Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

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91Eunozs said:
And people always discount the deterrent value of a righteous death swiftly delivered to someone who truly earned it, but it’s a real thing.
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Yes, it's a real thing. I'm just not comfortable with it being so. The punishment should never be about "deterrence" or recidivism or other things. It should only be that "necessary and sufficient" measure of justice, for the crime committed. Still I accept the reality that is is a deterrant in most cases, but I think we're only talking about the "riff/raff." People who are Hell bent on killing are going to do so anyway, regardless of the penalty. History has taught us that. Consider the most recent terrorist/mass killers that blow away 10-15 victims and then take their own life before LE can stop/arrest them.

91Eunozs said:
Sadly, we’ll see the deterrent value of Charlie’s death too… I know a lot of folks, especially pundits, are saying this event has galvanized their resolve, but there’s 100 people for every one of them who are now gonna think twice before speaking their mind in public over the fear of not knowing if some lunatic is behind them just waiting for a reason to act out.
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The victory will come for Charlie when people like him are not afraid to speak out in public again.

91Eunozs said:
I’d like to think I’m in the camp of the former, but TBH, will be checking out everyone around me before I speak my mind.
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Oh Hell, I do that all the time now, when I consider posting something (or not) on the Hide! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Namekagon said:
I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I’d rather see life in prison. Partly becasue I don’t think death is as severe a punishment as a lifetime of incarceration, but also because I believe that it’s not our place to take a life without the immediate need for self defense.

I see it this way, if left alive in prison he has time to turn to Christ and be saved.
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No wrong, first some cannot be saved, ever.

So would you let a REFORMED "saved" pedophile baby sit your children?

Going to sleep at night knowing the exact date and time of your demise is a far worse punishment
than prison watching basketball on tv.
 
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I'm no great fan of Lindsey Graham but he nailed it here.

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A mourning widow living in a nightmare is telling you boldly what she is standing on.
The cross.
Her faith.
Jesus.
His promises
His peace
.
Let this be the moment you recognize that amongst all the noise, Charlie’s legacy is his FAITH.
Not politics
Not MAGA
Not Trump
Not Turning Point
.
He leaves this earth as a follower of Jesus and his wife is counting on that same faith to pull her family through this devastation.
.
If you haven’t called out to your Heavenly Father yet, consider this your sign.


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jMarine said:
This whole theory that he jumped off the building with a bolt action rifle in his pants, landed, knees full bent to where it looks like his ass touches the ground. And runs off to some nearby wooded area to ditch the supposed rifle they are claiming they found with a spent cartridge in the chamber. No fucking way he jumped from that building with THAT rifle in his pants and his legs bent the way they did when he landed. No fucking way. Make this shit make sense. Do they think we are fucking stupid
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Anyone who thinks the rifles in his pants jumping off the roof is retarded, it’s wrapped up and he’s carrying it
 
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Fx51LP308 said:
Yes, it a real thing. I'm just not comfortable with it being so. The punishment should never be about "deterrence" or recidivism or other things. It should only be that "necessary and sufficient" measure of justice, for the crime committed. Still I accept the reality that is is a deterrant in most cases, but I think we're only talking about the "riff/raff." People who are Hell bent on killing are going to do so anyway, regardless of the penalty. History has taught us that. Consider the most recent terrorist/mass killers that blow away 10-15 victims and then take their own life before LE can stop/arrest them.



The victory will come for Charlie when people like him are not afraid to speak out in public again.



Oh Hell, I do that all the time now, when I consider posting something (or not) on the Hide! :ROFLMAO:
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akmike47 said:
That sentence had zero to do with white heritage other than its Norse mythology, a guy named Patel isn’t pushing white heritage he’s saying Charlie was a warrior pretty much that guys fucking retarded.
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You would be the expert on retarded. Certainly an expert on mind reading and the definition of Warrior.

Charlie certainly was a Warrior for Christ.

Charlie used his words and debate, as effective as any sword.

You really need to get your medication adjusted.

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Fx51LP308 said:
Not in the PRNJ it isn't. They're trying to pass legislation that would require all homeschooling curricula to comply with all their woke/DEI standards, and they will require parents to be subject to "wellness visits" where they verify that the State standards are being followed. In that case, then what's the point of homeschooling? One may as well relocate to another state. 🤪
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Past time to go, dawg.
 
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Holliday said:
You would be the expert on retarded. Certainly an expert on mind reading and the definition of Warrior.

Charlie certainly was a Warrior for Christ.

Charlie used his words and debate, as effective as any sword.

You really need to get your medication adjusted.

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You’re saying what I did you moron 😆

“he’s saying Charlie was a warrior”- Me in the comment you replied to

That sure didn’t go how you imagined

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You keep doing this repeatedly because you’re obviously actually stupid lol 0/several so far
 
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Maggot said:
Yep, and Christ tought us forgiveness. Not weakness, he must be punished. Stronger than I.
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You can forgive and still punish. I believe that we are too tolerant as a society and many murderers do not deserve to share our earth. Murderers, child molesters, most rapists deserve to die for their crimes.
 
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if left alive in prison he has time to turn to Christ and be saved.
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Always loved the old Dennis Miller line... nobody ever finds Jesus on prom night. It's only after they've fucked up so bad nobody else will talk to them.

I'm not an atheist or anti religion, it's just my own beliefs (guesses) on the universe are a little more complicated than all this. I can't believe that you pop out of nowhere, you're here for what amounts to a split second, and if you're really good, or at least at the last moment you say you're sorry, you get to go to paradise forever.
If the lord is going to forgive him or accept him, send him to the next step or back to the very beginning, it isn't because he sat in a jail cell for 60 years first.
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
Don’t forget the Suppressor crowd, claiming they make the report completely quiet and all you hear is the shockwave/crack.

Fucking up is okay.

Owning your fuck up is where the learning happens.
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I did NOT say suppressors make the report completely quiet. I SAID that at 200 yds downrange you wouldn't HEAR it due to the loud supersonic crack. This I know from actual experience, not speculation. And that is exactly what the sound on the video sounded like TO ME. I'll go ahead and say I was wrong in this instance, but I'm still not fully convinced we're getting the whole story. My trust of the media and gov has been ruined by events like the LV machine gun dance, covid, etc. I'm done arguing the point now. Carry on.

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jmp1 said:
The schools are a huge problem for sure...what I'm seeing though is parents that dont do the work to undo it. A vegan in my house would get real hungry.....real fast. An 8 year old can't decide they're vegan anymore than change their sex. My house.....my rules. All 6 of my kids went through public school in Komifornia.....albeit very rural. If you stay in tune with your kids and their teachers.....parents can stop the b.s. Drop them off and hope for the best.....you'll end up with zombies. JMHO
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Your house, your rules, but...

It might be a good lesson in responsibility and consequence to let the kid try vegan, but...."Mom fixes a meal for ALL of us. Youre welcome to eat something else, but you buy it and you prepare it. You'll also need extra Dr's visits to ensure youre getting enough protien.";):ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::cool:

More than one way to win a battle.
 
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In the midst of all the anger Please focus on how very precious and important a "moment in time" really is. There is a video taken of the suspected shooter prone on the roof top before shots were taken. Similar to the Butler assassin. Only difference is the people in Butler started yelling, bringing attention to that person and in Utah they just kept recording. Imagine where we'd be if the spoke up when they saw something. The families that wouldn't be in complete ruins right now. As hard as it seems if you see something say something. Even if you are wrong who cares you may save some ones life. Please reinforce this with your kids.
 
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BadDogPSD said:
You can forgive and still punish. I believe that we are too tolerant as a society and many murderers do not deserve to share our earth. Murderers, child molesters, most rapists deserve to die for their crimes.
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Thats exactly what I said, punishment with the forgiveness. At a personal level, I feel life in prison is a worse punishment than death. If i were 20iish or so, the kids age, and had the sense to make a smart choice, Id take a quick death over 60 years in the big house, and I mean the real big house, not some country club, every time. Do you know what hapens to someone like him in GenPop. And, yeah, I'd be good with my taxes paying for that. 60 years looking a four walls and getting poked in the ass every night by Jumalious. Ouch, LOL
 
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Glowie said:
In the midst of all the anger Please focus on how very precious and important a "moment in time" really is. There is a video taken of the suspected shooter prone on the roof top before shots were taken. Similar to the Butler assassin. Only difference is the people in Butler started yelling, bringing attention to that person and in Utah they just kept recording. Imagine where we'd be if the spoke up when they saw something. The families that wouldn't be in complete ruins right now. As hard as it seems if you see something say something. Even if you are wrong who cares you may save some ones life. Please reinforce this with your kids.
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Best I could tell, the cameras that caught the fuzzy pictures of him on the roof were not focus on the roof specifically and were taking large views of the whole crowd and venue. They were only discovered upon review. I haven’t seen any credible eyewitness accounts of having noticed him before the shooting.

Not that your general message is wrong because it’s not.
 
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lash said:
Best I could tell, the cameras that caught the fuzzy pictures of him on the roof were not focus on the roof specifically and were taking large views of the whole crowd and venue. They were only discovered upon review. I haven’t seen any credible eyewitness accounts of having noticed him before the shooting.

Not that your general message is wrong because it’s not.
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A cellphone video was posted here multiple times, I even made a map showing the approximate location on the guy filming, the shooter, and Charlie from the video
 
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Nik H said:
That is what I thought as well...LMAO
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TheBigCountry said:
Huh

I’ve seen that rifle and reloading bench before

BigStick? Alaska? Lick windows much?
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Both correct. I thought the rifle looked familiar so googled Kimber Hunter but the new ones have some changes to the stock.

When I looked for older pictures of Kimber Hunter it was like 90% Big Stick LOL

I'm still 90% rifle used was a Kimber
Looks like I was right about stole daddy's hunting rifle.
 
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Makinchips208 said:
Who cares what the widow wants done with the perpetrator. Besides, she probably isnt even in a state of mind to be making massive decisions at the moment anyways. She needs to grieve.
Poor thing. So sad.


But, Justice must be administered justly, fairly, and swiftly. And keeping him alive just so he can hopefully repent someday is stupid. God is just and fair. God can decide his fate. Justice must be impartial.
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Justice needs to involve a bunch of real horny prisoners for a few years before they tie him to a post and shoot him in the neck. If he ain't a faggot now, he will be.
 
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MO Fugga said:
Justice needs to involve a bunch of real horny prisoners for a few years before they tie him to a post and shoot him in the neck. If he ain't a faggot now, he will be.
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Yeah calling for him to be raped is definitely better than people cheering Charlie was killed…

This is the type of shit I was talking about yesterday
 
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357Max said:
It's why I suck at golf. I'm just taking out frustration on the ball, if it hits a tree all the better :LOL:
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I casually and poorly played for twenty years with coworkers. The interesting thing about hitting a tree is the total variety of ways it can turn out. Stuck in tree, bounce straight back and land at your feet, bounce yardss further back from where you hit it, bounce into the fairway, drop at the very base with roots right under the surface, and once even hit just right with a topspin and bounced onto the green.

I don’t know where I was going with this…🧐
 
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