We have very similar families…I just watch the shit shows and shake my damn head.
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With the history we all ready know of Biden getting money from Ukraine I would have to assume that he would get a cut of the funding he sends over. So his statement threatening to send troops if aid is not approved is quite disgusting to say the lease. With the power Joe has will he pull some strings to secure a set of dog tags for Hunter so he can take point day one fighting the Russians in Ukraine ......
Ok boomer
Just read it recently. Im seeing way too many similarities with what goes on here. But hey football lol
You should share your infinite knowledge and experience that you've gained in righting this ship called the US of A. What's YOUR secret ? What have YOU done to correct the course we are on and how did you do it ?
All you do is point your fingers and "bitch" at other generations for "doing nothing". I see no evidence that you've done a damned thing other than point fingers at others and try and instigate others into doing something that would probably land them in jail, or worse.
All these things that you think others should be "doing" are available "options" to you as well.
Like I said..........ray epps. You've got Glowie written all over you.
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First and best step is saying no.
Desperation step is andirons and baseball bats.
I don’t think I have ever seen the desperation step work save for our Revolution
Fuck it, send em. Let's see how the troops with as many personalities as hair colors stand up to a full fledged battle. No safe spaces in war. Take your fucking crying somewhere else. I'm betting that if they were sent, there's going to be a lot of suicides on the battle front. And the fighting along side actual Nazis will blow their minds as well.
I think the difference with our revolution is that is was lead by Godly men that were also students of history and human nature.
Right now Im working to replace the rep in my district with someone thats not a pos. Im involved in local elections and my community. Do you even know who your rep is? Its yours and your parents generation that let this place go to shit i wouldn't expect you to do anything different now
our military is supplied on a massive level compared to the Russian shoestring budget. that would make the difference. However, without that....
(it translates to english)
"Каждые десять секунд": американский наемник рассказал про "ад" на Украине
Российская армия атакует огромным количеством беспилотников и артиллерии, поэтому каждый солдат, воюющий за Украину, находится в постоянной опасности, заявил в... РИА Новости, 30.12.2023
ria.ru Group of us tried to take over the local Republican Town Committee that has been defunct forever.
We gained control than some blue haired mask wearer showed up said we were illegitimate and she was now in charge.
State committee backed the Communist.
She fakes meetings now, can not produce meetings from any real meeting. Three weeks ago when we went to vote her out in presence of a member from state commitee she chose to table all issues and immediately close the meeting.
State observer said “That was her right”
Only way to effect change is from outside either of the two present businesses running the politics.
That sucks but at the same time warms my heart someone on this forum is actually trying to make change. On Christmas i read here about the crossing of the Delaware and couldn't stop thinking about the two guys that froze to death that night so we might have a chance as a beacon of freedom. If 10% of us got involved at the state and local level it would change this country in no time.
I'd force the state to show evidence or threaten to sue on the fact that she wasn't elected.
In Massachusetts, ward and town committees are the building blocks of political parties. In towns, party town committees are elected town-wide. In cities, party committees are elected by voters in each ward.
Our army would do fine until it comes to actually having to have troops on the ground.
American infantry marching into Russia will be wishing they were back in the sandbox instead.
But it would probably go nuclear at that point so they wouldn't have to worry about dying on the frozen wastelands.
I seriously doubt those who actually run the world intend to let there be a full on war between Russia and America at this point.
It would be too destructive and dangerous to their wealth.
It makes so much more money to play out these proxy hot wars until the proxies run out of bodies then... peace...
Also as much as everyone calls the Chinese stupid and backwards, they would realize in any actual war of the USA against Russia that China's on survival is threatened and they can't afford to let the Americans crush the Russians.
I would expect at that point pretty much the rest of the world who is not currently controlled by the USA understands either it's all in Armageddon and hope for the best, or prepare to all be slaves to the American imperialists and their corporations.
Well..........
Number 1. "Right now Im working to replace the rep in my district with someone thats not a pos. Im involved in local elections and my community". Good for you, you are to be congratulated, sincerely.
Number 2. "Do you even know who your rep is? Its yours and your parents generation that let this place go to shit i wouldn't expect you to do anything different now". Yes I know who my "Reps are". They're all a bunch of Microsoft financed communist fags. This state was taken over by the californicators forty years ago. My (and people's like me) vote has not counted for a long, long time. Do you by chance use Microsoft products ? I thought so. Nice job of projecting.
Oh, and fuck you. Myself and my parents didn't have any more to do with this place going to shit than YOU did. Did I mention, Fuck you ?
Dude im not trying to stir shit up with people on my own fucking team, im trying to get people pissed off enough to do something, anything to get us back to being the best place on earth. The last thing i want is revolution(even though id sure love to see most of congress at the end of a rope). Cali is straight up behind enemy lines but theres enough conservatives there to make change unfortunately we dont demand it like the rabid libtards do.
OK, fair enough. What do you suggest ?
Hint; Pointing fingers is not a winning strategy......
You do the "OK Boomer" thing. It's nothing but offensive. Boomers may be guilty of not doing anything more than you have, but they're not guilty of doing anything less than you have either. In case you haven't noticed, this country is under attack internally from all directions. You, being divisive, is not helping/accomplishing anything. Other than perhaps feeding your ego.
What the rabid libtards have in common (that we don't) is "cohesion". They all band together behind any/all msm and politicians that toe their line. "We" (you) don't. Stop with the bullshit of calling out other people that have no more influence than you do. It's divisive and really, really wears thin. It turns people off.
Like I said, show/tell us what you have done that is successful. What you mentioned about your involvement in local politics is a good start and it's appreciated.
In my defense you started with the ray epps thing. Personally im grabbing at straws myself. The thing with the new rep kinda fell in my lap. My church is starting to get involved in politics and i hope to play a active role there. I tried to join a few organizations but they only wanted lawyers and campaign people. I know it isnt possible for a lot of people but moving to a state where your vote will count would be massive. Ever look at how many conservatives are in cali? Its enough to turn quite a few states solid red and give our side better electoral college numbers(I know this isnt realistic yet). There's enough people here way smarter than me. If you started working on a solution instead of all the "its over" attitude maybe we can get somewhere.
I'll come back to the rest of your post a bit later........
I've never said, nor do I believe "it's over". It's an uphill battle, but one that must be fought.
Yep, divisive comments get you nowhere along with the “your generation fucked this up for me” whine. That helps no one. Same line can be flipped. Everyone can play the blame game and no one wins. You get into that crap and everybody is a victim of something. No way forward from that.
Now, as to actions. Yeah, I’ve participated and still do. Ran for office but even in flyover country I’m way too libertarian/conservative in my views it seems. (I lost
)I support and act for causes and certain candidates I believe in. Actively. Both volunteering and money.
Better move fast though, your replacements are crossing the border every day; and if you don’t believe they’re replacements for us then you’re fooling yourself.
The kind of things that need to be done imo to pull out of this is entitlement reforms (which is the “third rail of politics “ which no one wants to touch), tax reform and elimination of many of the deductions, term limits, balanced budget requirements WITH debt retirement included(right at 34 trillion now, and don’t hand me the percentage of GDP bullshit please) closed borders, a complete revamping and audit of all federal agencies and their powers, stay the hell out of nation building and foreign wars unless there is a demonstrable strategic reason for us to be involved, tariffs while understanding they’ll hit both ways, energy self reliance and in that vein if it can’t pay for itself then don’t do it (electric b.s.). There, that’s a good start. And before you ask, yes, I support either in person or with money every damn one of them.
I get it yer pissed...we all are. But fat shaming other generations into doing something you yersef are unwilling to do only makes you look weak with a hint of yellow.
As far as moving to other states goes, maybe fine for a few, but most are unwilling to prematurely give up what they have worked for.
Standing yer ground to protect what's yers is, well, kind of the American way.
Some will see that you are calling out others that you should consider allies and know that their plan is working. Don't do that!!
Not cramping on you, just tryna steer ya back in the right direction.
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Right.Who cares, right ?
I should have told her 'Hey, at least there's no more mean tweets.'
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I don't know why, but commies can seem to get along with each other, get the fuck blown out of them, get napalmed and the next day they're back to re-building tunnels, missing fellow comrades and body parts but singing their commie songs.
Maybe because they're always on the offensive?
Ha. We’ve been racing towards totalitarianism and destruction since the first Progressive movement in the late 19th century before anyone alive was born. We had about 100-150 years of relative liberty.
The only way back at this point is a hard reset and restoration of our Constitution.
Soft men make for hard times.
Im mean the left did the slow march through thr institutions. We can to. It starts with raising kids that see through the bullshit their teachers are trying to push on them or home schooling where appropriate. It took a long time to get here we aint going to fix it overnight
The constitution itself is a problem. A civil war was almost fought because of it’s adoption. Many men at the time knew that the powerful centralized federal gov’t described in it would be a problem. They wrote about it in the Anti-Federalist Papers and laid out exactly what happened well before the constitution was foolishly adopted. Their papers read like a script for the movie that played/is playing afterwards. The rich and powerful men at the time were pro-constitution because they wanted to have more control over the people and the working class was against it for the same reason.
ANTI-FEDERALIST PAPERS
The Anti-Federalist Papers During the period from the drafting and proposal of the federal Constitution in September, 1787, to its ratification in 1789 there was an intense debate on ratification. […]
thefederalistpapers.org 
I commend your effort.
Similar to pmclaine, I became involved in understanding the "political machine" from the local level all up the way to the State Legislature. I was the guy who went to the town hall meetings when there were 4 - 5 people there, on a good turn out night. I remember one short conversation vividly with a Legislator I had become friends with. I told him "Every time the State legislature finishes their session, I lose a little bit more of my freedom". His reply was "The Representatives and Senators are elected to legislate"...... More legislation = Less Freedom. He invited me to be his guest and sit with him during the current session of the legislature. Through out this learning process I communicated with other State Senators. They turned a deaf ear to my concerns. I found it unusual that a State Senator could introduce a bill that would have an impact on every human being in that State but they were unwilling to listen to the very person the bill would impact. This"lesson" spanned about 5 years of my life. I remember very, very well talking to someone running for State Representative. At the time she was young, Liberal and was pushing for the State to furnish child care for parents working a minimum wage job. I explained to her that her constituents were "The Shopper's of Walmart". In the long run the people working the higher paying jobs were being taxed to pay for child care. In conversation I called her "Pollyanna"... She was always welcoming when I visited her office in the Capitol. She had a big bowl of free candy and I would always show up with a big bag of candy for her bowl.
For the past 20 years "The Shopper's of Walmart" have kept her in office. And we all know the conditions in the State of Oregon.
The lesson I learned was time / resources wasted on politics could be better spent elsewhere.
Sara Gelser Blouin is an American politician from Oregon. She is a member of the Democratic Party.Since 2015, she has been a member of the Oregon State Senate from District 8. From 2005 to 2015, she served in the Oregon House of Representatives for District 16, representing Corvallis and Philomath. Wikipedia
Born: 1973 (age 50 years), Las Vegas, NV
Party: Democratic Party
Education: Oregon State University, Earlham College
Office: Oregon State Senator since 2015
Sara Gelser Blouin - Wikipedia
Where do you think we should spend that time and energy? I dont doubt that most politicians are pompous, egomaniacs that wont listen to us but what realistic path can we take?I commend your effort.
Similar to pmclaine, I became involved in understanding the "political machine" from the local level all up the way to the State Legislature. I was the guy who went to the town hall meetings when there were 4 - 5 people there, on a good turn out night. I remember one short conversation vividly with a Legislator I had become friends with. I told him "Every time the State legislature finishes their session, I lose a little bit more of my freedom". His reply was "The Representatives and Senators are elected to legislate"...... More legislation = Less Freedom. He invited me to be his guest and sit with him during the current session of the legislature. Through out this learning process I communicated with other State Senators. They turned a deaf ear to my concerns. I found it unusual that a State Senator could introduce a bill that would have an impact on every human being in that State but they were unwilling to listen to the very person the bill would impact. This"lesson" spanned about 5 years of my life. I remember very, very well talking to someone running for State Representative. At the time she was young, Liberal and was pushing for the State to furnish child care for parents working a minimum wage job. I explained to her that her constituents were "The Shopper's of Walmart". In the long run the people working the higher paying jobs were being taxed to pay for child care. In conversation I called her "Pollyanna"... She was always welcoming when I visited her office in the Capitol. She had a big bowl of free candy and I would always show up with a big bag of candy for her bowl.
For the past 20 years "The Shopper's of Walmart" have kept her in office. And we all know the conditions in the State of Oregon.
The lesson I learned was time / resources wasted on politics could be better spent elsewhere.
Sara Gelser Blouin is an American politician from Oregon. She is a member of the Democratic Party.Since 2015, she has been a member of the Oregon State Senate from District 8. From 2005 to 2015, she served in the Oregon House of Representatives for District 16, representing Corvallis and Philomath. Wikipedia
Born: 1973 (age 50 years), Las Vegas, NV
Party: Democratic Party
Education: Oregon State University, Earlham College
Office: Oregon State Senator since 2015
Sara Gelser Blouin - Wikipedia
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Use your resources and move towards this goal = "Survival of the fittest".
No two people will agree how to reach this goal.
You can't save them all. Improve your "street smarts" and sort out people quickly and don't look back.
3 days without water and you are dead while sitting on 10,000 rounds of ammo.
When the food chain collapses, you can't eat gold.
Become the Grey Man... Your first line of security is keeping your mouth shut.
Start with these 5 things and the rest of the "to do" list will become obvious.
why does it matter now?
"they" told us if we didn't spend trillions killing countless goat herders and sacrificing american lives in the middle east, we are doomed.
we got chased out of afghanistan by those goat herders, so we are done already.
right?
"they" told us if we didn't spend trillions killing countless goat herders and sacrificing american lives in the middle east, we are doomed.
we got chased out of afghanistan by those goat herders, so we are done already.
right?
That right there shows nobody payed attention to the 70s and 80s.
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See I disagree! I think being “the grey man” is exactly how we got to this point. Being scared to involve oneself and staying in the shadows means there is no counter to these peoples plans and they can go on unabated. Sure, they may still accomplish their goals even if you stand in the limelight and try to do something. You might be nothing more than a speed bump, but it’s something.
The issue really is that no good person wants to be involved in politics because of how dirty it is. So dirty people fill the ranks. Someone is always going to fill the ranks. So we can either get active in the local level and install good people and work our way up or we can remain in the shadows and throw it all away. I’ve thought long and hard about this. Im just as guilty as the rest of you. I don’t mind entering the fray if it was just me, but I don’t want to drag my family through that. However, if I was a single guy with a good head I’d damn sure consider getting involved. It’s the only way.
Inaction is precisely how Hamas more or less took over Gaza and held those people hostage. Inaction by their people. They could have reacted and halted the extremism that grew under their noses. It’s no different here. We can remain in the shadows or we can start getting involved and at the very least be a speedbump to slow down the machine.
Many people condemn the dude that did the movie the sound of freedom and say how the media has now ruined him. Well, at least he did something. People condemn good people that get into politics and how they don’t do as they wish and on and on. Well at least they did something. Remaining in the shadows is not a winning strategy. And if people think there is gonna be some civil war (there wont) where the good guys come and save the day and in a few years everything is great and gravy, then think again. Rarely is what rises out of the ashes better than what preceded that.
I agree. We need to get loud as group. Found out today my county is looking for volunteers at the board of elections. Thats one way i can do my best to make sure they stay legit. I plan to call Tues and see what they are lookimg for.
Spend the energy speaking to people about the real world and not some political fantasy of making a difference with a vote. If enough people give the finger to the system and ignore their rules, mandates, laws, penalties, fines, permits, taxes, court orders, and most of all their disgraceful police while simultaneously defending one another if/when necessary, we win. There is no other way.
This can be done peacefully. If it turns out any other way, you can bet your ass the population acted in defense of the other side’s police violence. That would be on them. People are just so indoctrinated that this never has crossed their mind even though they are broken, broke, and fed up.
I agree with this also the problem is trying to get enough people to go along with it. I figure 5-10% would do it but how many people did you see without masks during covid? I live in a semi sane state and most of the time i was lucky to see one other person. Courage is contagious and i got a lot of thumbs up but still very few would go against it. We're( me included) are addicted to comfort and dont want confrontation. I talk to lots of people from lots of circles and its rare i get someone that isnt "in the know" of how corrupt and disgusting our officials are but they're all waiting for someone to save them i guess.
Russians don't think much of Biden. They did like Trump. And most people remember how they felt about Obama.
On that note ^
Spent an evening watching some of the round robin discussion shows on PBS. Coming up on the anniversary of the Russians invading Ukraine so that was the topic on the shows.
After turning off the TV and letting the dust settle, I came to a conclusion of where things will be later this year.
The "seed was planted" that Ukraine is running out of warm bodies to throw into the meat grinder. Russia has a good supply of warm bodies as well as a track record of throwing them into the grinder.
America will put boots on the ground in Ukraine.
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On that note ^
Spent an evening watching some of the round robin discussion shows on PBS. Coming up on the anniversary of the Russians invading Ukraine so that was the topic on the shows.
After turning off the TV and letting the dust settle, I came to a conclusion of where things will be later this year.
The "seed was planted" that Ukraine is running out of warm bodies to throw into the meat grinder. Russia has a good supply of warm bodies as well as a track record of throwing them into the grinder.
America will put boots on the ground in Ukraine.
Obvious it's going to be another number's game - 51% - 49% in Congress.
An evening of watching the Deep State sponsored programs and not one mention of closing the border.
A few mentions of Israel, but not much.
I think Mike Johnson will hold the line right up to not allowing the Government to shut down. Then the flood gates will open.
One side what's to throw America under the bus keeping borders open, support criminals and earn their paycheck from the Chinese.
The other side wants to throw America under the bus starting wwiii and earn their paycheck from the mic.
"Hold the line" is foreplay theatrics.
The other side wants to throw America under the bus starting wwiii and earn their paycheck from the mic.
"Hold the line" is foreplay theatrics.
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