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I don't think the op is really asking for advice or listening for that matter

Guys send him a pm :)

your the 3rd person i heard this from, i bet its part of their "new" hybrid lens design.

I have owned all 3 including the Zeiss RF. Still have the Zeiss. The HD-B's are nice and compact laser is WAY better than old Geovids. I didnt like the swaro's as much as zeiss or leica. The Zeiss are bigger, but the glass is AMAZING. The zeiss will range to about 1750, leica to 2200 but i...

This is strange as going by evidence it has to be the rifle.. Did you ask AI for a log of what exactly they tested ?

Just wanted to show off some work done by Charles "el gordo2" on my cz455. Wow is all i can say, i had a few different people do various rimfire knobs for me but this one takes the cake. Perfect all around with about a week turnaround time, send him a message on here.

Guys who are shooting comps all the time and burning out 6 and 65 are loving these....

In reality if i want to go out and shoot 3 calibers on the same day i take 3 rifles not 1 switch barrel. switching zero's confirming zeros and swapping barrels is still kind of a pain even with the new AI's. Very cool feature but i doubt many people will buy one do it all rifle.

Frank, can you confirm no tunneling on the beast ? When I tried one I noticed crazy good eye box even better than s&b, glass was awesome but I never checked for tunneling. My 2 atacrs do have tunneling on the low end. The beast and atacr were the only scopes after the s&b that gave me the wow...

yeah i know all about the match Frank. I agree lowest i had my 5-25 was 6 maybe 7 ever like i said, but i could see how a large city PD sniper would want a 3x or 5x, say making a shot on a full sized target at 40yards. Shooting on 5x is still very doable to 300y+

there are stages in matches that are like 25yards, your shooting offhand and such and want to find your target ASAP. supposed to mimic real-life. urban shooters (city PD's) will use down to 3x for sure. 95% of us tacticool folks wont even go down below 6 or 7.

thats what i figured as long as you pull real time uncorrected date from 4500 and manually enter it results same/same

Great thread guys, I have been using an iPad in waterproof case with regular 4500 for enviro data. I run ae ballistics on the pad and can get weather station data and also realtime data vs 4500 as I go off station pressure 90percent of the time. I am now thinking of trying a 4500 with ab, can...

I would go with a SPUHR also. I have 7 or 8 AI mounts and some have some quality issues, rings need to be de-burred or scopes wont fit/cause bad ringmarks as i recently found out. AI will deny any issues.

I am running atacr with 38moa can't on 338lm. Gives me 120 up with reticle

Yes great scopes, for the money probably as good as it gets in sfp

This is a great thread. Say some guy decides to get rid of a few raccoons in the backyard and shoots them with a 22 with a can. Can this make a difference between a minor infraction and a major felony ?

guys like phillip61 buy 'em and when it costs you $54.21 to make the damn thing you can afford to send out a few replacements to people who actually get out and shoot/break them.

A lot of people got several warranty replacement scopes that kept breaking over and over that's how you end up with 7 iors

That's what separates good from great, for most good will do just fine