Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

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HogsLife said:
All our kids are being groomed.
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YES. I think big pharma poisoning them all aids to this... How can so many people be losing intelligence and just so dumb? Health it a huge thing. Im blown away driving by the middle school here in town, looks like a fat camp. Poor health leads to problems and big pharma has a pill for that. Pills lead to confusion, mental issues, depression, anxiety, developmental issues, allergies, retardation......etc.. Then you take these people who are more delicate, weak, and vulnerable and force these ideas upon them and take away all their discipline and personal accountability.... BAM!! You got a slave specie thats easy to manipulate and forever dependent on govt and pharma.
 
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Which is perfectly fine & he should, if he gets more kids interested in critical thinking for themselves. However, he is a different kind of messenger, not suitable to fulfill the role.

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Shapiro is undoubtedly a very intelligent person. His intelligence notwithstanding, he is almost totally incompatible with the characteristics needed to replace Charlie.

Number one, he comes across as very condescending. I tend to think that he doesn't intend it to be that way, but it's reality, never the less.

Number two, he comes across as having very little (not zero, but very little) compassion.

As I understand, the vast majority of "newcomers" to TPUSA are young people. They are there because they want Charlie and they want Charlie's personality. TPUSA have a very challenging task in front of them in trying to find his replacement that is as close to Charlie's personality as possible. Unfortunately, I think Shapiro would do a lot of damage, albeit unintentionally.
 
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Gunfighter14e2 said:
After 58 pages, I was wondering when someone would get close to thinking out of the box. Just spit balling, but what if the truth is really different from it seems here?
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I am a conspiracy theorist. This does not look like a big conspiracy to me at all. I think the people talking conspiracy here are trolls that want to derail the thread. Like that picture about a “sniper” that was a blurry shrub lol.
 
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HogsLife said:
Maybe but I don’t see it. She has two young kids to raise. Charlie wouldn’t want to pull her away from that. Nor would she. The kids would suffer. In effect they’d be losing both their dad and their mom. She is capable of it though.

I do think she will involved, heavily but not at the expense of her kids. 100% she will be the final say so on who she allows to step in for Charlie and represent what he built.
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Good points. I actually hope you are correct.
 
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Threadcutter308 said:
Good points. I actually hope you are correct.
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I believe God has a plan to use this. I don’t know what it is, we may not understand it, but he has one none the less. And His plans are always better than ours.

Charlie built this first and foremost with Jesus Christ as his foundation which in turn determined his stance on everything else including the way he treated his “enemies” (although I don’t think he saw them that way). And I’m sure his wife feels the same way. I do not for a second think she would put someone else In his place that felt
differently. I have faith the Lord is gonna take care of this and use it for good.
 
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Green461 said:
YES. I think big pharma poisoning them all aids to this... How can so many people be losing intelligence and just so dumb? Health it a huge thing. Im blown away driving by the middle school here in town, looks like a fat camp. Poor health leads to problems and big pharma has a pill for that. Pills lead to confusion, mental issues, depression, anxiety, developmental issues, allergies, retardation......etc.. Then you take these people who are more delicate, weak, and vulnerable and force these ideas upon them and take away all their discipline and personal accountability.... BAM!! You got a slave specie thats easy to manipulate and forever dependent on govt and pharma.
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A few years ago my son played middle school football, a lot of the kids were short and looked 200lbs plus. When I was growing up we had 1 big kid football player in MS, 6ft 3 and probably 230lbs.

The kids on my sons team( and others) could barely get down the field.

He quit football in HS to focus on wrestling, except for improving on cardio he’s in good shape. Just gets gassed in matches easily.
 
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BCP said:
I am a conspiracy theorist. This does not look like a big conspiracy to me at all. I think the people talking conspiracy here are trolls that want to derail the thread. Like that picture about a “sniper” that was a blurry shrub lol.
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Looks as if the kid did it, from the proposed location, and all the vids line up. The question I think is who organized it, did someone manipulate him? Was he on meds? Why was he messaging laughing about it being his doppelganger?
I know for a fact MK Ultra resulted in some crazy stuff. Ive snuck into a R&D testing place the DOD used and seen and experienced some kind of sensory manipulation first hand. So if someone wanted to pull something off it would be easy to take a weak vulnerable kid and frame him and manipulate his online presence, invoke anger into him, and then set him up.... there are billions and organizations that specialize in just this.
Could it be? Ya, but we'd never know... no one would. They are that good. Back in 97ish my friends cousin and partner designed the DMV program for the mexican DMV or whatever it was.. At my friends house out in the country we were all there he pulled out his laptop and said check this out.. satellite live video of a car driving down the road in front of the house we were at.... was crazy at the time. We always joked of things that could be done, like how easy it would be to take control of anyone PC and insert a folder full of kiddie porn.. Never did anything like that though, but recognized how easy it would be and how any person can be subjected to it. Every time i see someone in the news get arrested for kidde porn I laugh and wonder who they pissed off. Theres no way out of that.... they are F'd.

So to manipulate whatever this discord is, messages, online presence today, AI, and being almost 30 years after the stuff I seen... I'd imagine there isnt anything that isnt impossible. Piss the wrong person off... or just be an easy mark for a higher power.
Anything is possible, and any cover story can be manipulated and dished out and looks legit.
 
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Steven Crowder could realistically step in and fill Charlie’s role. They share a similar origin story, and Crowder’s sharp recall of data and debate skills (as seen in his Change My Mind series) are on par with Charlie’s—though he tends to be a bit more combative. In fact, Crowder essentially pioneered the very format Charlie used for his campus tours.

The challenge is that Crowder has no interest in putting himself in front of large crowds as a potential target—something he’s stated clearly in the past week. That’s also why he stopped doing the Change My Mind segments a couple of years ago, after repeated assaults from crowds.

The left has lost the battle of ideas and here we are.
 
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Snippet from today's CK broadcast and one of the most powerful statements I've heard from Vance to date.



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Green461 said:
Looks as if the kid did it, from the proposed location, and all the vids line up. The question I think is who organized it, did someone manipulate him? Was he on meds? Why was he messaging laughing about it being his doppelganger?
I know for a fact MK Ultra resulted in some crazy stuff. Ive snuck into a R&D testing place the DOD used and seen and experienced some kind of sensory manipulation first hand. So if someone wanted to pull something off it would be easy to take a weak vulnerable kid and frame him and manipulate his online presence, invoke anger into him, and then set him up.... there are billions and organizations that specialize in just this.
Could it be? Ya, but we'd never know... no one would. They are that good. Back in 97ish my friends cousin and partner designed the DMV program for the mexican DMV or whatever it was.. At my friends house out in the country we were all there he pulled out his laptop and said check this out.. satellite live video of a car driving down the road in front of the house we were at.... was crazy at the time. We always joked of things that could be done, like how easy it would be to take control of anyone PC and insert a folder full of kiddie porn.. Never did anything like that though, but recognized how easy it would be and how any person can be subjected to it. Every time i see someone in the news get arrested for kidde porn I laugh and wonder who they pissed off. Theres no way out of that.... they are F'd.

So to manipulate whatever this discord is, messages, online presence today, AI, and being almost 30 years after the stuff I seen... I'd imagine there isnt anything that isnt impossible. Piss the wrong person off... or just be an easy mark for a higher power.
Anything is possible, and any cover story can be manipulated and dished out and looks legit.
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Or, Occam's Razor, no one manipulated, coerced, tutored, threatened, or convinced him to do it. It was a gestalt of all of the shit he'd read, heard, videos he'd watched, things people he knew said, things people he idolized or followed said.

A lot of the "But what did that mean?!?!?!?!?!" can be attributed to dialect and slang in one's friend group. I'm 40 and the way me and some of my oldest buddies talk, no one would understand us because it's all just throwback references to situations, memes, and other shit. Zoomers are even worse with that now.

This guy was stewed in the pot of bullshit that is leftist thinking for the majority of his teens. That's it. And that's a lot more scary than some Wizard of Oz behind the curtains pulling strings to make this happen, because it means that there's millions of other people who think exactly the way this dude did, and who could do exactly what this dude did, for no reason other than they can.
 
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Imagine, if you will, swimming in Australia and seeing your friend eaten by a crocodile. It's tough to get upset at their nature. It's simply what they do.

The left and the Democrats as a whole, have demonized, the right, called them nazis and fascists, and we're surprised they did this? We can't be united with such beasts, until the party, as a whole, excises it's violent tendencies. Until the left acknowledges that Donald Trump isn't racist, the right aren't fascists, and that violence isn't the answer, this violence will only continue. I want to remind everyone, the left cheered when Charlie was shot. Charlie wasn't a politician. He has no political power. He's not a judge, not running for office, and wields no power. He simply handed out a microphone.
 
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Green461 said:
MK Ultra
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This

Successful programs don’t get shut down they just disappear


Remote control dogs. In the 60s. How much has all tech improved since then ?

www.newsweek.com

The CIA Made Six Remote Control Dogs in the '60s

After implanting electrodes in their brains, Project MKUltra scientists could make a dog run, turn and stop.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

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Probably like this and beyond :




Not even getting into deep fakes , masks , etc etc
 
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DemonicLemming said:
Or, Occam's Razor, no one manipulated, coerced, tutored, threatened, or convinced him to do it.
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Agreed... Its just that we know how honest and forthcoming our govt is. More things than not through out history were written how they wanted it to be, not how it actually was. This makes everything the govt says very questionable... like why now would they just be honest? Like the saying says.. what is the difference between truth and conspiracy? About 3 months now.
 
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HogsLife said:
Maybe but I don’t see it. She has two young kids to raise. Charlie wouldn’t want to pull her away from that. Nor would she. The kids would suffer. In effect they’d be losing both their dad and their mom. She is capable of it though.

I do think she will involved, heavily but not at the expense of her kids. 100% she will be the final say so on who she allows to step in for Charlie and represent what he built.
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Heard today she's pregnant with their third.
Green461 said:
YES. I think big pharma poisoning them all aids to this... How can so many people be losing intelligence and just so dumb? Health it a huge thing. Im blown away driving by the middle school here in town, looks like a fat camp. Poor health leads to problems and big pharma has a pill for that. Pills lead to confusion, mental issues, depression, anxiety, developmental issues, allergies, retardation......etc.. Then you take these people who are more delicate, weak, and vulnerable and force these ideas upon them and take away all their discipline and personal accountability.... BAM!! You got a slave specie thats easy to manipulate and forever dependent on govt and pharma.
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This is kind of far out there, but how far really? I'm not trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory thread, but I do belive big pharma is poisoning the public as a whole. To a degree, I think it may even have roots in mk ultra.
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Green461 said:
Agreed... Its just that we know how honest and forthcoming our govt is. More things than not through out history were written how they wanted it to be, not how it actually was. This makes everything the govt says very questionable... like why now would they just be honest? Like the saying says.. what is the difference between truth and conspiracy? About 3 months now.
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Oh, I don't expect any honesty out of the government, and anything they say - regardless of how topically sensible it is - makes me question it even more. But, looking at this situation, I just don't think there's anything here that makes me go, "He had help.", at least not in the "official/big-boy help" way.

Are people going to capitalize on the situation - on both sides - for whatever they can use it for? Yep. Will that make some of the slicker conspiracy theories seem more plausible? Yep. I still just think it was a fucked-up asshat little fucktard who convinced himself that the big kids at the table would give him a pat on the back for doing it.
 
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XP1K said:
This is kind of far out there, but how far really? I'm not trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory thread, but I do belive big pharma is poisoning the public as a whole. To a degree, I think it may even have roots in mk ultra.
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Its not really that far out there... you can tell if a person is unhealthy by just looking at them. Look at pictures from the beach in the 1950's then look at one from today. The FDA allows companies to basically test their own stuff and deem it safe. So many things we have here in the US are outlawed in other countries.
 
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XP1K said:
Heard today she's pregnant with their third.

This is kind of far out there, but how far really? I'm not trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory thread, but I do belive big pharma is poisoning the public as a whole. To a degree, I think it may even have roots in mk ultra.
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Nope, the body would be inhabited by demons. Huge difference. An empty vessel will find itself filled.
 
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BCP said:
I am a conspiracy theorist. This does not look like a big conspiracy to me at all. I think the people talking conspiracy here are trolls that want to derail the thread. Like that picture about a “sniper” that was a blurry shrub lol.
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A good investigator explores all facets & possibilities of all events, until they are run to ground. Not doing this is how the Truth about events stay hidden, and agendas are advanced. Never discount anything until,... You,... prove it false.
 
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BCP said:
I am a conspiracy theorist. This does not look like a big conspiracy to me at all. I think the people talking conspiracy here are trolls that want to derail the thread. Like that picture about a “sniper” that was a blurry shrub lol.
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Some trolls "for the LoLs" some with other intentions.

Watch the video @Samuel Whittemore posted earlier...while she doesn't quite hit it 100% , she does do a pretty decent job explaining IMO.
 
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The truth gets a lot of decent people fired and some killed these days .

The left hates choking on the truth which I feel is odd since they should be used to it choking on each other all the time.
 
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HogsLife said:
When’s the Manchurian Candidate theory coming? 🤣🤣
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2028

Gay, wears eye liner, took Peter Thiel's seed to start his VC fund, Yale education paid by CIA connection, cross-dresser, 6+ names and an Appalacian facade, 3 years in politics and already positioned to run the world. That's when the Manchurian candidate is coming.
 
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GreenGO Juan said:

Today

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A few weeks ago in the other side.

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It gets painted over daily. Sometimes hr by hr min by min.
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Let em keep on going. They’re digging their own graves.

I get the impression puppet master POS Soros types are funding this type of crap and trying to bait us into reacting with violence. If we do that, we lose big picture. Civil war is what they want.

If we don’t give it to him, and hold
Fast, the vast majority of the American public on both sides is gonna see just how evil the radical left really is. At this point they’re damaging themselves more than they are us. Let them continue being the ones that react out of pure emotion… rarely does anything good come from that.

Wishful thinking maybe… but I don’t think so.
 
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DemonicLemming said:
Or, Occam's Razor, no one manipulated, coerced, tutored, threatened, or convinced him to do it. It was a gestalt of all of the shit he'd read, heard, videos he'd watched, things people he knew said, things people he idolized or followed said.

A lot of the "But what did that mean?!?!?!?!?!" can be attributed to dialect and slang in one's friend group. I'm 40 and the way me and some of my oldest buddies talk, no one would understand us because it's all just throwback references to situations, memes, and other shit. Zoomers are even worse with that now.

This guy was stewed in the pot of bullshit that is leftist thinking for the majority of his teens. That's it. And that's a lot more scary than some Wizard of Oz behind the curtains pulling strings to make this happen, because it means that there's millions of other people who think exactly the way this dude did, and who could do exactly what this dude did, for no reason other than they can.
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This makes a lot more sense than the Jewish MKUltra mind control theory. Not as satisfying as a good conspiracy theory though. You'll be called a glownigger for thinking like that.
 
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DemonicLemming said:
Or, Occam's Razor, no one manipulated, coerced, tutored, threatened, or convinced him to do it. It was a gestalt of all of the shit he'd read, heard, videos he'd watched, things people he knew said, things people he idolized or followed said.

A lot of the "But what did that mean?!?!?!?!?!" can be attributed to dialect and slang in one's friend group. I'm 40 and the way me and some of my oldest buddies talk, no one would understand us because it's all just throwback references to situations, memes, and other shit. Zoomers are even worse with that now.

This guy was stewed in the pot of bullshit that is leftist thinking for the majority of his teens. That's it. And that's a lot more scary than some Wizard of Oz behind the curtains pulling strings to make this happen, because it means that there's millions of other people who think exactly the way this dude did, and who could do exactly what this dude did, for no reason other than they can.
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This 1000%. That’s why I say it’s not directly tied back to Zionist Israel. But in a way it is because that is the propaganda and type of action they support.

I don’t care if you think I’m insane.

They believe in their demonic death cult.

You don’t have to.
 
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impactaddict said:
Steven Crowder could realistically step in and fill Charlie’s role.
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Crowder doesn’t have the charisma that Charlie had. I’d say the difference is virtually night and day.

Crowder comes off as an overgrown frat boy.

Charlie had that “he’ll be President one day” look and way about him. That’s going to be hard to back-fill or rebrand.
 
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DemonicLemming said:
Oh, I don't expect any honesty out of the government, and anything they say - regardless of how topically sensible it is - makes me question it even more. But, looking at this situation, I just don't think there's anything here that makes me go, "He had help.", at least not in the "official/big-boy help" way.

Are people going to capitalize on the situation - on both sides - for whatever they can use it for? Yep. Will that make some of the slicker conspiracy theories seem more plausible? Yep. I still just think it was a fucked-up asshat little fucktard who convinced himself that the big kids at the table would give him a pat on the back for doing it.
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I definitely believe he had help. However, like you not the "official/big-boy help".

Anything from his boyfriends help, to online, to groups in person, or any combination thereof.

Including, but not limited to concealing his plans &/or improving his plans.

Such will take time to prove.
 
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