunch of both. Coke was an important part of my diet when competitive cycling was my thing (I’m reformed now). Still use it for energy and recovery from strength training. I love coke.
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Ever seen videos of granulated sugar being moved around with a grimy front end loader? They’re out there…
 
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hlee said:
I also think the Mexican cokes taste better. Why? Is it the cane sugar? I don’t know. Could be the glass bottles. But, I think there is a subtle, but real, formulation difference. Sorta like how a drink from one fountain can taste different than “the same drink” from another.


Ever seen videos of granulated sugar being moved around with a grimy front end loader? They’re out there…
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Buries head in sand. La la La la I can’t hear you.
 
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Maser said:
I guess so much for MAHA. :unsure:
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They said sugar was the white death. So, alternate sweeteners came out and people said those were made of various things and not healthy.

I get a kick out of the fake sweetener I use. It says it's "plant-based." Wait a minute - isn't sugar cane also a plant?

Anyway, get plenty of rest, eat healthy, get exercise, reduce stress when you can. Drink only in moderation. If cancer and such does not run in your family, then sometime between the age of 70 and 100, you will die.
 
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hlee said:
I also think the Mexican cokes taste better. Why? Is it the cane sugar? I don’t know. Could be the glass bottles. But, I think there is a subtle, but real, formulation difference. Sorta like how a drink from one fountain can taste different than “the same drink” from another.


Ever seen videos of granulated sugar being moved around with a grimy front end loader? They’re out there…
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I love coke (a cola) I can tell you where it's bottled by the flavor. Mexican is a little light on the carbonation, but great, bottled in Atlanta is the best, more orangie than any other. Atlanta poaches on other territories. Warren Buffet drinks 5 a day. Vegetarians are susceptible to fiber blockage in the small intestine. If it's not too bad Coke can dissolve it. Great stuff! Out.
 
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Ronws said:
They said sugar was the white death. So, alternate sweeteners came out and people said those were made of various things and not healthy.

I get a kick out of the fake sweetener I use. It says it's "plant-based." Wait a minute - isn't sugar cane also a plant?

Anyway, get plenty of rest, eat healthy, get exercise, reduce stress when you can. Drink only in moderation. If cancer and such does not run in your family, then sometime between the age of 70 and 100, you will die.
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The fact is, white cane sugar is one of the worst things you can put into your body...other than out and out poisons or polonium. Increases liklydood of all sorts of diseases, rots your teeth, and makes you obese. Cancer loves it.

"But it makes my coke taste better." Which is certainly does. LOL

I dont know if corn syrup is as bad.
 
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Mk16.5 said:
I love coke (a cola) I can tell you where it's bottled by the flavor. Mexican is a little light on the carbonation, but great, bottled in Atlanta is the best, more orangie than any other. Atlanta poaches on other territories. Warren Buffet drinks 5 a day. Vegetarians are susceptible to fiber blockage in the small intestine. If it's not too bad Coke can dissolve it. Great stuff! Out.
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It'll shine an dirty penny right up.
 
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Coca cola never went back to the old formula. They took so much heat for changing the formula (the new shit tasted like pepsi), that they claimed they changed it back but it never tasted the same. Mexican coke tastes like coke from the 70s.
 
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Very worthwhile read…

I remember the grain crash and arguments in the 1980’s about subsidies. So knew a bit of the history. But this lays things out really well!


Healthier or not? As said above… consuming significant quantities of sugar is not healthy. But taste is taste. That the HFCS vs Sugar is more political than economic or agricultural is interesting.

As usual, subsidizing one thing has unintended consequences… so does a tariff to be realistic. But in this case, it was not market forces, but protecting farmers during the vicissitudes of Cold War grain sales policy… and remember the all-critical Iowa vote…. That’s corn country!

Sirhr

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Maggot said:
The fact is, white cane sugar is one of the worst things you can put into your body...other than out and out poisons or polonium. Increases liklydood of all sorts of diseases, rots your teeth, and makes you obese. Cancer loves it.

"But it makes my coke taste better." Which is certainly does. LOL

I dont know if corn syrup is as bad.
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Corn syrup is worse.

But you're probably old enough to remember the lies of corn syrup being healthy back in the 1940s...
 
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Cane sugar reacts with other chemicals in the coke recipe to end up nearly just like corn syrup, through chemical reaction, to a 50/50 sucrose and fructose, which is really close to corn syrup 55/45. So sugar wise its basically the same.

Health wise in this regard the difference is negligible.

BTW this is true of all cane containing sodas.
 
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Ever wake up and say “today, I just want to see the world burn?” Well, today’s the day.

A cup of strawberries is not significantly different than 2 teaspoons of granulated white sugar, brown sugar, HFCS, coconut sugar, or whatever other source of refined sucrose has become fashionable + a multivitamin + a fiber pill.
 
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hlee said:
Ever wake up and say “today, I just want to see the world burn?” Well, today’s the day.

A cup of strawberries is not significantly different than 2 teaspoons of granulated white sugar, brown sugar, HFCS, coconut sugar, or whatever other source of refined sucrose has become fashionable + a multivitamin + a fiber pill.
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So yer saying that strawberry ice cream isn’t healthy? Even though it’s fruit and dairy?
 
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