Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

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Yesterday I posted this

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Followed up to see if there were reports on how Mike was doing and saw his sister started a GiveSendGo campaign for him.

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#4,602
Jingoist said:
I didn't get the memo—is that too soon to be calling for bloodshed in the streets? Asking for a fed.
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And what's your solution to being murdered en masse by the left......let's hear it buddy.

Are you gonna work harder the next day after the next mass shooting, or if someone decides to drive a vehicle through a crowd of people.

I mean seriously. What's your answer to all this garbage.

I'll wait.....

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supercorndogs said:
According this, brownelles long and short of the mauser action. The shortest mauser action made was 8.125 inches long (very rare action made for the comercial market prior to WWII. A remington long action I just over 8.5". Most muaser actions are 8.5" or longer.
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The '98 pattern action will handle .30-06 pretty easily. Norway rebarreled a ton of Kar 98k's after WWII to .30-06. At worst it requires a slot cut on the back face of the front ring to feed from stripper clips. If you don't care about stripper clips it's not necessary.

Husqvarna, Parker Hale, FN, etc. took both Swedish and FN (Belgium) made '98 actions and made them into .30-06 and '06 derivative cartridge hunting rifles for decades.

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Never mind all the bubba jobs possible in the last 119 years. There are tens of millions of them out there. Possibly the single most produced/used bolt action pattern in history.
 
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ironpony52 said:
IMO right now there are two three possible outcomes

1) the bullet because of the downward angle hit the spine and went down into the chest
2) the bullet knicked a plate and went up into his head.
3) grassy knoll


If there was an exit wound would there not be a hole and blood on the white back drop ?? At least movement of the curtain ?
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FIFY
 
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Doc68 said:
Says the guy that's been here since last December........the irony......

The problem is we are targets and the government ain't gonna do anything about it.

Hell, we don't even protest against getting killed...... We just go back to work the next day with our tails between our legs and continue to pay our taxes....

250 some years ago, we would have killed a bunch of red coats. Now, we sit idle while we conservatives get murdered.

How many of us have been murdered this year now by the lefties? How many have been mowed down in the past few years by crazy liberals, or shot in schools, or shot in churches and left to bleed out.

But yes, let's keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome. That's the definition of insanity folks.

Doc
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No one is saying that violence is never justified, which is just another way of saying that nothing is worth fighting for and sacrificing your life for. Just judging by the number of veterans who have taken the oath, are in this community, and who shoot matches I'd say that's false on it's face.

What we are saying that the murder of Charlie Kirk is not the spark that lights the fuse. This is especially true because of his testimony, and his core belief that in a free exchange of ideas his ideas (our ideas) will win. His whole trajectory was to debate and talk and not resort to violence. Calling for a civil war because he was murdered is not just wrong. It dishonors his memory and his hopes for his brothers and sisters, and if you've ever watched him debate it is abundantly clear that he considered all Americans to be his brothers and sisters, and he wanted them to repent, not to die. His funeral was exactly what he was about, and his wife forgiving the assassin through anger and tears is the highest expression of the message of Jesus Christ, who was and is at the center of Charlie Kirk's world.

The left will get power again. Some of the Trump administration's court victories and policies may be turned against us and against the Republic, as cancel culture is somewhat being turned against the radical left. No one can see the future. There may be a time to fight with more than words, but it isn't now, and IMO this administration and the people in it are moving further away from that point and not towards it. That's why the inartful comments of Bondi and the FFC head were troubling to those on the right who are not the targets of it. We remember how the Obama/Biden Administrations attacked free speech, and we don't want to repeat their mistakes tit for tat. Never forget that the Biden administration proposed a real life Ministry of Truth with no sense of irony at all. It's like the entire left has never read any literature about totalitarianism or fascism at all as they hurl their insults and projections instead of looking in the mirror at what a real, totalitarian fascist looks like.

If your reality doesn't jibe with the shared one we all experience you are going to be violent, because only the insane will buy into it, and you are never going to go very far in a Republic. If your reality aligns with our shared one then talk and debate is the way to go, and our fight is at the ballot box and not in the streets like ANTIFA.
 
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Holliday said:
I like Erika and I am rooting for her BUT yet again we have placed another woman in power over men.

A woman that has small children that just lost their father. I can’t think of a family unit that needs their mother‘s full attention, more than this one.

This certainly isn’t a “traditional values” move.

I firmly believe women should not be in these roles.
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As a Christian this video resonates.

By some accounts Charlie was worth around 12 million. He certainly wasn’t poor. He certainly had money for life insurance.

Yet we pass the basket. I saw a GiveSendGo set up for his family asking folks for money. Tucker very publicly gave a million. Meanwhile the Amish rolled into SC’s disaster area to build homes.

As God’s warriors, we treat security like a joke.

We revel in a mother diverting her attention from her children very much in need.

The very beginning of the Bible, Adam learns the very hard way about letting a woman lead him…..but here we are.

 
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Holliday said:
As a Christian this video resonates.

By some accounts Charlie was worth around 12 million. He certainly wasn’t poor. He certainly had money for life insurance.

Yet we pass the basket. I saw a GiveSendGo set up for his family asking folks for money. Tucker very publicly gave a million. Meanwhile the Amish rolled into SC’s disaster area to build homes.

As God’s warriors, we treat security like a joke.

We revel in a mother diverting her attention from her children very much in need.

The very beginning of the Bible, Adam learns the very hard way about letting a woman lead him…..but here we are.

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ironpony52 said:
seen this thoughts ?????????
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That for sure ain’t no 30-06. If that caliber had been used for that particular shot it would be grotesque to say the least if the entry began at the back of the cranium. The cavitation alone would have caused far more dramatic results. And the exit would have been huge.

I’m not bringing up the 30-06 to get into a dick measuring contest, but to point out that this whole thing appears to be a web of lies and obfuscations. The question is why.
 
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Samuel Whittemore said:
Mmmm. Ok that's hard to refute
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Except I'm having a hard time figuring out the shooter placement.

Unless it's the grassy knoll to the left of the column but that doesn't look high enough to match the angle.

So was it Lincoln style? Somebody behind the curtain? There's a lot of concrete and glass behind that stage.

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They have the bullet, they have the angle, they can weigh the bullet for grains to determine type of bullet, and expansion.
Until this gets released, there's a lot of conjecture.
Whether it gets released, that's a different story.
Stranger stuff has happened, but I'm still skeptical about a 30-06 not producing an exit wound in someone's neck (passing through)..
 
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doubloon said:
Except I'm having a hard time figuring out the shooter placement.

Unless it's the grassy knoll to the left of the column but that doesn't look high enough to match the angle.

So was it Lincoln style? Somebody behind the curtain? There's a lot of concrete and glass behind that stage.

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I think "we"'ve come full circle and back to this angle.

For what it's worth, I did a search looking for 'charlie kirk shooter bush' and 'on building' and half a dozen queries, as I know they have been discussed ad nauseam. Black holed. Just saying. :)

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Doc68 said:
Says the guy that's been here since last December........the irony......

The problem is we are targets and the government ain't gonna do anything about it.

Hell, we don't even protest against getting killed...... We just go back to work the next day with our tails between our legs and continue to pay our taxes....

250 some years ago, we would have killed a bunch of red coats. Now, we sit idle while we conservatives get murdered.

How many of us have been murdered this year now by the lefties? How many have been mowed down in the past few years by crazy liberals, or shot in schools, or shot in churches and left to bleed out.

But yes, let's keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome. That's the definition of insanity folks.

Doc
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You kick it off. We'll be waiting.
 
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ironpony52 said:
seen this thoughts ?????????
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OK, I've only watched about half, but 3 things:

1, a bullet doesn't need 12-16" to expand, especially when it's 1st contact is bone.

2, how could anyone behind him see to make the shot? Thermal, maybe?

And 3, how have we not seen footage of the shooter? Anyone above and behind would have been in clear view of probably at least a thousand phone/cameras that were pointed in Charlie's direction.


Still, very interesting, to say the least.
 
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Jingoist said:
I think "we"'ve come full circle and back to this angle.

For what it's worth, I did a search looking for 'charlie kirk shooter bush' and 'on building' and half a dozen queries, as I know they have been discussed ad nauseam. Black holed. Just saying. :)

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OK, this answers 1 of my questions. 1st time I've seen it.
 
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doubloon said:
You think it was farther?
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I am not o wowing the distance.

The wow was you alluding to the AI explaination... that is quite the leap off the crazy tree, hitting every branch on the way down, especially when it was the Grandfathers rifle, dad was aware kid had it. I imagine they can confirm and likely will come up at some point.

Sooo, I am sure my reply is not going to keep people from trying to bend an anti gov narrative, seem to be the agenda of some posting here. Its so prevelent its as exhausting to me as the BLM or queer movement is.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle.

BTW, you never answered, where you drunk or in some other way intoxicated?
 
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Jingoist said:
I think "we"'ve come full circle and back to this angle.

For what it's worth, I did a search looking for 'charlie kirk shooter bush' and 'on building' and half a dozen queries, as I know they have been discussed ad nauseam. Black holed. Just saying. :)

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Thats a bush.

someone posted a more clear pic. It’s a bush. Not a sniper dressed like a bush.
 
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Ledzep said:
The '98 pattern action will handle .30-06 pretty easily. Norway rebarreled a ton of Kar 98k's after WWII to .30-06. At worst it requires a slot cut on the back face of the front ring to feed from stripper clips. If you don't care about stripper clips it's not necessary.

Husqvarna, Parker Hale, FN, etc. took both Swedish and FN (Belgium) made '98 actions and made them into .30-06 and '06 derivative cartridge hunting rifles for decades.

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Never mind all the bubba jobs possible in the last 119 years. There are tens of millions of them out there. Possibly the single most produced/used bolt action pattern in history.
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I was just pointing out all this "looks like a short action" is horse hoooey.
 
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Jingoist said:
Did they post a video of said bush during the event? I'd like to see it...still looking for the 'muzzle blast' video, but with Palantir sponsoring the event, I'm understandably struggling.
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The image below captures the bush.

I *think* the location circled by the guy in the "new evidence shot from behind" video corresponds to the stairwell and what looks like a some kind of window unit with a drain pipe in the picture below.

I see absolutely no space in that image for a shooter unless the guy with the Hello Kitty backpack.

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AllenOne1 said:
Jury pool? This case is never getting to trial. They will offer a plea bargain to this guy so he can avoid the death penalty, just like Kolberger.
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I dunno 'bout that. If the prosecutor is "elected" and not "appointed," he may very well need to seek the death penalty to meet public demand and ensure his re-election. I don't think it's a matter of whether or not he can get it or have a case for it. I'm sure he does and, given a fair jury, I"m sure he can get it (unless the defense has bought out 1-2 of the jurors). Unlike the case of Casey Anthony, for example... where I believe the prosecutor did not seek the death penalty for fear he couldn't get it.

What leverage would this prosecutor have in offering that kind of a plea deal? Is he that uncertain about his case?
 
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