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Ingenuity Powder System

Yes, I have two of the RCBS powder droppers and they like to choke on the big kernels and you have to force it to cut one of them or jiggle it back-and-forth every couple of throws which can cause the powder to settle and lead to overcharges if you are close to the target weight. This is the thing that brand Cole the maker of the Prometheus warns you not to do and I have always guessed that he made some modifications to the RCBS one that comes on the Prometheus so that it is better radiused to deal with large stick powders - but that is just a guess. I have likewise assumed that Adam McDonald tweaked the one on the V3 to avoid this problem.
 
I’m getting close to going that route also. But I figure I’m going to be stupid and expect it to actually start shipping by August. If not I’m definitely going to.
I feel like Charlie Brown kicking the football at this point. Here is my prediction, no shipping by end of July and then a post here from someone who emailed Paul who says end of August (which is how website could be interpreted now - as end of either month) and then nothing in August and the website two weeks into September changes to end of October/November. I hope I’m wrong.
 
I know this wait sucks but I can’t see that being a good idea. That thing looks slow, overpriced and just not that great. I’d buy a Lee or some other gross dropper and go ahead and get the ip trickler if I was waiting.

I’ll be surprised if the thrower drops this year
That’s what I did a few months back with the Lee. Wish I had my old V3 but it’s better than anything out there (other than this with v3) just a bit of a PIA pulling a lever and optimizing for different powders. I really want the full system though.
 
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I know this wait sucks but I can’t see that being a good idea. That thing looks slow, overpriced and just not that great. I’d buy a Lee or some other gross dropper and go ahead and get the ip trickler if I was waiting.

I’ll be surprised if the thrower drops this year
So far guys are saying it’s fast and cost $350 without the scale same price as waiting for the IP dropper
 
So far guys are saying it’s fast and cost $350 without the scale same price as waiting for the IP dropper
From one of my posts, "With 38.5 gr of RL-15, average dispensing time is 8.4 seconds". I don't know if this is fast or slow, or how it compares to other precise & fast automatic powder dispensers (except for the MatchMaster, which is slow), but it's ready for me after I seat a bullet, so it's fast enough and 'faster' would have no benefit.

And you get a free shot glass suitable for Whiskey.
 
From one of my posts, "With 38.5 gr of RL-15, average dispensing time is 8.4 seconds". I don't know if this is fast or slow, or how it compares to other precise & fast automatic powder dispensers (except for the MatchMaster, which is slow), but it's ready for me after I seat a bullet, so it's fast enough and 'faster' would have no benefit.

And you get a free shot glass suitable for Whiskey.
I take that. The shot glass and the time
 
Anyone got an update?
“The current estimate for the first preorders that started 12-19-23 through about the end of 02-2024 should start going out toward the end of July/Aug 2025. If you preordered after the end of February 2024 then you will be in the second batch of production scheduled to release late summer/fall 2025.”

Yeah, it’s moved out again and end of July is….well, now and that doesn’t seem to be happening.

Got more schedule slips than a government project.
 
“The current estimate for the first preorders that started 12-19-23 through about the end of 02-2024 should start going out toward the end of July/Aug 2025. If you preordered after the end of February 2024 then you will be in the second batch of production scheduled to release late summer/fall 2025.”

Yeah, it’s moved out again and end of July is….well, now and that doesn’t seem to be happening.

Got more schedule slips than a government project.
End of July/August so hopefully we are still on track 😐
 
End of July/August so hopefully we are still on track 😐
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“The current estimate for the first preorders that started 12-19-23 through about the end of 02-2024 should start going out toward the end of July/Aug 2025. If you preordered after the end of February 2024 then you will be in the second batch of production scheduled to release late summer/fall 2025.”

Yeah, it’s moved out again and end of July is….well, now and that doesn’t seem to be happening.

Got more schedule slips than a government project.
Is this better?
July/August
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Does emailing them take more than a few days to respond? I asked if they had the IPS v3 upgrade in stock. I don’t know if these upgrades are back logged as well. Or they’re in stock and ready to ship.
 
I’m curious as to what the delay is. Parts supplier? That’s my only guess. I’m sure he’s more frustrated than anybody. You figure he’s losing sales and has a known income flow stopped by whatever it is. Your grip is just that you don’t have the latest and greatest

I’ll be home in a couple. If it’s not released, I’ll need to go a different route as I’m without anything 🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not angry or frustrated like some here. If anything, like I said, his income is being affected.

Some of you though need to simmer down. Like watching a brat stomp his feet because mommy didn’t hand him his chicken nuggies fast enough

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I’m curious as to what the delay is. Parts supplier? That’s my only guess. I’m sure he’s more frustrated than anybody. You figure he’s losing sales and has a known income flow stopped by whatever it is. Your grip is just that you don’t have the latest and greatest

I’ll be home in a couple. If it’s not released, I’ll need to go a different route as I’m without anything 🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not angry or frustrated like some here. If anything, like I said, his income is being affected.

Some of you though need to simmer down. Like watching a brat stomp his feet because mommy didn’t hand him his chicken nuggies fast enough

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Most people talking like this are new to the wait. If you had been here two years (and 8 release deadlines) ago waiting you wouldn’t be talking like that
 
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Most people talking like this are new to the wait. If you had been here two years (and 8 release deadlines) ago waiting you wouldn’t be talking like that
I have been waiting that long. The difference is I'm not acting like a spoiled child wanting my chicken nuggies.

It's called acting like an adult and not a karen

The man has money on the line and you're complaining about a simple inconvenience because you don't have the new toy
 
Let's put this in perspective for some here that have never been involved with the design, development and production of anything from scratch, that is a high dollar item, & will be scrutinized in videos and written publications and forums.

If he releases it and it isn't 100% perfect and operable, his business & livelihood can be crushed.

All it takes is for one of you to post some hate thread before even giving a company a chance to make it right. Happens all the time.

Not only did he have to design it, have different versions, work out kinks in the raw, but now he needs to contract out the machining more than likely. Being as it is a small and specialized item, his order will not take priority in many shops. Now that shop will give him a sample to assemble and see if everything fits, They still need to go back and refine the cuts and play with tolerances.

Not only this, but think about all the separate components he needs to put this together from different vendors. The chip board, buttons for the keypad, belts, caps, screw, stocking enough filament for his printer. scales, the light, etc etc

Lets say only 100 people ordered it for the sake of easy math.
That's still 100k on a waiting list he has on the line, not to mention the money spent on development already and time (which is priceless).

If you can't wait. order something else. Like I said, if it's not done by October, I will have to because I sold my last dispenser before this trip. But I'll keep my name on the list

Believe me, your inconvenience is his stressful nightmare right now, especially with people emailing him and calling. I'm sure he isn't happy more than any of us
 
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